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Should Scientists Assume all Protons, Electrons, and Neutrons are Identical???

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posted on May, 21 2006 @ 08:47 PM
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The H-Bomb is made from hydrogen (1 proton), and uranium (92 protons) and/or plutonium (94 protons). Why such a gap in protons? For a full complement of weapons, where are the helium (2 protons) or lithium (3 protons) weapons? Or beyond?



apc

posted on May, 21 2006 @ 10:26 PM
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Somewhere near the center of the sun because that's the only place where fusing those heavier atoms is easy.

It takes a fission reaction to trigger a fusion explosion, thus the need for uranium in a hydrogen bomb.

Here yah go:
How Nuclear Bombs Work



posted on May, 21 2006 @ 11:07 PM
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Where are the helium and/or lithium bombs to eliminate all the fission (uranium and/or plutonium only) bombs all together? Keep in mind the helium and/or lithium bombs might require uranium and/or plutonium.


apc

posted on May, 21 2006 @ 11:20 PM
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If you can find a way to make fusing helium atoms possibile here on Earth you stand to make a lot of money. There is much enthusiasm for developing helium-3 fusion technology, but it seems we are a ways off.

Lithium has already been used in fusion bombs.

As of yet you can not completely eliminate the fission reaction from the process. Fusion takes great heat and pressure, which is provided by fission.

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sorry, didn't acknowledge the fission-only part. fission bombs are relatively simpler than fusion devices. I am not aware of any fission-only bombs in our arsenal, but my awareness doesn't say much I suppose.

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posted on May, 23 2006 @ 02:59 AM
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This question can easily be answered by going to howstuffworks.com and typing in nuclear bomb.

Fission reactions split heavey radioactive material into smaller atoms that are still radio active + energy, this is why we get waste.

With fusion you force 2 small atoms together to create a larger one, this method produces huge amounts of energy and no waste, ideal? yes, but to create the amount off energy needed to force the atoms to fuse at present requires a fission nuclear reaction, hence u still get waste. a fusion bomb is detonated by a fission bomb. simple really.

Not sure if that is what u were looking for as i did not really understand what you were asking.



posted on May, 24 2006 @ 01:08 AM
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Im afraid your confusing things

Fission(bomb energy) big atoms uranium and plutonium are split in about half resulting in a mass loss comparable to E=MC^2

Fusion(sun energy) takes isotopes of mostly hydrogen and helium and fuses them together creating much more energy then fission.

A proton has a reference mass of 1 with a 1+ charge

A electron’s mass is so small that in most chemical reaction you consider 0 while having a charge of 1-

A neutron is very very close in mass to a proton but it has no charge

In nuclear reaction electrons(and many other strange things) can come out of the nucleolus go figure that one

Ok chem. Class is over

Fusion is simple enough implode a dense metal and boom nuclear reaction. When you get a big enough explosion fusion happen on a small scale AKA H-bombs. So you build a big enough bomb put some light materials in there and poof non-sustainable fusion. Then you have fission-fusion-fission bombs that do all 3 in a chain. I’m not sure of fussing Li I think all we can fuse is H and He anything beyond that requires massive energy to go in to the system. Same way that even the largest sun can only fuse things up to iron beyond that it takes a supernova to create the other elements.

Subatomic particles are NOTHING alike. Take electrons there are several kinds depending on there spin and actual properties high-spin and low-spin there are just so many different things that are not common knowledge.

Sustainable fusion while very close is still sci-fiction, the fact is we don’t know how to sustain it on earth. We have made fusion reactors that have made a bit more power then they need to start fusion. So where getting close YAY!

But a simple answer is NO there not the same! And for beyond…we don’t have the tech right now.



posted on May, 27 2006 @ 01:19 PM
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All the bomb-construction issues aside, and to finally provide an answer to the question you posed in the thread title you composed....

YES!

Harte



posted on May, 27 2006 @ 03:54 PM
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With the bomb issues aside the answer is NO.

To say that protons and neutrons are identical would be like saying black and white or good and evil are also identical. They both counter out eachother and have two completely different functions.

Protons and neutrons may LOOK very identical but they are with out a doubt not.



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