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posted on May, 16 2006 @ 02:09 AM
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Like a lot of people I always keep an eye on flight77.info
The guy has been doing what most people should do (rather than keep watching Loose Change all day until it's imprinted into their memory as some sort of fact) and been requesting the missing information through FOIA act over the years. Up until now the excuse has been it was being withheld as evidence for the Moussaoui trial, though now that is over the excuse is gone.
When I checked a weeks or so ago he had archived the original pages and had a new one, with a letter from a judge ordering the Government to release the evidence or provide an excuse for not doing so with a deadline fo later this month..

Today when I checked all the page says is:

"final drum roll..."

Hopefully (especially as it's a couple of weeks from the deadline and it would seem unusual to leave a blank page for a couple of weeks) this is an indication that some news is imminent and hopefully it will be positive.

If all the guys that spend their time preaching about certain people's products and lining their pockets did this sort of thing we'd find a lot of the 'concealed' evidence is there for the taking if we ask for it. People seem to keep going on that they have to defend their rights, but I really think a lot of people don't even know what they are.

[edit on 16-5-2006 by AgentSmith]

[edit on 16-5-2006 by ADVISOR]




posted on May, 16 2006 @ 02:57 AM
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Good thread, AgentSmith! I had never really been to flight77.info until now, wow ... "final drum roll..." Hopefully, the statement refers to a positive update ... I'll keep my fingers crossed,


Hopefully we'll get those videos out! Then we can examine and come to our own conclusions.

Farewell



posted on May, 16 2006 @ 08:39 AM
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UPDATE!

It has just been updated to this:


update may 16

big news coming soon


Hopefully it will be 'good' big news!



posted on May, 16 2006 @ 08:45 AM
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It's been almost 5 years after the event. Would they ever release any video unless it corroborated their story? Of course not. That's a long time to sit on the video --- irrespective of their rationale for doing so. A lot could have been accomplished in that time. They certainly have the resources.



posted on May, 16 2006 @ 08:58 AM
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Obviously, though the argument relating to it being evidence is actually a valid one, so equally it's not like they don't have a good excuse. Let's face it, the same people who would call it fake now would have called it fake then, some people will never be convinced regardless of what you show them.
Even your comment subtly implies that you have already made up your mind and would not believe anything that contradicts it.
It seems a lot of people don't want to be convinced of anything other than their thories (or the film maker theories anyway), it's practically their dying wish that all the conspiracies be proven true at any cost. I can't quite come to grips with that way of thinking, but each to their own...
I see a conspiracy theory proven as an interesting but sad reality, not something to rejoice about.

Here is a cache of the latest letter in question, the response to which is hopefully the 'big news'.

Google Cache

[edit on 16-5-2006 by AgentSmith]



posted on May, 16 2006 @ 09:11 AM
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this shoud be interesting... im keeping my fingers crossed!!.
But at the same time im not holding my breath either. I mean .. look at the JFK conspiracy 40 years and running...lets hope that the 911 conspiracy doesnt drag out that long!!... good post, cant wait for the release.

WAy to keep on top of it agentsmith.



posted on May, 16 2006 @ 10:30 AM
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I understand AgentSmith. And I paused before responding because it was clear that soomer or later someone would raise the possibilities of tampering with the 'evidence' and that would be seen as being 'conspirists forever'.

Yes, there was some call to hold it as evidence against Moussaoui... I guess. Do I have my mind made-up? No. But many of the commonly debated inconsistencies carry alot of vailidity and for me, since the morning it happened, 9/11 has just not 'felt' right to me. I would like to see a film that explains how a 757 dissolved into that hole and basically vaporized without shedding a significant amount of debris onto that lawn. I truly would. I would be utterly amazed.

But again, there is absolutely no way under any circumstances that anything but video that supports the official story would ever be released.



posted on May, 16 2006 @ 11:19 AM
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Woohoo!

Now all attention can be focused on the much bigger issue regarding the Pentagon. Cheney was monitoring flight 77 in real time. The obvious cover-up by the 9/11 Commission regarding the official timeline.

youtube.com...



posted on May, 16 2006 @ 11:51 AM
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JudicialWatch says they will have by 1:00pm EDT.

Was just watching CNN and they had a story on about the release to JudicialWatch, as well. Should be interesting, to see what they actually release after 5 years.

[edit: to add]
From their website:

A copy of the video will be made available on Judicial Watch’s Internet site, www.judicialwatch.org.




[edit on 5/16/2006 by 12m8keall2c]



posted on May, 16 2006 @ 11:56 AM
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Originally posted by AgentSmith
Like a lot of people I always keep an eye on flight77.info
The guy has been doing what most people should do (rather than keep watching Loose Change all day until it's imprinted into their memory as some sort of fact) and been requesting the missing information through FOIA act over the years.


Leave it to you to make sure and include an unsolicited, unrelated, and exaggerated blanket insult for absolutely no reason.


For the life of me I can't understand why they would make a person as unneccessarily antagonistic as yourself a moderator here. You really bring the caliber of this website down.

Scott Bingham from flight77.info is also quite immature with profane attacks of the Scholars & Loose Change crew....and if you hotlink a pic from his site he'll replace it with graphic gay pornography.......but I applaud his efforts to get this video.

Too bad for him they are pre-empting his "scoop" and broadcasting for the world in a few minutes!


2 points though......


1) They have had almost 5 years to fake it and the Moussaui trial was clearly nothing but a stall tactic since it wasn't even used.

2) Even if it shows a clear 757 and it wasn't faked (yeah right)......IT PROVES NOTHING WHATSOEVER IN REGARDS TO WHETHER OR NOT 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB.



posted on May, 16 2006 @ 12:13 PM
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From the Judicial Watch website:



“We fought hard to obtain this video because we felt that it was very important to complete the public record with respect to the terrorist attacks of September 11,” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. “Finally, we hope that this video will put to rest the conspiracy theories involving American Airlines Flight 77. As always, our prayers remain with all those who suffered as a result of those murderous attacks.”


Judicial Watch stands for fighting government and judicial corruption, how can they promote a return to morality when they have pre-emptively declaired 9/11 a terrorist attack by radicals without even seeing the video? I mean feasilbly speaking, they might be obtaining video of a military drone flying into the pentagon. Something is fishy here. Judicial Watch has a clear motive here to obtaining this video to discredit conspiracy theories, while making no attempt at combating even the slightest chance of government corruption.

What gives?

So Judicial Watch now stands for discrediting wild conspiracy theories and tinfoil hat wearing mofos??

What about the government corruption part?



posted on May, 16 2006 @ 12:19 PM
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New update at: www.flight77.info...



update may 16

today, the pentagon is releasing the video of flight 77 impacting the pentagon.

i'll post the video here as soon as i have it and can convert it for the web.



posted on May, 16 2006 @ 12:24 PM
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Originally posted by syntaxer






So Judicial Watch now stands for discrediting wild conspiracy theories and tinfoil hat wearing mofos??

Is a mofo someone who works for Mufon?



posted on May, 16 2006 @ 12:32 PM
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I love that people are debating the video before hand.

The video is more evidence and nothing more. For some on the fence it may tip things a certain way. For those strongly in one camp it will only support or refute their stance, but probably not change it.

I will not dismiss evidence from that supports the official story any more than I'll dismiss evidence against it.

Without the video, anyone arguing it's authenticity does not work by reason, but by predefined belief. It may be fake, it may be authentic, but without ANY examination it is neither.

The only things I dismiss are those people that will make a claim without reason or evidence. The 9-11 commission DID provide reason and evidence to support their claim JUST AS MUCH as conspiracy theorist have done the same. Both are valid theories with backing. Both have questionable evidence and reasons. Both have shown some of their ranks are working under agendas.

This video will just be more evidence both side will try to claim.

But in the end, attempting to discredit evidence is a defensive move and of little use to proving a claim.

Ironically, both camps are pretty equal in ratio of illogical loons to logical people with valid arguments.

For those that still haven't figured it out, the only way this video will change things is if it shows something other than a 757. And it probably won't.

If the video may falsify one side or the other. But if it goes in favor of the government, then many will attack the validity WITHOUT evidence to question it. This habit of the conspiracy community is why many people



posted on May, 16 2006 @ 12:39 PM
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Here is a post of a discussion from the other thread about this subject that was just closed. I thought I should add it into here;


Originally posted by Code_Burger


Originally posted by stealthyone

The images, recorded by a Pentagon security camera, were to be released in response to a Freedom of Information Act request by Judicial Watch, a public interest group. The video had previously been leaked and publicly circulated, but this is the first time the government will have officially released the imagery.




Good find! If that turns out to be true the Judicial watch presidents statement "“Finally, we hope that this video will put to rest the conspiracy theories involving American Airlines Flight 77” is hilarious. Are any other sources confirming this is the same video that was already leaked?



posted on May, 16 2006 @ 12:40 PM
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i don't know about you all peaceful hopefullists....
but this "new" news is in my face.
they are on us and ATS.
the realists won't think a second thought about this video...
...while we never had a first though- just the truth thought.

[Mod Edit: T&C's 1b.) Profanity: You will not use profanity in our forums. - Jak]


[edit on 17/5/06 by JAK]



posted on May, 16 2006 @ 12:40 PM
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Lets hope those scallywags dont just send in an animated GIF of the 5 frames, that would be a big waste of time. Can't we see from the confiscation and withholding of major evidence as an obvious reason for some kind of conspiracy? There were somewhere (cant remember exact numbers) around 75 cameras (or way more) that caught the "plane" hit the pentagon, why this evidence is still under lock and key, its anyone's guess. Can't wait to see what comes out today!


Then again, they could do just about anything in 5 years with the right efx studio, we will have to have a crack team debunking the video for any editing etc.


Bring forth the truth, and deny ignorance


-Ayahuasca



posted on May, 16 2006 @ 12:41 PM
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www.judicialwatch.org... must be getting pounded

I can't get the site to come up for anything



posted on May, 16 2006 @ 12:42 PM
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What are you talking about?

Nobody has "debated" the video.

Why are you debating a debate that never happened?

You just acknowledged the only thing that has been said.......that it could have been faked.

Looking at the video isn't going to change this possibility that even you just acknowledged.

They should have just used this....






posted on May, 16 2006 @ 12:42 PM
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Originally posted by Code_Burger
Here is a post of a discussion from the other thread about this subject that was just closed. I thought I should add it into here;


Originally posted by Code_Burger


Originally posted by stealthyone

The images, recorded by a Pentagon security camera, were to be released in response to a Freedom of Information Act request by Judicial Watch, a public interest group. The video had previously been leaked and publicly circulated, but this is the first time the government will have officially released the imagery.




Good find! If that turns out to be true the Judicial watch presidents statement "“Finally, we hope that this video will put to rest the conspiracy theories involving American Airlines Flight 77” is hilarious. Are any other sources confirming this is the same video that was already leaked?


PS3 is having me think anything can be leaked if you distort it's colours to low quality FMV





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