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Parents sue video game company over childs suicide

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posted on May, 13 2006 @ 11:36 PM
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This really makes me angry.

news.yahoo.com...

In this news story, a 13 year old boy commits suicide after playing the game "Warcraft" for 36 hours straight and the parents are suing the video game company.

Maybe it's just me, but as a parent myself, I would never allow my 13 year old to stay up 36 hours straight doing anything. I think the parents are responsible for failing their parental responsibilities by not setting limits and not paying attention to what their kid was doing.

This isn't the only story I have seen like this either. Are parents not taking responsibility for their own parenting anymore?




posted on May, 14 2006 @ 11:38 PM
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That was my first reaction when I read the article as well. I would never let my child spend that kind of time playing a video game. As a parent you must set limits.

Talk of including warnings on video games is getting out of hand. There are just times when common sense should kick in. To have to warn people that 36 straight hours of gory violence might not be good for a child is rediculous.

I do feel for the boy and his parents, but this whole thing was so preventable.

Parent is a verb.



posted on May, 15 2006 @ 12:26 PM
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"to join the heroes of the game he worshipped,"


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The suit says Aomeisoft failed to include a warning that the game's U.S. maker rates it as suitable only for players above age 13, according to Xinhua.


And because of that the lunatic killed himself?????



posted on May, 15 2006 @ 12:32 PM
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Honestly, I have no sympathy for them. Where were the parents?
Waste of a life that's for sure.



posted on May, 15 2006 @ 12:35 PM
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how can a 13 year old sit and play a game, any game, for 36 hours straight? what were the parents doing? the game maker should countersue the parents for neglience and the authorities should look into what kind of abuse this kid suffered at the hands of his apparently uncaring parents.

any parent that ignores his kid to the point that the kid can play a video game for 36 hours straight should expect to spend some time in jail if that kid does anything as a result of that game.



posted on May, 15 2006 @ 12:47 PM
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I agree Crakeur, I think the parents should be charged with neglect.

Not to mention if the child killed himself over the reasons that he stated in his suicide note, he most likely had some mental issues already that he should've been getting help for. His parents obviously overlooked that as well.



posted on May, 20 2006 @ 06:33 AM
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Originally posted by snowflake_obsidian
Not to mention if the child killed himself over the reasons that he stated in his suicide note, he most likely had some mental issues already that he should've been getting help for. His parents obviously overlooked that as well.


So his parents are idiots? Well, lets have a quick shufti, yep, there's plenty of idiots alright, I guess it stands to reason that some have got have kids eh? Simple fact: idiots or not, these people are probably going out of their minds, and no doubt looking for something external to blame. Grief effects us all differently, but hey never mind their loss, lets hold them up to be berated.

Yeah, if nothing else, we can all feel better about how smart we all are.




posted on May, 20 2006 @ 06:37 AM
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World of Warcraft isnt exactly gorry. I bet he was trying to obtain some level or goal for 36 hours and failed. However its irrelevant, bad part on parents, its no better then letting your 11 year old get drunk and impregnated!

[edit on 20-5-2006 by imbalanced]



posted on May, 20 2006 @ 06:42 AM
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Being that i have played games for hours on end 15 hours being my record , it is very easy to get around your parents simply by getting up when there in bed playing all night getting off for 20 minets while your parents get up then hopping back on while they think youve been asleep all night , then you play all day again ,

So think about it mabye the parents were clueless to the amount of time there child was playing the game



posted on May, 20 2006 @ 08:39 AM
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Bai said Zhang's parents were suing the wrong company, because Aomeisoft was set up in August, eight months after his death. Bai said he didn't know which distributor sold the game in 2004.


This is my favorite part.



posted on May, 20 2006 @ 12:51 PM
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Originally posted by Implosion

So his parents are idiots? Well, lets have a quick shufti, yep, there's plenty of idiots alright, I guess it stands to reason that some have got have kids eh? Simple fact: idiots or not, these people are probably going out of their minds, and no doubt looking for something external to blame. Grief effects us all differently, but hey never mind their loss, lets hold them up to be berated.

Yeah, if nothing else, we can all feel better about how smart we all are.



Look, I understand that grief makes people a bit crazy and lack of common sense. That's not the point. The point is, they were idiots before hand when they let the kid stay up for 36 hours straight playing the game in the first place. They weren't in grief yet then were they?

[edit on 20-5-2006 by snowflake_obsidian]



posted on May, 21 2006 @ 04:38 PM
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Originally posted by snowflake_obsidian
Look, I understand that grief makes people a bit crazy and lack of common sense. That's not the point. The point is, they were idiots before hand when they let the kid stay up for 36 hours straight playing the game in the first place.




What crap. Kids are always going to do things without their parents knowledge, I don't care how devoted a parent you think you are, you ain't gonna stand over them 24/7 are you? You think they saw this coming? I mean, who commits suicide after 36 hours of warcraft anyway? You're just using this to give yourself a big fat ego rub, you know? "Oh, I would never let it happen to me...." well, I hope you never have to deal with something like this, but come on, surely if you want to feel better about yourself you could try maybe, i dunno, sit-ups?



posted on May, 21 2006 @ 04:56 PM
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Back in 2001, a 21 year old commited suicide in front of his computer. The game Everquest was on the computer when his body was found. The mother accused the game for causing his suicide.

Games do not cause suicide. People's inability to cope with life causes suicide.



posted on May, 21 2006 @ 09:42 PM
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LMAO! man i can see why that dude commited suicide cuz i to live in china and it SUCKS!!! thank god iam gong back to california this summer yayand why do they have to sue a game company games are the only thing that makes life somewhat bearable that and being able to buy any game i want without any age restriction and some adult DVDs for a dollar each hehe every game here is pirated i LOL when the they said that china is one of the most biggest markets for online gaming how can that be when they all use pirated versions and cheat all the FRIGGIN TIME!!! aargh its no fun
and i dont think anyone here willing to pay a monthy fee for the online game. man china is so screwed right now its almost laughable.



posted on May, 22 2006 @ 02:01 AM
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Originally posted by Implosion
What crap. Kids are always going to do things without their parents knowledge, I don't care how devoted a parent you think you are, you ain't gonna stand over them 24/7 are you? You think they saw this coming? I mean, who commits suicide after 36 hours of warcraft anyway? You're just using this to give yourself a big fat ego rub, you know? "Oh, I would never let it happen to me...." well, I hope you never have to deal with something like this, but come on, surely if you want to feel better about yourself you could try maybe, i dunno, sit-ups?


Of course I know that kids get away with things all the time. But come on, 36 hours is a full day and a half. The kid was only 13 years old. I could understand if he got away with it for 15/16 hours...but a full day and a half?

Who kills themselves after playing a video game? Someone who already had other issues to begin with. I even stated that in another one of my posts in this topic.

I simply feel that his parents didn't do all they could've done to make an effort to keep track of what their child is doing. I am simply stating my view on parenting. Of course you have every right to disagree with me. Yet saying that I am only stating my opinion for an "ego rub" I feel is quite presumptuous. How do you know that is my intention? You don't.

[edit on 22-5-2006 by snowflake_obsidian]



posted on May, 22 2006 @ 02:59 AM
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What a total n00b.



posted on May, 22 2006 @ 08:19 AM
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Originally posted by Implosion
You're just using this to give yourself a big fat ego rub, you know? "Oh, I would never let it happen to me...." well, I hope you never have to deal with something like this, but come on, surely if you want to feel better about yourself you could try maybe, i dunno, sit-ups?


The suicide in question in this thread would be either egoistic suicide or anomic suicide, we do not have enough information in the above article to determine which it is. However, both of these types are characterised by a lack of social integration.

Altruistic suicide and fatalistic suicide stems from over regulation of society - over integration within a group. Altruistic and fatalistic suicides are almost the exact opposite of anomic or egoistic suicide.

China is one of the world leaders in examples of altruistic and fatalistic suicide, so for this young boy to commit an egoistic or anomic suicide means that he did something that ran not only counter to regular norms involving self preservation, but he actually did something that was the total opposite of the suicide "norm" for his culture. That's pretty amazing.

The first and foremost, primary, number one agent of socialisation is family. It is a parent's obligation to socialise his / her child. Period. Full stop.

In this case, the parents failed so totally at socialisation that this boy, in a culture of fatalistic and altruistic norms, committed an anomic or egoistic act.

Now it's always possible that the boy was retarded or had a brain tumour or some organic problem of which the parents might not yet have been aware, however, it is more likely that they simply weren't paying close enough attention.

As a parent I can guarantee that my child has never done anything for 36 hours, because I pay attention. I once caught him watching tv about an hour after I tucked him in for bed - He will never forget the experience and it took him months to earn the privilege of having a tv in his room again.

I don't know how many children Implosion has, or if maybe he / she has a degree in child development, but it would appear to me (a sociologist) that there is a big difference in examining this issue and in doing sit ups. I've spent a great deal of time studying deviant behaviour (including suicide) and I can tell you that it absolutely does not make me feel good.

Giving birth does not make one a true parent any more than riding in a plane makes one a pilot. It takes work - damned hard work, and more attention to detail than anyone without children can begin to understand. Far from being an ego rub, for me this issue is a horrible warning - not against video games - against absentee parenting.



posted on May, 23 2006 @ 05:18 PM
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After 48 hours in a grown adult (2 days) the brain usually begins to manifest brainwaves, usually only occuring in REM (dreaming) sleep, while one is awake. Dreams are a by product of the brain sorting out information. This is why we must sleep. The effects become continually worse the longer one stays awake, eventually resulting in full on hallucinations as the brain is attempting to "refresh" its short term memory.

Consider: A 13 year old boy who's short term memory is filled only with Warcraft, suffering this effect....loses the game? Hmmm....

I cannot BELIEVE the parents thought this was ok. And for them to dare and blame the game manufacturers! Does the game control the player? Does the console affix their hands to the controller until the game is completed? I think not.



posted on Jun, 1 2006 @ 08:19 AM
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Suicide rates are soaring among children, a terrible indictment on modern society and its toxic systems and toys.

Since most families need to have two parents working over 80 hours a week, just to sustain themselves, and children of 13 are wiley about sneaking game time in, I think it's cruel and unfair to lay blame on the parents, who will spend the rest of their lives wishing they'd done more.

The fact is - internet and computer and video games have presented a new form of addiction into our culture. It is an organic brain disorder that is most similar to gambling addiction. Of all the addictions - gambling has the highest suicide rates. There is no chemical high or come down - the addiction is entrenched into the thinking and brain chemistry as a result of behaviour alone. A very hopeless and terrifying place for an addict to find themselves.

In addition, the medical industry is treating addiction with anti-depressants and SSRI's when the syndrome itself is more similar to the dysfunction that occurs in psychosis. Given that in North America, addicts are criminalized rather than treated - internet and game addiction is at a disadvantage for finding proper treatment.

I say kudos to the parents for seeking some larger social resolution and responsibility for what threatens to become a wide-spread tragedy. My heart breaks to think of a child lost in that world of lonely addiction - An army of angels to show him on his way and assuage his parents grief.

[edit on 1-6-2006 by clearwater]



posted on Jun, 1 2006 @ 02:12 PM
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I have to vouch though for the fact that social issues due not necessarily contribute fully to the issue. I played Everquest for 3 long years, and when I found I got far and lost something I worked hard to get, I found a feeling of depression. Not necessarily.. to the point where I'd commit suicide(!).. but was sad enough, but I'd just get up and go do something else.

The games are very addicting though, as for kids falling victim to suicide due to this.. BAD parenting. The same issue responsible for many other issue in today's society. They need more parental help classes. Helping parents being able to teach their kids responsibility, respect for one another, intelligence.. etc.

Bad parenting :-(



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