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reply posted on 15-5-2006 @ 06:54 PM by CX
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Originally posted by Oldtimer2
I too use Tens machines ,I was told it was to promote healing ,so far to no avail 
As Byrd says above, TENS won't actually cure anything, it just jams/blocks the pain. Works on the pain gate theory explained here...
www.aromacaring.co.uk...
They won't get lazy people a sixpack either!
CX.
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reply posted on 16-5-2006 @ 10:20 AM by Oldtimer2
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Well as far as inhibiting pain it is on no help either,I have one for 3 parts of my body,if the stick on patches happenen to work loose can be very
painful,I've had them for over 10 yrs so I think as far as I'm concerned of no help to me,just my personal opinion
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reply posted on 16-5-2006 @ 10:41 AM by Byrd
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Originally posted by Diseria
What if you could you the benificial properties of oxygen.. electron stealer...and combine it with electrotherapy!! would the electric current
supply the oxygen with enough of a buzz to leave our cells alone?? [/ 
I wouldn't try that one, personally. The red blood cells have all the oxygen they can carry unless there's something wrong with your lungs.
Electrocuting yourself or electrostimulating yourself doesn't cause them to carry more oxygen.
In short, there's something with the proteins involved that allows the oxygen molecule to attach to the cancer, or pull enough of it away to render
it dead. I'm not sure how the two react to each other.. 
Well, oxygen is necessary for EVERY living cell; not just cancer. So every living cell gets it (it attaches to something within the cell.) Extra
oxygen doesn't do anything (just like adding extra sugar to a glass of sweet tea after it's been sweetened with a cup of sugar does not make the tea
sweeter. The rest of the sugar doesn't dissolve.)
 On terms of cancer, I've heard that small amounts of cyanide (found in peach pits?) is a potent killer. 
Of humans, yes. That's one way to get rid of cancer; kill the patient. Don't recommend this (studies have been done of laetrille (often
misidentified as a "vitamin") and no, it's not effective. A LOT of studies have been done, in fact, by drug companies that wanted to manufacture
it.)
 Same with raw broccoli and cauliflower (*shudder*). 
Actually, this one's good science. Cruciferous vegetables are recommended to lower cancer incidence.
 However, I don't remember anything being mentioned about being good for viruses. 
Viruses and bacteria and cancer and prions are four different things. As different as rocks, water, dinosaurs, and trees.
 Along the lines of electrotherapy, when it's done to a mental patient (to 'reset' their brain or whatever).... what if the currency was
turned way down? 
Then it doesn't work.
 Might we be able to 'reset' a section of the brain? 
That's the theory about how electroshock therapy works, yes.
 or kill tumors? 
No. They do use electricity to heat probes to cauterize away tumorous tissues, however. But that's with an operation.
 I don't know what currency level is/was being used, but all the videos I've seen portray a serious amount of electricity being shot thru the
body -- which can't be good for the brain! 
Electroshock can have some long-lasting effects, yes.
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reply posted on 16-5-2006 @ 10:43 AM by AGENT_T
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As I recall, he was shut down by compalints from relatives of patients who died.

Whoops. definitely not the result the patient was hoping for i would hazard a guess
 Johnson & Johnson lost a $130 million dollar lawsuit when it tried to suppress TENS units as a treatment for pain. Johnson & Johnson manufactures
Tylenol and earns billions of dollars annually from pain killing medicine
www.alkalizeforhealth.net...
More health versus medicine
www.savedrclark.net...
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reply posted on 16-5-2006 @ 01:43 PM by Long Lance
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I wouldn't try that one, personally. The red blood cells have all the oxygen they can carry unless there's something wrong with your lungs.
Electrocuting yourself or electrostimulating yourself doesn't cause them to carry more oxygen.

Ideally, yes, in practice, there is more to respiration than textbooks tell, the ionic component is vital. even though the earth's natural electric
environment will ususally do that for us, we can use tools if we feel like it.
Source
Tchijewsky's colleague D.A. Lapitsky tried raising small animals in air depleted of oxygen. As they were about to die of suffocation he added
neg-ions and found that "animals already near death from asphyxiation began to feel better, sat up sniffed the air, and began to run around the
chamber. Their respiration frequency increased. Switching off the ionizer again brought them to the verge of asphyxiation."
i have a hunch that a few exceptional sportsmen are using an electrolytic mix which keeps them powered like a battery, or perhaps more precisely, a
fuel cell, but don't quote me on that.
coincidentially, the guy who wrote the above article reports of testing in the field
Tchijewsky also discovered increased performance in athletes using negative ion generators in the late 1940's.
this is the holy grail of doping, i will not name anyone, though and i'm certain that side effects are minimal if any exist at all.
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reply posted on 16-5-2006 @ 06:59 PM by AGENT_T
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I used to use drinks with elecrolytes frequently during training session.It seems to have more of a re-hydration benefit than anything else.
Maybe because the brand name was more geared toward that goal. i dunno,..
One thing is certain though.since restarting my electrotherapy i feel more invigorated.while aware that this may just be due to pain stimulating
metabolism/adrenaline or whatever.I feel pretty good even after only three two hour sessions..gonna try the whole three weeks with this regime.
worthwhile since two years of meds and physio hasn,t worked
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reply posted on 16-5-2006 @ 08:58 PM by denynothing
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wow if this could work it would be phenomal to modern medicine
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reply posted on 16-5-2006 @ 09:06 PM by Nakash
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*shudder* if a dialysis machine is like having somebody rip your entrails apart according to people who use them, I wonder what periodic blood
transfusions on the scale neccesary to halt the HIV spread through this method would do. Also it's not a cure from what I'm reading, just a way to
prolong life. Still better than nothing though.
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reply posted on 16-5-2006 @ 10:07 PM by Beer_Guy
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The red blood cells have all the oxygen they can carry unless there's something wrong with your lungs. Electrocuting yourself or electrostimulating
yourself doesn't cause them to carry more oxygen.

Taking ginseng does....
In Yahoo Groups, ya might want to check out "microelectricitygermkiller". I joined that one, and while I don't contribute, I find it fascinating
reading.
I use a six volt lantern battery, lamp cord, and a DPDT switch(to reverse the current every 10 minutes) with excellent results. I use the stick on
pads from my TENS unit with the battery.
I cut my finger last week, got 5 stitches. Doc said the stitches should come out in 9 days. After 5 days (using the battery 20 min. a day) the wound
looks to be completely healed except for a small indentation where the cut was.
I'm trying it on other stuff now...
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reply posted on 18-5-2006 @ 10:22 AM by AGENT_T
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one piece of advice guys
dont leave your zappers on when you go pee
OUCH!!
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reply posted on 18-5-2006 @ 10:58 AM by Thain Esh Kelch
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 EXTREMELY SMALL, SAFE AMOUNTS OF ELECTRICITY (A FEW THOUSANDTHS OF AN AMPERE) HAVE BEEN FOUND TO BE BEYOND THE TOLERANCE LEVEL OF PATHOGENIC
LIFE FORMS; AND HAVE BEEN PROVEN TO KILL OR DEVITALIZE HIV, CANCER, HERPES, TUBERCULOSIS, HEPATITIS, COLDS, FLU, AND OTHER VIRUSES, FUNGI, PARASITES,
AND BACTERIA IN BLOOD AND BODY FLUID RENDERING 
I havent any clue on how to calculate electricity, but how many volts would this be?
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reply posted on 18-5-2006 @ 11:16 AM by Long Lance
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body resistance
Source
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Body resistance is not a fixed quantity. It varies from person to person and from time to time. There's even a body fat measurement technique based
on a measurement of electrical resistance between a person's toes and fingers. Differing percentages of body fat give provide different resistances:
just one variable affecting electrical resistance in the human body. In order for the technique to work accurately, the person must regulate their
fluid intake for several hours prior to the test, indicating that body hydration another factor impacting the body's electrical resistance.
for the record
Voltage = Resistance * Current,
body resistance depends on placement of the electrodes, moisture, etc etc
Wire touched by finger: 40,000 Ω to 1,000,000 Ω dry, 4,000 Ω to 15,000 Ω wet.
Wire held by hand: 15,000 Ω to 50,000 Ω dry, 3,000 Ω to 5,000 Ω wet.
Metal pliers held by hand: 5,000 Ω to 10,000 Ω dry, 1,000 Ω to 3,000 Ω wet.
Contact with palm of hand: 3,000 Ω to 8,000 Ω dry, 1,000 Ω to 2,000 Ω wet.
1.5 inch metal pipe grasped by one hand: 1,000 Ω to 3,000 Ω dry, 500 Ω to 1,500 Ω wet.
1.5 inch metal pipe grasped by two hands: 500 Ω to 1,500 kΩ dry, 250 Ω to 750 Ω wet.
Hand immersed in conductive liquid: 200 Ω to 500 Ω.
Foot immersed in conductive liquid: 100 Ω to 300 Ω.
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reply posted on 18-5-2006 @ 06:57 PM by AGENT_T
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Thanks long lance. i would really have no idea.
i just strap on my ***Y **K gear n let the controller do the rest.
just finished work. feelin pretty good after 3 days,normally i get back depressed with the pain,   
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reply posted on 18-5-2006 @ 09:29 PM by Beer_Guy
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I havent any clue on how to calculate electricity, but how many volts would this be?

A measure of amps, even a very small amount, can't tell you the volts by itself.
And I forget the formula at present, it's easily searchable....
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reply posted on 18-5-2006 @ 09:34 PM by Beer_Guy
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Long Lance posted the formula I couldn't remember....
Voltage = Resistance * Current

All I gotta do is read....
Current = amps, from your question, the rest is an unknown quantity, so you need another variable to figure out the voltage. (the resistance)
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reply posted on 30-5-2006 @ 06:09 AM by Relentless
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Agent T: Anything to report? I wanted to give this thread a bump and add a few things.
There is a big difference between a TENS unit and a Microcurrent unit, though the microcurrent units are classified as a TENS unit so that they do not
need a separate FDA approval. The claims of the microcurrent unit contradict using the amount of electricity stimulation that is in a standard TENS.
I happen to have a microcurrent unit I got to try for a muscle condition that can attack anywhere in my body (I did get a script for it, but it
wasn't asked for when I purchased it on line).
Whether or not it purifies the blood I can't tell you because I do not have the means to test that. However, I can report this. Used locally it does
have an amazing ability to heal rapidly. I suspect this is due to stimulating blood flow at the very least. I had forgotten all about it till I read
this thread and at the time I purchased it I don't recall any claims of "blood purification". On top of using it for attacks in specific areas of
my body, I used it a year or two ago when I had a serious (probably compound) sprain that had my foot black up past my ankles. I think anyone who has
sufferred a serious injury in the foot knows how long (weeks) it can take to clear up. After three days of using it on the sprain, not only was I back
in shoes but the bruising was totally gone. That was pretty amazing.
The thing has been sitting on a shelf for quite some time (I pretty much forgot about it) and this thread has prompted me to pull it out again and use
it, not on an "as needed" basis but as an ongoing therapy to see what happens. It has four electrodes and I am using it on my wrists then ankles to
see if I get any overall improvement, which would mean a lessening of attacks, as oppossed to using it for attacks. In all honesty, I have been
relying on scripts exclusively for the past year or so, but the attacks are becoming more frequent and I want to see if this may prevent them.
I have already noticed "reactions" over the past three days, but I will wait a few more and then report back. I hope Agent T also gives an update.
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reply posted on 31-5-2006 @ 05:52 AM by AGENT_T
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Relentless, funny you should mention it,I havent been posting much on here for the last few days as i broke my thumb last week.kinda stings to type
weird thing is though that still using my kit, bearing in mind its a ''muscle toner'' type too, but use it one on each leg.
guess what??? the bruising that surrounded almost my entire hand and half way up my forearm is completely disappeared. i was kinda wondering why. but
now that you pointed out your ankle situation i,m thinking maybe the kit was responsible for the unusually fast healing.
energy levels are still good using the kit anyway,normally summers over here are draining with 40degrees plus and high humidity. gonna see how i deal
with it this year using same methods
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reply posted on 31-5-2006 @ 06:05 AM by Relentless
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Agent T: How are you using the device and is it microcurrent? Since we have to "wing it" here I would like to know what your methods are that are
working for you. How often and how long are you "zapping" and where are you placing the electrodes.
Thanks.
As for the mention of detoxing first, this was also not a concern when I first got mine, so I have not done that. (Like I shouldn't be smoking or
even using some of my supplements if this is a real concern.) Have you?
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reply posted on 9-6-2006 @ 11:36 PM by ATSGUY
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wait so can we actually make this healing machine thing.
Or get it.
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reply posted on 9-6-2006 @ 11:56 PM by imbalanced
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Why not just lick a 9 volt battey !!! LOLOL
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