Originally posted by Hermes Trismegitus
Originally posted by StarLord
My question is whether or not the Dream State is a valid forum for experiences and thus a valid arena for working through our individual Karma?
You're talking about lucid dreaming. And 99 times out of 100 when it happens to me, I try very hard to fly into the nearest high school girl's
locker room. So I don't think that's doing a whole lot for my karma.
There are alot of factors to talk about when one poses a question about 'karma'.
Some of which include culture, the persons ideas and beliefs, all the typical phychological and social (individual and as a society) markers you'd
take into consideration for anything of this nature and understanding.
Let me give an example if I may, before I even answer this question.
Let's say a person comes to me with a problem. This problem is deep seeded and it has physical, emotional and mental reamifications - just as ANY
problem would for ANY person (weather the problem is real or just a belief). This probelm the person comes to me with is something that is fabricated
in his or her own mind. She believes that she is living in 2 worlds, 2 dementions at the same time. She believes that living in 2 worlds at the same
time is causeing all of her anxiety, headachs and body pains, inability to focus and consentrate, nightmares, and any other symptoms we might be able
to come up with.
Now, knowing that this person doesn not actualy live in 2 worlds at the same time, how are we going to treat her symptoms? No amount of medication,
antipsychotic, pain meds, anti anxiety etc will end her problems because the main problem (as she believes it to be) is that she is devided and
liveing the duel existance.
Our plan of treatment would have to include her belief.
This means we treat her for the problem she precieves she has. Once this patient is being 'treated' for her 'problem' - her symptoms will
begin to fade. In this case, maybe I'd let her go back with hipnosis and work out the issues she believes to be troubling her. There may not even
be a need for medication after the counciling has been done.
I know you wonder why I went through all this to talk about Karma.
Karma is self made. It is true that there are reprocussions, consequences for all that we do. It is true that our possative or negative thoughts and
feelings do actualy play a big part in shaping and creating our lives, it is true that the negative or possative thoughts etc from other people effect
us as well, it is true that everything we do, everything we see, everyone we meet, talk to, don't talk to etc will cause a ripple effect on our life
and the lives of everyone else (which is why it's just not wise to even bother asking for a prediction f the future). All these things being true -
I am still not equating this with the word 'karma'.
Karma, to most people, means that what you do will boomarang around and bite you in the butt or reward you for your goodness. This isn't true.
Energy is an action/reaction, cause and effect thing --- but energy is not spiteful or fair.
I hate to say "it depends", but it realy is an individual thing in this case.
So the answer is 2-fold. Yes, because it is a individual mind that may hold beliefs that would cause Karma to be a thing you can work out in
But also no - because Karma, simply isn't a truth.
[edit on 5-17-2006 by AngelaLadyS]