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posted on May, 22 2006 @ 05:58 PM
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I was interested in the magic that the freemasons illuminatis ancient egyptian atlantians etc use, and if that magic is real and works.
I read a lot about those things and was woundering what is that pyramid thing and the eye do and what is it for.
I also read that the 1 dallar bill is some sort of magic on it.
I am interested in aquiring this magic and what is the name of it for helpful needs.




posted on May, 22 2006 @ 08:07 PM
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Why do they use pyramids everywhere why are they there for what do pyramids do.Theyre everywhere even in area 51.



posted on May, 22 2006 @ 11:16 PM
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How would you control the magic if someone showed you?

The pyramid is nothing more than a debate lol.



posted on May, 22 2006 @ 11:21 PM
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Originally posted by 32genroman
How would you control the magic if someone showed you?

The pyramid is nothing more than a debate lol.
What do you mean by control? use it In helpful ways such as whatever im interested in love, peace.



I know that the illuminatis masons etc use ancient egptian magic and the pyramids are everywhere even on other planets all over earth area 51 theyre used for real magic and works, it has to do with aliens because this one person I know who told me that and I read about it online.I can say even the u.s. government uses it on the u.s. capitol.

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posted on May, 22 2006 @ 11:51 PM
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You can look up ceremonial magick, or you can look up traditional witchcraft, not neo-pagan wicca, that so many teenage girls embrase. Intent is important and with the help of certain rituals symbols, incense, candles and too many things to list, you can get the universe to hear you.

I am convinced the reason we are in such a pickle today is because the elite know how to use magick for negative intent. We need to combat this with positive, loving magick.

Love and light, as above so below, LGM


P.S. Edit to add: Dr. Wayne Dwyer is a good place to start for the very basics in intent. Read also Manly P Hall's book "The secret teachings of the ages" To get right to the Magick, Ann Moura's books, start with "Green Magick" which is about earth magick hene the name. When I am on a scene, I use Magickal intent to help others in there ultimate time of need.

[edit on 22-5-2006 by LoneGunMan]



posted on May, 23 2006 @ 12:01 AM
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Originally posted by LoneGunMan
You can look up ceremonial magick, or you can look up traditional witchcraft, not neo-pagan wicca, that so many teenage girls embrase. Intent is important and with the help of certain rituals symbols, incense, candles and too many things to list, you can get the universe to hear you.

I am convinced the reason we are in such a pickle today is because the elite know how to use magick for negative intent. We need to combat this with positive, loving magick.

Love and light, as above so below, LGM


P.S. Edit to add: Dr. Wayne Dwyer is a good place to start for the very basics in intent. Read also Manly P Hall's book "The secret teachings of the ages" To get right to the Magick, Ann Moura's books, start with "Green Magick" which is about earth magick hene the name. When I am on a scene, I use Magickal intent to help others in there ultimate time of need.

[edit on 22-5-2006 by LoneGunMan]
I read about that stuff.They lie.

There is real magic and fake magic.

Im talking about the real one.



posted on May, 23 2006 @ 07:47 AM
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Originally posted by Hawaii_boy


There is real magic and fake magic.

Im talking about the real one.


I can think of no better introduction to Magick than the book "Modern Magick: Eleven Lessons In The High Magickal Arts" by Donald Michael Kraig. This book provides an excellent background in both theory and practice, and is written for the layman and beginner rather than the academic or advanced student (although these would probably benefit from it too).



posted on May, 23 2006 @ 10:41 AM
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Because they use ancient egyptian magic and beleive in sacrafice. Once they join the masonic tribe they worship satan or maybe thats isn't the real reason but they sell their soul to the devil after they die they all fall in an eternal death.

wow for someone that said this in a previous post hawaii_boy, its a surprise to me that now uve flipped a 180 and want to learn how to utilize pagan magic. given your stance from your previous post, i take it your christian. thats kind of contradictory to your faith's doctrine, regardless of your intent, to worship any other god, or practice any type of ritual or magick outside of your faith, which in a lot of cases would be required in any type of magick you undertake.

unless of course its kabbalistic magick, which is centered around the same god..but if u want to get into technicalities, it really isnt the same god....but thats a whole 'nother debate.

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posted on May, 23 2006 @ 10:50 AM
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Hey dude ! I don't know what it's called but I'm a witch and I use magic. I have a great teacher. I'll Ask



posted on May, 23 2006 @ 10:55 AM
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Ok just reading some of the other posts and the aliens have noting to do wih the pyramids. In case u didn't know the structure of the pyramids is perfect for absorbing powerful energy out of the earth and focusing and harnising it. The eye on top probably means wisdom so if u harnested the power of the pyramids u probably would have all the isdom of life. By the way theanswer to lifes greatest question is 47. interpret it as u like



posted on May, 23 2006 @ 10:57 AM
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gotta love hitchhiker's



posted on May, 23 2006 @ 11:57 AM
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Originally posted by Hawaii_boy

I read about that stuff.They lie.

There is real magic and fake magic.

Im talking about the real one.


Who are they? Manley P. Hall? Wayne Dwyer? you most not have read anything by either one. From your previous posts you must be a christian soldier arming yourself for war!

Manley Hall is a freemason that gathered a great amount of ancient philosophy that covers atlantis egypt and of course everything else you can think of in the way of magick, and can be very helpfull in understanding the world.

Wayne Dwyer is a self help author and has nothing to do with magick but has a lot to do with getting in touch with living in spirit. This needs to be learned before practicing magick or else you are just being another adolecent trying to be different.

Tell me what is real magick?



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posted on May, 23 2006 @ 05:47 PM
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Originally posted by yin_yang
Because they use ancient egyptian magic and beleive in sacrafice. Once they join the masonic tribe they worship satan or maybe thats isn't the real reason but they sell their soul to the devil after they die they all fall in an eternal death.

wow for someone that said this in a previous post hawaii_boy, its a surprise to me that now uve flipped a 180 and want to learn how to utilize pagan magic. given your stance from your previous post, i take it your christian. thats kind of contradictory to your faith's doctrine, regardless of your intent, to worship any other god, or practice any type of ritual or magick outside of your faith, which in a lot of cases would be required in any type of magick you undertake.

unless of course its kabbalistic magick, which is centered around the same god..but if u want to get into technicalities, it really isnt the same god....but thats a whole 'nother debate.

[edit on 23-5-2006 by yin_yang]
Im not christian, though I follow some other religeoins ,spirituality , etc im not religeoius.I don't know anything about the masons and those people that's just what I read of the internet.I don't even know about what they beleive in.

First off I am not interested in the free masons or anything like that. Im interested in the magic they use.

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posted on May, 23 2006 @ 05:58 PM
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Originally posted by LoneGunMan

Originally posted by Hawaii_boy

I read about that stuff.They lie.

There is real magic and fake magic.

Im talking about the real one.


Who are they? Manley P. Hall? Wayne Dwyer? you most not have read anything by either one. From your previous posts you must be a christian soldier arming yourself for war!

different.

Tell me what is real magick?



[edit on 23-5-2006 by LoneGunMan]
I am not releouse , though I beleive in demons afterlife heaven and other things like that. I am not going to war im peacefull , I don't beleive in war I beleive in peace or anything like that forget.

Real magic from how people fly ,how ufo's fly.That magic is from the aliens probably.

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posted on May, 23 2006 @ 09:14 PM
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Originally posted by Masonic Light

Originally posted by Hawaii_boy


There is real magic and fake magic.

Im talking about the real one.


I can think of no better introduction to Magick than the book "Modern Magick: Eleven Lessons In The High Magickal Arts" by Donald Michael Kraig. This book provides an excellent background in both theory and practice, and is written for the layman and beginner rather than the academic or advanced student (although these would probably benefit from it too).
Thanks.



posted on May, 23 2006 @ 10:00 PM
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Originally posted by Hawaii_boy

Real magic from how people fly ,how ufo's fly.That magic is from the aliens probably.


I get it now, I thought when you said real magic, you meant real magick. You mean technology, I am sure a lot of primative races think a helicopter is real magic.

Real magick has to do with changing the way we think, and how energy flows around us. I realize after your last few posts you are more than likely a 13-15 year old kid. Nothing wrong with that, but when you first asked the question, I thought you had reached an ag to where you were curious about the real magick of the universe.



posted on May, 23 2006 @ 10:11 PM
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Masonic Light have you ever praticed before? If yes have you had any results?


Originally posted by LoneGunMan

Originally posted by Hawaii_boy

Real magic from how people fly ,how ufo's fly.That magic is from the aliens probably.


I get it now, I thought when you said real magic, you meant real magick. You mean technology, I am sure a lot of primative races think a helicopter is real magic.





lol

[edit on 23-5-2006 by 32genroman]



posted on May, 24 2006 @ 07:53 AM
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Originally posted by 32genroman
Masonic Light have you ever praticed before? If yes have you had any results?




I am a long-time member of
Builders of the Adytum, a school of esoteric learning founded for the purpose of being the successor of the Alpha et Omega Temple of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn by Dr. Paul Foster Case and several other Adepts of the A+O.

I have experimented with different techniques, mainly utilizing traditional G.'.D.'. and Crowley, but prefer the B.'.O.'.T.'.A.'. techniques inasmuch as they are much more user-friendly in practice. All of these types of Magick produce more or less the same results, so I would recommend the individual to study aspects of each of them in order to decide for him/herself which path to pursue.

Disclaimer: the vast majority of students of the occult do not consider Magick to be "supernatural" in the vulgar sense. Magick is considered a scientific discipline in which the occult, or "hidden", forces of Nature are utilized through the power of the Will. Practitioners of Magick do not fly, so hawaii boy may be disappointed in this regard. However, Practitioners do eventually gain much insight into the nature of this strange Universe they find themselves in, and their roles within it.

[edit on 24-5-2006 by Masonic Light]



posted on May, 24 2006 @ 10:28 AM
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Ive been a watcher from afar of BOTA, always wanting to find out more info...but nothing ive found has been specific as to what its practices are....Do you have to attend an actual temple or anything, or is the research done on your own terms w/ them as a guide? You can U2U me if you wish about the info ...

thanks brother


Cug

posted on May, 24 2006 @ 10:47 AM
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Originally posted by yin_yang
Do you have to attend an actual temple or anything,


I don't believe so.


or is the research done on your own terms w/ them as a guide?


I wouldn't say "on your own terms" BOTA offers a rather extensive correspondence course. I think if you move quickly you will have it finished in 15-17 years. I have read the Tarot portion and it is one of the best guides to the Tarot there is.



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