posted on Sep, 11 2008 @ 01:45 AM
Wow, am I reading an awful lot of misconceptions here.
Seems at least once every two months, someone starts a thread on HHO electrolysis, and people start posting as if they're experts, misleading
So... time for some education... again...
1 : Conservation of energy.
Yes, HHO cannot break the conservation of energy... it cannot achieve over-unity. NOTHING CAN.
Does this mean we shouldn't use it? NO.
Solar isn't over-unity... you still use that.
Wind isn't over-unity...
Nuclear isn't over-unity...
Gasoline isn't over-unity...
Nothing is over-unity... but you still use them as fuel sources.
All fuel in existence is merely the art of storing, converting/refining, and moving energy from one area to another for use. HHO is no
You're using electricity to acquire HHO. Trading one fuel for another. Yes, you end up with less usable energy in the end... but the point is, you
can't exactly BURN electricity.
So no, you don't get free energy.
And no, it isn't worthless because of that.
Nothing gives you free energy, unless your talking financially.
The feasible use for HHO is in torches. Why? Because it's safe, it's clean, and your fuel can be made on demand!
2 : Limited supply of water
People who say this shouldn't be listened to.
When you electrolyze water into HHO, you have NOT lost matter.
When you burn it, and it recombines back into water... guess what...
YOU HAVEN'T LOST ANY WATER.
You still have the same amount of water you started off with... in fact, the re-combined water is typically CLEANER than when it was electrolyzed.
Essentially, anyone who claims we'll "Run out of water" doesn't understand what the process of electrolyzing water is, nor what happens when you
burn it again.
Now, it's not just the propaganda induced nay-Sayers who need to be dealt with here. So...
3 : Running your car on water
This isn't an obvious one, so I can understand why people get misled like this. Hydrogen isn't your best option for automotive use.
Because your using electricity to obtain HHO, and at a loss... considering the weight, power storage, and power output of both electrical and hydrogen
vehicles... your best option is to stick with electric vehicles.
Don't bother with the electrolysis, pressurization of fuel storage, and flow regulation, when you can simply store the energy directly in a battery,
or sequential capacitor grid.
4 : Can't be real, that guy was touching a torch!
That's one of the neat little tricks you can perform with burning HHO.
You see, the reaction of the Hydrogen and Oxygen re-combining produces water. Water, coming from a pressurized source, is cold.
The torch head itself is getting cooled by the same reaction that is producing the flame a little further out from the torch head.
So yes, the torch head itself is cool to the touch. While the reaction of oxidization packs enough energy to melt and cut steel.
Remember, the flame isn't burning IN the torch head, the flame is burning AFTER the torch head.
5 : Normal people don't have enough money to do this.
Got a battery? Or even a power outlet you don't mind resetting the breakers on?
Got a bucket/bowl/anything that can hold water?
Got salt or baking soda?
Then you have what you need to produce it.
My first time making HHO was with a glass bowl, salt water, a 12V battery, and a couple of jumper cables. That's it.
The configuration is obvious too...
Pour the salt water in the bowl... clip the wires onto the battery... and toss the other ends straight into the water.
It really is that simple.
After that, over the years when I felt like it, I made more controlled versions. The last one I did back in Ottawa stored the HHO gas for future use
by means of natural water pressure... same water that gets used in the electrolysis.
Used stainless steel for the electrolysis plates, as other metals corrode quickly.
Pulsed power supply.
But hey, stop making claims that it doesn't work, AND GO DO IT! I've been doing it for years just for the heck of it.
So don't try to tell me it doesn't work, lol.
[edit on 11-9-2008 by johnsky]