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Originally posted by dgtempe
Violent- yes, we are all prisoners now.
Originally posted by thermopolis
People, people, people................this "program started in 1997, was challenged all the way to US Supreme Court who ruled to OK..........
The "Pat act 1" also authorized this program............get a grip.
I hate BUSH but not for this.............
I guess some here never heard of the "Echelon" program. But what do ya do. People can think what they want.
May 12, 2006 — Americans by nearly a 2-1 ratio call the surveillance of telephone records an acceptable way for the federal government to investigate possible terrorist threats, expressing broad unconcern even if their own calling patterns are scrutinized.
Lending support to the administration's defense of its anti-terrorism intelligence efforts, 63 percent in this ABC News/Washington Post poll say the secret program, disclosed Thursday by USA Today, is justified, while far fewer, 35 percent, call it unjustified.
Phone-Records Surveillance Is Broadly Acceptable to Public
Originally posted by signs
What good is freedom to a dead man?
Is any of that info being used maliciously? How do you know that it isn't?
Of course they are listening and keeping track
I'm afraid voting, at least voting so that your vote counts is a thing of the past also.
It's nobody's business if you call Rosie's Massage Parlor
Why is it that the same people
Heck, the government should have just used them, much quicker and cheaper.
was that multiple private companies have just as much information available to them as the US government
Well, Lawsuits are out of the question.
Id say this is a best bet, assuming you can inform millions of people and get them to join you
Remember, this country was founded to free our citizens from oppression
November will be the litmus test
Originally posted by Seekerof
This is non-news and has been.
Those are instances of them listening in on calls by tapping switches. This is different, this is a datamining operation involving the turning over of phone logs by the telecos to the government, for all previous communication and updated regulalry. The form of the data being obtained now is completely different from any of the previous cases, and the sheer size of the datasets here is perhaps what's most disturbing. Its "total".
It is all part of the "Domestic Spying" scandal though, yes.
Originally posted by marg6043
Just to see our democracy crumble into ruins and our constitutional rights step and soiled make my eyes fill with tears.
What happening to our nation is just beyond explanation when it comes to our corrupted government and we know that our democratic systems is fix to help with this problem.
But whats happening with the people in our nation is what is worrying me the most, where are the outrage and cries and demands for justice are we so submissive that we can not see any evil?
To make this blatant take over of our constitutional rights we have our own elected President making sure that the people he surrounds himself with are going to do just what he wants.
Now the CIA appointee is nothing better than the same man that was behind the illegal surveillance while been a member of the NSA.
And by the standards of Bush supporters in these boards I am supouse to shut my mouth and behave like a good American.
What a shame.
How do we thwart complex terrorist attacks without looking through phone calls and internet traffic? Your thoughts now...
Originally posted by Nygdan
And that is the problem, that the information is beign used by the government. We have restrictions in law over what the government can do, because the government is an entirely different creature than some private company.
Originally posted by Nygdan
Unfortunately the american publicis just too pig stupid to see this as a problem.
Originally posted by WestPoint23
WTF? Anyone who does not see this as a problem is “pig stupid”? :shk: