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reply posted on 4-12-2006 @ 09:41 AM by interestedalways


To me, or to my stomach, the video almost seems more like a disinformation tactic. It is sooooooo large as to be unbelievable. I am unclear of the surroundings in which this was performed, but it would seem likely to have it done in a setting that would be used to further the investigation of this phenomena.

The links to the ADHD, Fibermyalgia, Autism, etc really lead me towards the stealth viruses that have been low key, yet troublesome for a couple of decades now.



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reply posted on 4-12-2006 @ 12:05 PM by Nemithesis



Originally posted by interestedalways
To me, or to my stomach, the video almost seems more like a disinformation tactic.


What video?
Link?



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reply posted on 4-12-2006 @ 03:32 PM by interestedalways


Here is link. It is so gross.

www.medicinefilms.com...



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reply posted on 4-12-2006 @ 04:41 PM by Nemithesis


Interesting videos.
Again, a very limited perspective in the videos and nothing much more than "you can't believe how much this sucks" in the dialog on the blog.

I want to see an entire perspective of a case of this mystery disease. If it's on an arm, I want to see shots of the arm attached to the person, the top, the bottom, the other arm, then get to the close ups under good lighting. Remove the object and place it on a white sheet of paper. Place it in a shallow dish and pour some bleach on it to see if it reacts or moves at all. Put a light under the object and add some various dyes to it to see if we can determine more detail.

This is not rocket science to an investigation here. If we are to see what this is, we need to SEE what this is... full scale, in real life, on a real person. It doesn't have to be video either, a series of high res images in a definable sequence will do. Show the surrounding living area, any suspected places of contamination and local waters and vegitation.

We need more than the 'shock factor' if anyone is really serious about figuring this out and getting help for it.



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reply posted on 10-12-2006 @ 08:13 PM by southcity


I do not think that particular video posted above is the one that has been discussed. a compilation of the observations of the isolated organism causing this illness can be found at www.crossinglines.net as well as www.silentsuperbug.com.



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reply posted on 13-12-2006 @ 12:12 PM by Nemithesis


Those are some tripped out videos, I should have brought some acid with me to really get the full effect!

Just kidding.

My lunch hour research for today has led me to yet another conclusion:

I'm now thinking these poor folks have advanced Chagas' disease and are not getting treated for it. Although according to this site the advanced stages of this disease has no real treatment aside from managing the symptoms.
Just because this disease has an old name doesn't make it any less miserable than Morgellons from what I've seen so far.
On the crossinglines.net site, the victim stated on October 2005: "I acquired this while staying in a hotel in South San Francisco. Extended hotel visits were a weekly event for me. While staying there I was severely attacked and bitten by bed bugs and that's when the nightmare with this began. This was around January of 2002."
This map of Chagas' disease areas put him pretty close to the vector...
image source: http://microbewiki.kenyon.edu/images/1/1e/Tc2.jpg


Side Note: Global warming may be moving the vector of this disease more north I fear.

The combination of Blue-green algae/bacteria (Cyanobacteria) with Trypanosoma cruzi (the bug that causes Chagas' disease) might be a bit of a streach, but I'm not going to rule it out. I will look into the feasibility of that on tomorrows lunch hour.



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reply posted on 13-12-2006 @ 12:59 PM by AnabolicXRyu


Supposedly, something like this has been happening since the 1600's: The name "Morgellons Disease" is based on the description of a similar fiber producing condition, found in children by Sir Thomas Browne in 1674. Microscopic drawings, dating from 1682 by Dr. Michel Etmuller appear to be similar to the fibers from present-day sufferers. (OSU) so could it be that it disappered for that long, only to come back recently, and was there really THAT much pollution in the 1600's?



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reply posted on 4-1-2007 @ 08:23 AM by Nemithesis


All logical research aside, how about a wild - off the wall - unsubstantiated conspiracy theory?

What if Pfizer has been secretly test marketing a special version of Visine brand eye drops that contain a man modified pathogen that can get into the blood stream and detect and start replicating in the presence of THC?

The ultimate "harsh" for stoners. Or like an AIDS for using what some people would consider a narcotic drug.

Several different things led me to this theory, non of which can be considered credible sources.



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reply posted on 23-1-2007 @ 02:11 AM by aronnaca


Morgellons Disease
New Lab Findings Point To Silicone/Silica
and High Density Polyethlyene Fibers,
Are These Now Being Sprayed On Meats and Vegetables?

It appears, new lab findings using tissue and bone specimens have solved some of the mysteries of Morgellons Disease.

Eighteen specimens, taken from a 57-year-old woman reveal bone, synovium and joint tissue having extensive degenerative fragmentation, roughening and bony formation and underlying extensive degeneration of the bone. Chronic inflammation with fibrosis, calcification of the bone and surrounding soft tissue of the joint shows presence of crystalloid fragments consistent with silicone and silica. Further, a private study to determine the chemical and biological composition of fiber specimens taken from a second woman in Florida has shown that the fiber's outer casing is made up of high density polyethylene (HDPE). The fiber material is used commonly in the manufacture of fiber optics.

The following are findings presented by Dr. Hildegarde Staninger, RIET-1, Industrial Toxicologist/IH & Doctor of Integrative Medicine. "Far-Infrared Radiant Heat (FIR RH) Type Remediation for Mold and Other Unique Diseases" © October 18, 2006, at the NREP Annual Conference in Nashville, TN for the National Registry of Environmental Professionals, P.0. Box 2099, Glenview, IL 60025 Phone: 847-724-6631, Fax: 847-724-4223

Dr. Staninger's findings are pending to published in the Journal of Pathology.

"Morgellons"

- - - A disease in which individuals have the growth of fibers from their skin that burn at 1,700 degrees F and do not melt. (20)(* see below) A private study to determine the chemical and biological composition of these fibers has shown that the fibers' outer casing is made up of high density polyethylene fiber (HDPE). The fiber material is used commonly in the manufacture of fiber optics. There is no history of the individual in that industry or coming into contact with this material. It was further determined that this material is used throughout the bio nanotechnology world as a compound to encapsulate a viral protein envelope, which is composed of a viron (1/150th times smaller than a virus) with DNA, RNA, RNAi (mutated RNA) or RNAsi linear or ring plasmids for specific functions. (21, 22) Toxicological pathology identification of tissue biopsies from an individual diagnosed with Morgellons revealed the presence of continual silica or glass tubules with the presence of silicone. (23) Dr. Staninger's full paper presented at conference

It must be noted that the core toxicological effects of silicone alone have been demonstrated throughout the breast implant industry and litigation cases. (24, 25)

Furthermore, silicone cannot make silica, but silica or silica bicarbonate can make silicone through natural cellular interaction in a biological system. The subject did not have breast implants or any other implant or silicon glue injections. "



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reply posted on 23-1-2007 @ 02:35 AM by Grimnal


if u dam texans stop eating dinosaur fecies may it would go away



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reply posted on 13-2-2007 @ 11:34 PM by Southcty


You are correct in the assumption that a GMO is the cause of morgellons, and in the statement that it is affecting other species as well. The organism is a modified cyanobacterium, all research done to date point at R. Seeberi as the base organism with higher primate, a marine specie and insect gene input. In other words, this is a huge problem.

Cyano and algae, in more general terms; plankton, represents the biggest body, the biggest weight, the biggest decision maker related to life, because it represents the source code of all life that is present.

This type of information incorporated into this GMO, has begun to exponentially proliferate into the environment and create momentum in a body it feels most comfortable with, including water and soil; this includes freshwater supplies, lakes, rivers and the vast ocean.

You are also correct in thinking that "this is very bad". It is nothing short of a disaster.

They can't stop it, they can't keep science at pace with the speed nature integrates this type element in every life form that is around.

For more information concerning the research that has been done visit silentsuperbug-reference.blogspot.com... www.crossinglines.net

And then demand an investigation as to why our federal health monitors continue to ignore their responsibility to inform the general public as to the existence of this organism.

www.crossinglines.net... silentsuperbug-reference.blogspot.com...



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reply posted on 30-3-2007 @ 09:58 PM by Matyas


I am going to tie this thread to this one.

I have my reservations still but all stones must be overturned.



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reply posted on 1-4-2007 @ 02:31 PM by questionhair

Dr. Harvey on Morgellons in Dermatology Journal

Journal of the American Academy of Dermatology

April, 2007

www.eblue.org...

Dr. William T. Harvey responds to previous articles written on Morgellons that stated that Morgellons patients were suffering from delusions:

excerpt:

" . . . To anyone willing to look and listen, all patients with Morgellons carry elevated laboratory proinflammatory markers, elevated insulin levels, and verifiable serologic evidence of 3 bacterial pathogens. They also show easily found physical markers such as peripheral neuropathy, delayed capillary refill, abnormal Romberg's sign, decreased body temperature, and tachycardia. Most importantly they will improve, and most recover on antibiotics directed at the above pathogens. . . "



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reply posted on 1-4-2007 @ 02:51 PM by makeitso


Unfortunately, this is just a letter to the editor, not a research article. Just as unfortunatly the good Dr. Harvey neglects to help others by posting the full information.


all patients with Morgellons carry elevated laboratory proinflammatory markers,


Which markers, and how elevated?


elevated insulin levels
,

How high are the elevations?


and verifiable serologic evidence of 3 bacterial pathogens.


Which 3 bacterial pathogens?


most recover on antibiotics directed at the above pathogens


Which antibiotics are effective? What quantity should be used for effective control? How long are they needed?

If the Dr. can take the time to quote Carl Sagan, he could easily have used the same time and space to have cited the above valuable information. That would have made his letter to the editor much more valuable. I hope he follows up with the information.



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reply posted on 1-4-2007 @ 11:05 PM by questionhair

Morgellons Symptoms, Other Signs, Laboratory Abnormalities

www.usp-db.com...

Not specific answers to your questions above, however, more information in the same vein.

Scroll down for the laboratory information.


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