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Originally posted by Mouth
I think we see eye to eye on this subject, S4G.
The more I read stuff that you (and a select few others) write, the more inclined I am to do more reading and research.
Originally posted by Enkidu
So depending on if you think this hypothetical "Jesus" was a Gnostic or not
Originally posted by Enkidu
But then, the Jesus story is so patchwork, full of holes and confusing that it's practically useless to reach a clear conclusion about it.
Originally posted by FallenFromTheTree
The full of holes comment relates to so much that is missing about his life.
Originally posted by FallenFromTheTree
We have been told the parts that matter to the original orthodox church.
What about so many things that were destroyed in the Alexandria Library.
Originally posted by FallenFromTheTree
Getting back to the original subject, why would it matter if Jesus was married?
One, the founder of the new orthodox church believed in celibacy for reasons I won't go into.
Originally posted by FallenFromTheTree
The church had been denouncing the Emperors for claiming that they as humans, considered
themselves Gods.
Originally posted by FallenFromTheTree
How then could it be that Rabbi Jesus as a mere human could be divine, not an easy concept
to promote in those days.
Originally posted by FallenFromTheTree
Above all this was the discrimination against women on any intellectual level.
Originally posted by FallenFromTheTree
Leadership was a guy thing and to some still today not much has changed.
Originally posted by FallenFromTheTree
Being human and married would mean that Jesus was merely a profit.
Originally posted by FallenFromTheTree
Having children would have definitely complicated the church's explaination of
how things were or how we should accept them to be.
Mary and her children and their children's children would always be in great danger.
Originally posted by FallenFromTheTree
But as we have seen with all this recent contoversy, it is the possibility of Mary's marriage to Jesus
and the possibility of children that would have made people question the truth of what they
have been told by the church and therefore question the bible's accuracy.
Originally posted by FallenFromTheTree
Even with all this, it does not affect the message that Jesus was trying to teach us.
It does not affect our faith in God.
It only makes us question the accuracy of what the church has been teaching.
The rules, the regulations, the restrictions on women, the pomp and circumstance
of denominational rituals, the opinions and multitude of different interpretations of the texts, the wealth and power of organised religion, all these factors are works of men.
Originally posted by toolman
A Bible Following church....exactly what is that?
Originally posted by toolman
And do the people planning War, killing untold tens of thousands, do they attend a Bible Following church as well..?
Originally posted by toolman
Church means nothing, what you DO, that is the Test.
Christ was a Man...and he was a Teenager, and he was a child, and he was a Baby...and he needed to have his diapers changed, and he had adolescent issues, and he had relations....this does not reduce him, nor affect what he taught. God made us in his image, man and woman.
Christ is God,and he was a Man. To think he did not look at a Woman, or enjoy her company, or desire her as any man does....this is as ridiculous as thinking he did not need his diapers changed.
Originally posted by toolman
Salvation does not come to those blindly accepting what they are taught in Church.
Originally posted by toolman
Christ is God,and he was a Man. To think he did not look at a Woman,
or enjoy her company, or desire her as any man does....this is as
ridiculous as thinking he did not need his diapers changed.
Originally posted by Mouth
Show me something that is written by Jesus Himself, and is authentic,
that he did not have a spouse, and I will believe what you claim.