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Dolphin,Alien link,Dolphins know more than we think

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posted on May, 15 2006 @ 11:44 AM
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Originally posted by moog synthesizer
sonar burst to stun fish*


Dolphins do do this. I have seen them make use of this evolutionary weapon. The sheer sound of them can knock a fish out.

If dolphins needed thumbs, they wouldn't have evolved flippers in the first place.




posted on May, 15 2006 @ 03:00 PM
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Until we can actively communicate with Dolphins it is mere speculation as to what they really know... in fact that is true for all animals, insects etc.

We know that they haven't achieved a technological society of any sort that we are aware of either.

Just because an animal doesn't speak, does not mean that it needs to either is a logical argument.



posted on May, 15 2006 @ 03:53 PM
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all together you might be able so say,dolphins control the world...we just dont know or understand how....there is no new world order,theres dolphins

with there big heads an sharp little teeth............can you jump 8 feet out of the water. can you even jump 3 feet on land



posted on May, 15 2006 @ 04:32 PM
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The dolphin ET connection is an inside joke ploy to make fun of cranks. If you couldn't tell from the start of this thread.

On a more down to Earth note on the subject of dolphins. I'm not ruling out a sonar burst or noise bangs by dolphins to kill small fish.
Another interesting note I saw on Ripley's Believe It or Not! a blind teenager learned how to make clicking sound with his mouth as a type of noise location method. he was riding through the park with his bycilcle. It was the darndest thing.



posted on May, 15 2006 @ 08:04 PM
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thats not true dolphins have inteligent speach, they have differnt sound ing pitches an tones. ans as some one said they can produce up to 300 clicks a second,tht shows alot of inteligence to me.

can you make 10 clicks in one second



posted on May, 15 2006 @ 09:04 PM
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Originally posted by DalairTheGreat
some one said they can produce up to 300 clicks a second,tht shows alot of inteligence to me.

can you make 10 clicks in one second


A howler monkey can be heard 3 miles away, that shows intelligence. Can you be heard one mile away? I think dolphins are intelligent, but the way to prove it is not by comparing them to humans. Their evolution was completely seperate from ours, so there is little common ground to base a comparison.



posted on May, 15 2006 @ 09:30 PM
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Here is the site, forum and topic for this thread:
Above Top Secret 5.0 » Aliens & UFOs » Dolphin,Alien link,Dolphins know more than we think

Can we steer the discussion away from debating the intelligence of primates and porpoises, and focus more on the "Dolphin,Alien link" ?

Again, this is the Aliens and UFOs forum.

Thank you.




... and now back to:



Dolphin,Alien link,Dolphins know more than we think



posted on May, 15 2006 @ 09:51 PM
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Originally posted by Rasobasi420
A howler monkey can be heard 3 miles away, that shows intelligence. Can you be heard one mile away? I think dolphins are intelligent, but the way to prove it is not by comparing them to humans. Their evolution was completely seperate from ours, so there is little common ground to base a comparison.


Actually in the Canary Islands, they do have a means of communication via whistles that can be heard about 5 miles away. The real question on such, when you have the largest brain on the planet, what do you think about? That is the question about whales.




[edit: BBcode for quoting]

[edit on 5/15/2006 by 12m8keall2c]



posted on May, 15 2006 @ 09:55 PM
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Which is why I think that aliens are here communicating either Star Trek 4 style, or H2G2 style. Either way, we're going to be left behind, stuck with a surplus of fish.



posted on May, 15 2006 @ 10:42 PM
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I hadn't thought about it until I saw this thread where Dalair said,"mabye dolphins have some other hidden powers that we dont know about." and I recall the one time I swam with dolphins (bottlenose's?) off Cuba while sailing and trying to avoid "square grouper" bails floatin' past.

We were in some coral shallows on 'bbean side that lead into a small lagoon where we decide to spend the night. I went for a swim with snorkelling gear and I was greeted by a playful dolphin that thought it'd be good sport to tug at my right flipper and leave little teeth prints in the rubber. I floated to the surface slowly not knowing whether to freak out or not - I didn't want to panic cuz this animal was more powerful than me and I wasn't expecting any animals that size. Kind of like seeing a bear on two legs at the dump up close and personal. Stay vector cool.

So I'm floatin' on the surface, purged my snorkel and looking down through the water I see the dolphin "floatin" up slow as if mimicking what I'd just done! So let's call him Flipper, gets up to my fin again and mouths it just floatin' there! I didn't notice but a smaller dolphin "floated up" on my six o'clock and grabbed my other fin the same way! I felt zero fear or any sense of threat from these "animals".

The freaky part is they then let go of my fins and floated up to either side of me and purged their blow holes. I had raised my own head out of the water to call up to the deck so someone would get the HandyCam on it, and I smelled the dolphin breath of Flipper and his little buddy - can you say "used gymsocks." Smeggy.

Flipper and his pal then did the most amazing thing relating to "sound" and that is why I write this post. Mentioned were the "clicks" that were used to kill. I think this may be true. I also believe that dolphins can heal as well as kill. I kid you not.

You see my right leg is "junk" from several motorcyle roadrace accidents over the decades (Elkhart Lake, Mosport, Shannonville) and my knee is very arthritic after 4 ortho and 3 open procedures (I often require a "Mad Max" Dupuis-style articulating knee brace).

Well flipper and his little pal floated down to my right knee, Flipper on the lateral side and the little guy on the medial side and pressed their heads gently against both sides of my knee making contact just in front of their blow holes and made what felt like the sound of a Aussy digerydoo - kind of a vibration that tickled and felt good in my knee! I could feel it in my fingertips too - no bubbles. How could they know my knee was "junk"? The water at the surface was all little ripples and my buddy started yelling, "Get out of the water!" repeatedly and generally went mental preventing video, scaring away Flipper and his pal and ending a moment in my life I consider an epiphany. I can't say "what" it was but I'll never forget it.

I can prove nothing but I'm quite sure that dolphins are "very developed of brain pan" and may exceed us in some "human" aspects too not to mention the "X Factor" efferent sensory and afferent effectors owing to the different physiology. Too bad we couldn't get dolphins to teach our species a thing or two, perhaps about ourselves... maybe what Philipino people call "pakkikisama" the ability to get along with others. Wishful thinking.

BTW: When I got out of the water I felt strangely sad, like a friend had died or something, yet a minute earlier I was totally jazzed and happy. My knee was red like after a hot parafin bath, or ultrasound treatment and felt "good tingly numb" as opposed to "throbbing pain numb" for a bit (maybe 10 minutes). I noticed no long term change in my knee but what if you could visit Flipper and his little pal more frequently? How did they know where I hurt? What was the "digerydoo sound"?

Thanx for starting this thread Dalair,

Victor K.

[edit on 15-5-2006 by V Kaminski]



posted on May, 15 2006 @ 11:26 PM
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your welcome

another post that could pose this as dolphins bieng more inteligent than we think
www.abovetopsecret.com...
supposedly they give each other names

and from what victor said,dolphins do seem to have apparent abilities. This may have been my experience but while i was at sea-world even with all the commotion going on with the people else where you can notices how calm things are around the dolphins. people just seem calmer around them.

they could have the same powers humans have supposedly in the "proto human" days if you want to call is, homo erectus,or sapien or cro magnon could telepathicly talk to each other ot alert each other of danger. We have lost the abilities now but dolphins may still have them since the really have no reason to evolve at this point.


sorry that i used supposedly alot,and if you cant understand what im saying because of jumbled words, its real late an im not in the mind state to notice my mistakes



posted on May, 15 2006 @ 11:41 PM
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I watched a video recently on the net which (to make a long story short) stated that the dolphin was a cousin of the greys. It went into some discussion about it. Very interesting. If I come across it again, I'll post a link.



posted on May, 15 2006 @ 11:48 PM
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DaLairTheGreat Wrote:

thats not true dolphins have inteligent speach, they have differnt sound ing pitches an tones. ans as some one said they can produce up to 300 clicks a second,tht shows alot of inteligence to me.


I'm sorry, but I have to wonder if someone who writes like that is able to detect intelligence.



posted on May, 16 2006 @ 12:09 AM
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ha ha ha,thats funny. I already mentions its late an im sleepy. sleep depravation causes me to know what i want to type but tpye it all jumbled up.

and i dont really care that my spelling bad. spelling doesnt mean your not intelligent.

either way your just mad your proof, doesnt have the evidence to back it up, or any articles that could bring light to the topic



posted on May, 16 2006 @ 12:49 AM
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Okay Dolphins and Greys have a similar look amazingly... but has anybody put into words the theory of their connection? I'm confused here... are dolphins ancient primitive relatives or are they equivalent to greys under the water?

Greys are noted for their telepathic ability according to abductees etc., so it would be natural to expect a similar ability from dolphins. I've read stuff on the web by people that channel dolphins but I most of it is very cheesy to say the least so I don't consider this kind of materal to be real.



posted on May, 16 2006 @ 12:57 AM
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Originally posted by DalairTheGreat
Dolphins have those telepathic powers,an echo location.


Bats use echo location. Whales use echo location. Do they have "telepathic powers?"


Originally posted by DalairTheGreat
a dolphin could easily kill a human. but there inteligence level is so high thy dont have a reason to.


Though they have killed people in the past. Most animals rarely have a reason to kill, until we give them one.


Originally posted by Nova
I read in a recent post here that dolphins had been trained by the US Navy to attack underwater terrorists (yeah I know it sounds silly) - don't know if there's any truth to this, but if dolphins went along with this then they're obviously not that clever!


Yes, I believe seals and sealions have also been used for these means as well. Also, they've been trained to search for mines.


Originally posted by DalairTheGreat
dolphins cant be trained. what they do is on there own. They do it willingly. just like if i told you to kill your self you would do or not do it willingly.


No, they do it because they get a reward. If you repeat the same action enough with just about any animal, no matter the brain size, it will eventually become habituary to do the same thing. For example, I trained my cats to come to me when I open a certain cupboard. How? It happened inadvertantly. The cupboard I would open contains their food, so they knew that when that opened I would be giving them more food and they would come running.

With a dolphin, you smack the water with your palm two times and it comes for a snack. Same principle, just a different animal and a different action. Pavlov would be disappointed in your logic.




or if you think of it as us controling them,what about a big dog getting ready to attack its controling you by making you back up,or get scared


That's not the dog controlling you. It's your natural "fight or flight" instincts taking over.


Originally posted by DalairTheGreat
theres not "trained" to find mines or divers or anything else,there "trained" to alert humans about it. dont you think theyve been swiming around long enough to have know n the mines where there.


So they just know where the mines and people swimming about are? Something that they just happen to know when they're taken about the world to places they've never been? Must be those "telepathic powers."



Originally posted by JackofBlades
If you were to call that telepathy then are you saying bats are telepathic too? And are in contact with aliens?


I've been replying to this as I've read it. We think alike, as you can see from the beginning of my post. Also, many blind people can echolocate too. Do they have "telapathic powers?"


Originally posted by moog synthesizer
sonar burst to stun fish*


Are you suggesting that dolphins have the power to create radio waves? Sonar and echolocation are two vastly different things.



Originally posted by DalairTheGreat
all together you might be able so say,dolphins control the world...


Right... And you came to this conclusion how, again?



with there big heads an sharp little teeth............can you jump 8 feet out of the water. can you even jump 3 feet on land


Why would we need to? Humanity evolved to be hunters on land. We can be stealthy when we need to be. We also developed weapons to disable and kill our prey.


Originally posted by DalairTheGreat
thats not true dolphins have inteligent speach, they have differnt sound ing pitches an tones. ans as some one said they can produce up to 300 clicks a second,tht shows alot of inteligence to me.


So they can make a range of rapid noises means they are intelligent? Well, cats can see UV light. Dogs can hear into the ultrasonic frequencies. Are they intelligent because of their natual abilities too?



can you make 10 clicks in one second


No, but that goes back to being hunters on land and there being no purpose for it. Can you swing from a tree? Probably not, but monkeys and apes can. Does that make them intelligent?


Originally posted by 12m8keall2c
Can we steer the discussion away from debating the intelligence of primates and porpoises, and focus more on the "Dolphin,Alien link" ?


I guess that's what I get for typing my reply as I go... Will do from now on.


That being said... What evidence do you have to show that dolphins are in contact with aliens? That goes for anyone. All that has been said in this thread is that it's possible. Well, anything is possible. Pigs nesting in trees and the flying at the command of their leader Harold and then being used as a system of mass transit by the French is possible. That doesn't mean it has or will happen. So where is the proof that dolphins have had contact with an extraterrestrial species?



posted on May, 16 2006 @ 12:57 AM
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All I have to say is, if these animal are so smart, then how come they can't stop us from destroying and polluting the planet they live on, which is directly affecting their health and future?



posted on May, 16 2006 @ 01:07 AM
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i was looking for some one else to find a link between them,all i have to go of of is Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy...lol



posted on May, 16 2006 @ 01:27 AM
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Originally posted by DalairTheGreat
all i have to go of of is Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy...lol


Well, then you should know mice are the most intelligent species on the planet. Not dolphins. Of course, that's because they are, in fact, aliens themselves.

I really don't see any connection between dolphins and extraterrestrials at all.



posted on May, 16 2006 @ 02:15 AM
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Actually Killer Whales are the largest of the dolphin family. They are also quite intelligent. I run a boat for a whale watching company out of Vancouver, BC. We observe the southern resident pod that returns every year for the summer. There are 3 pods which are actually families. Each pod is an extended family. They have very defined social structure. Females run the pods like most families(even Human), and family members help with the raising of the offspring. They like to have play time like any of us and each pod has it's own language but also a commom language to communicate with the other pods. They are very cooperative(unlike us) and are smart enough to know that they must breed outside of the pod for fear of inbreeding.

Echo-location is not used to stun fish. It is used to locate fish and objects. Dolphins and Orcas slap their prey with their tails to stun them or use bubble rings with several animals forming a ring of bubbles around their prey to confuse them and keep them confined to one ball of fish. Orcas also circle the prey flashing their white bellies to keep the fish balled up.

I've included this video link which you might find interesting. Looks like school is in session.




www.expeditions.com/aboutus/orca.asp



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