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Originally posted by zerotolerance
Are we living in a day that the Bible speaks of in 2 Timothy 3:1-5:
1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
Originally posted by Dock6
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I always feel sorry for people with tattoos. For some reason I've always associated tattoos with low self esteem.
Never met anyone who hasn't, at some point, admitted to regret about having tattoos, which again, makes me feel sorry for them.
Originally posted by sdp333
Well, if I could go back in time and tell my young, 19-year old self to put that 4th Jagermeister down and not to walk into that Tallahassee tatoo parlor where a small dolphin on my hip looked especially classy...I probably would.
Does this mean I should get used to the smell of sulphur now?
I think God will forgive me.......you only have to ask and mean it.
[edit on 24-5-2006 by sdp333]
Originally posted by laiguana
Even though I'm not a bible believer I also don't like the tattooing and piercing thing. I prefer the natural way. And again, why are you attacking only the most obvious bodily modifications, is botox, plastic surgery and other cosmetic modifications taken into account as well? think about it
Originally posted by wu kung
Are you kidding me?
Are you Freaking kidding me?
Listen churchie,
People are going to do what they're going to do.
To say that people get tattooed to be considered "non-conformist" is an extremely ignorant statment (by the way, your idiocy is showing).
To sit there and speak for everyone (throughout recorded history and beyond) who has ever been tattooed is as enlightened as me saying "I know what's best for everyone because I was a screw-up teenager who, now having changed my ways and found Jesus (who, might I add, was hiding behind the couch the whole time...) and I can quote the bible so I can proceed to elevate myself by diminishing others". When it's put like that, it doesn't sound so good, does it?
As far as the "end times" go, the world (our world) has been around a lot longer than we even know, and it'll be around long after us.
Human beings are not the be-all-end-all of creation.
Anyway, tattooing is a matter of personal expression.
We live (thankfully) in a place where we can (to a limited degree) allow our outside to reflect our inside.
If someone wants to enhance (in their own opinion) themselves, who the hell cares?
Most of my tattoos are easily covered up (and I usually keep them covered unless it's really hot outside) because I got them for no other reason than to please myself.
That doesn't make my connection to god any less valid than any of you bible-thumpers.
I used to have piercings too (however, I took them out because, in a combat situation, they become an easy target), which again, doesn't make me any less pious.
Not only can I believe that you started this ridiculous thread, but I actually wasted my time replying to your nonsense.
You might want to consider the fact that what you say about others, says a lot about yourself.
And that's whats up.
Originally posted by Knights
So if I understand correctly, I guess fashionable clothes can also be included in this? Infact and item of clothing you choose to wear should be, because in a way you are taking pride in your appearance and buying clothes to suit your own tastes?
Infact cleaning your teeth, doing your hair are all vain, people often do such things to attract the opposite sex, they are being vain and taking pride in their own appearance.
Originally posted by Gemwolf
Ladies (and gents) wear make-up, jewelry and designer outfits to "look pretty". Is it a sign of vanity or a bad self-esteem? No. You look good you feel good. It's interesting how people love to quote some passages out of Leviticus, and ignore some.
Originally posted by zerotolerance
Vanity, also called vainglory, is an inordinate desire to show off one’s own excellence to others. It is also love of praise. Vanity differs from pride. The proud person believes in his own excellence. The vain person wants others to believe that he is excellent.
Originally posted by Gemwolf
True, but does the need to look good make one automatically vain? You cannot deny that when you look good, you feel good. (And this has nothing to do with tattoos, does it? )
Is the huge trend in Tattooing and Body Piercing a sign of the End Times?
His Grace Bishop Youssef:
Tattooing was a ceremonial rite according to which people expressed their sorrow at funerals. The heathen did so to pacify the infernal deities they dreamt about, and to render them favorable to their deceased friend. God commanded that this must not be imitated by His people. His people, whom the God of Israel had set apart for Himself, were not to receive the image and superscription of these worthless deities, and were therefore not to make cuts or prints in their flesh. Such practices were signs of rebellion against God Himself.
During the era of persecution, the Coptic Christians were prevented from wearing crosses or declaring themselves Christians. As the persecution increased, Christians started to tattoo the cross on their skin as a sign that they would never denounce their Christianity. Henceforth the cross tattoo became a sign of holding on to the Christian faith. I think that in our time it is more important to tattoo the cross on our heart rather than our skin.
Originally posted by godservant
...Christ taught against such small matters. It is not so complicated as many wish to make it. Simply "Do to others as you would have others do to you." and "Love your neighbor as yourself"......
Originally posted by Dock6I always feel sorry for people with tattoos. For some reason I've always associated tattoos with low self esteem.
Never met anyone who hasn't, at some point, admitted to regret about having tattoos, which again, makes me feel sorry for them.