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Shots Fired at Rayburn Office Building

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posted on May, 26 2006 @ 01:18 PM
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Its no longer the top story on some news websites...

must be over


[edit]

Apparently, according to the BBC, it could of been fireworks set off as a prank.

[edit on 26-5-2006 by infinite]




posted on May, 26 2006 @ 01:22 PM
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Originally posted by Communication_Monster
I saw FBI special Terrorist units arrive with all their gear. I doubt they would have been deployed unless the Capitol Police had turned up something they couldn't handle. There was also mention, and a brief glimpse of another Special Forces unit arriving on scene. The Rayburn building has been locked down for 3 hours now, if this isn't an actual incident of some kind, then it's a massive diversion from something, as other members have already pointed out. Other than that, I can't think of anything else except some kind of fear-mongering operation, maybe?

The FBI were there as they always are in cases like this. Everyone was in full gear, not just the FBI. There weren't any military Special Forces (at least none that I could see). I saw a police Special Operations vehicle though.
Diversion?
Well...if you know those buildings you'll know there's no need for that kind of diversion if something was being taken out or brought in.
Fear-mongering? Eh, I don't think so.... Who's scared? They've opened up just about everything around there.



posted on May, 26 2006 @ 01:22 PM
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Originally posted by infinite
Its no longer the top story on some news websites...

must be over


No, the Rayburn building is still on lockdown. We were promised a second press conference by the authorities in charge there @ 6:30, but there has been nothing yet. Looks like a blackout to me, they were shutting cameras off earlier. We were watching footage from a Camera, then it just scrambled and switched off as the reporters mentioned they could see something going on.



posted on May, 26 2006 @ 01:22 PM
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Ive been following the Jefferson case since the first news of the Raid and I know this story was going to be big right off the bat. The more it grows the more suspicious I have become. Now the same building was raided AGAIN, possibly by the FBI AGAIN?

Im really wondering whats going on right now...

[edit on 26-5-2006 by grimreaper797]



posted on May, 26 2006 @ 01:24 PM
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as my edited post said..

apparent firework prank



posted on May, 26 2006 @ 01:25 PM
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Yesterday Bush locks down documents seized by the FBI.

Today just before the memorial day weekend a major diversion in the Rayburn Office Building.

You have to know that if Bush got involved yesterday and both parties of congress are freaking
out about possible exposure of certain documents, this could be the perfect way to
access otherwise private areas of the building.

I'm sure the FBI and the DOJ are fuming over what happened over the last few days.

This 45 day cooling off period allows way too much time to destroy more evidence.

With a report of shots fired, who's going to stop a police officer?

I don't know, but maybe something in those seized documents told the FBI where to look next.



posted on May, 26 2006 @ 01:28 PM
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They're still looking for the gunman? Hmmm...Didnt they lose power not too long ago at the Capitol? Could this have been necessary to "finish the job"?




posted on May, 26 2006 @ 01:28 PM
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Originally posted by grimreaper797
www.mercurynews.com...


The possible connection to today's events is worthy of it's own thread IMO. This is definitely not a coincidence.

There must be some really damaging documents in there.

Peace



posted on May, 26 2006 @ 01:33 PM
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Originally posted by dgtempe


They're still looking for the gunman? Hmmm...Didnt they lose power not too long ago at the Capitol? Could this have been necessary to "finish the job"?



A power cut


the plot thickens



posted on May, 26 2006 @ 01:35 PM
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Have you watched the reaction of congress over this event (the jefferson raid), it was amazing. Democrats and republicans were allied in saying that the FBI was wrong and further more should immediately return the documents. That says a powerful statement.

Could there be a possible power struggle between the FBI and its power/congress and its power?



posted on May, 26 2006 @ 01:35 PM
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Originally posted by Regensturm
I've just been reading a thread on another site about this, and someone said the gunshots were the sounds of the death of democracy....

That's stuck with me for some some reason.


Oh boy! "The Death of Democracy"......... if you ask me, its been dead since 2000, but profound, nevertheless.



posted on May, 26 2006 @ 01:37 PM
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As a non-American can someone give me a quick sketch of what the jefferson documents are? and how important are they?



posted on May, 26 2006 @ 01:37 PM
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WOW! Somebody else watches Fox News besides me..lol

Almost any topic that Fox News has I can find here on ATS.


It seems that it was just a scare. I hope all is over soon for those people.
It must have been very scary.



posted on May, 26 2006 @ 01:38 PM
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With everyone heading out for a three day weekend, it would be difficult to gain access after hours.

Solution, perform another raid in plain sight.

They can not just remove any documents without a warrant, but they can find them and make records in order to justify a formal warrant.

Those implicated in the already seized documents are escorted to " safety " while the FBI/SWAT
and sympathetic law enforcement workers circumvent a huge cover-up.

Perhaps FINALLY a few good men who care about our country are doing what is necessary
to put these crooks behind bars.



posted on May, 26 2006 @ 01:45 PM
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Well the jefferson raid started with evidence that William Jefferson (D-LA.) took 100,000 in bribes. The evidence was him caught on video tape. That was enough to get a warrent, signed by a judge, to raid the offices. This was the first FBI raid of the congress offices in 217 years. Almost immediately the people in congress started flipping out about how unconstitutional it was.

Anyway the documents could mean little, or most likely provide a web of corruption because of the possible ties that could be found throughout the files. It could damage many careers and end of with alot of jail time if files start webbing to other cases and such. It short, a domino effect could occur. They start to catch one, leading to another and another and another.


Its definately worth looking into and its very suspicious with everything going on.

[edit on 26-5-2006 by grimreaper797]



posted on May, 26 2006 @ 01:48 PM
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Well Fox is about to report on another Press Conference. Also they say that there are some people being let out of the building.

Maybe it was the distraction for another raid, since there really hasn't been anything seen elsewise.



posted on May, 26 2006 @ 01:53 PM
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Originally posted by infinite
As a non-American can someone give me a quick sketch of what the jefferson documents are? and how important are they?

They're not important at all. Some small time congressman was caught taking bribes to promote business in Africa.
The FBI raided his office and found the money.
People are complaining because the FBI is part of the Executive Branch and the congressman is part of the Legislative Branch and though it's not in our constitution it's doing something like that is frowned on because it could be looked on as a form of imitation.
Unfortunately because people are still mad and debating that raid the documents and all the evidence they gathered has been sealed for now. Giving the congressman a free pass (for now).



posted on May, 26 2006 @ 02:01 PM
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Originally posted by ThatsJustWeird

Unfortunately because people are still mad and debating that raid the documents and all the evidence they gathered has been sealed for now. Giving the congressman a free pass (for now).


I beg to differ. It is very important what is going on with these documents and many heads are in danger of being on the chopping block in my opinion. However, I don't agree that this is a raid by the FBI today. They wouldn't be that stupid because the evidence they found today would not be held up in court as they would have obtained this evidence through fraudulent means and without a warrant. If they're looking to obtain evidence they wouldn't and couldn't legally do it this way.



posted on May, 26 2006 @ 02:04 PM
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Each time I ask why they raided Rep. William Jefferson office, I can only come up with the obvious. Scandal. But what was the next action motivated in government to raid the place? Did William Jefferson in some shape, way, or form threaten the structure of government? What has he been spending his time on in the past few years?

I feel there is more than meets the eye of evidence yet.


[edit on 5-26-06 by pacman]



posted on May, 26 2006 @ 02:05 PM
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Im not saying they are trying to use this evidence, remember they had it legally for 5 days, anythign in those files can still be claimed to have been aquired within the five days.

Because they had the 5 days to research the file, they really cant say what the FBI did and didnt know.



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