Two Steps Forward
first of all i disagree with Mr. Churchills statement. The original republic as constructed by the founders was indeed superior to the "Democratic"
government we now have. I have said it before i will say it again the republic is the best form. If democracy was the best form to come along why did
the ancient greeks despise it? why did the founding fathers of this country? because they understood that it detirorated into the tyranny of the
majority. If you have a big enough number of voters you can vote away the rights of others. thats not freedom, thats tyranny in sheeps clothing. and
now with the media blasting people with propaganda 24 hours a day 7 days a week guess who controls the majority? democracy is stupid.
...must...stop....talking about...civil war.....
aaah forget it
Farm machinery replacing labor was certainly not available in the 1850s
the cotton gin invented by a northern inventor made the cotton boom possible with his cotton gin invented in 1794. cotton would not have been
profitible otherwise and chattel slavery would have faded from existance much sooner without it.
but think about this:
From the book Empire of Debt
Abraham Lincoln is credited with having abolished slavery--at a cost of 618,000 American lives, 2 percent of the entire population. (An equivalent
death toll today would wipe out 5 million Americans) Everywhere else in the world slavery was abolished--at about the same time--with hardly a single
corpse. The great Emancipator might better be cursed than praised.
about slavery, guess i actully agree
with you that it changed nothing. it was just a new name on the same old crap. they werent slaves
anymore they were freemen. just like the wage slaves in the back of mcdonalds are free, just like your mexican landscapers are free. slavery still
exists today it always has and always will in one form or another.
Lincoln freed no one he did however get tons of young men killed to further his
imperial dreams. suspending habeas corpus. shutting down newspapers of people who disagreed with him and having them thrown in jail without trial.
yeah thats freedom. no wonder the south fought to be free from lincoln.
Nor is it true that the south's "whole economy" was threatened by emancipation. Rather, the personal economy of a small, wealthy, highly
privileged elite in the south was threatened
your understanding of economics is flawed. all economies are intertwined. since in chatel slavery, slaves were veiwed as property (i am not condoning
this, I am just saying the north was wrong to invade the south), imagine if every house in the united states was "emancipated from ownership"
tommarow. all of that cash investment would vaporize instantly. yeah the economy would just keep on chuggin along right?
WRONG. also note that Lincoln did not free the slaves in the north till after
the war was over, he only freed slaves in the south, which he
could not control anyway. He didnt want economic chaos.
Not only were they not fighting for that, most of the Confederate soldiers couldn't even have understood the concept.
The magnatude of ignorance this statement implies is shocking. tell us wiseone, were you there? did you interview the armies of the CSA? did you
conduct psychological test on each of these "dumb little bumpkins" to see if they possesed the capacity to understand why the southern nation was
fighting for independance?
because thats exactly as the southerners saw the war, as a fight for independance...think about what your saying. why is the revolution of 1776 a
revolution and the rebllion of the south a rebellion? rebellions are just failed revolutions.
but you support my own hypothesis.
The Confederate soldiers fought for the same thing Lee did: patriotism, which in those days was felt primarily for one's state, not the United
States as a nation.
that is exactly as it should have been, and exactly as it still should be. they were fighting for Decentralization
i can find you tons of historical letters from southerners fighting for southern independance. find me one saying was willing to give his life for a
rich mans slaves.
local government is easier to overthrow.
Tammeny hall dosn't exist anymore nor was it a legitamte government entity, it was a party organization.
The corrupt federal giant still takes his lions share from your every paycheck.
[edit on 27-5-2006 by TheRepublic]