NSA is keeping logs of phones calls in the US, page 1
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Topic started on 11-5-2006 @ 09:28 AM by Nygdan
The NSA has been collecting logs of phone calls in the US. The measure is normally prevented by law. The programme is a data-mining programme that compares records of who calls who, in order to reveal networks of individual citizens. Then, apparently, other intelligence, presumably nationally and internationally collected, is used to 'flag' these networks for further investigation or action.




www.usatoday.com
The National Security Agency has been secretly collecting the phone call records of tens of millions of Americans, using data provided by AT&T, Verizon and BellSouth. The NSA program reaches into homes and businesses across the nation by amassing information about the calls of ordinary Americans

"It's the largest database ever assembled in the world," said one person, who, like the others who agreed to talk about the NSA's activities, declined to be identified by name or affiliation. The agency's goal is "to create a database of every call ever made" within the nation's borders, this person added.



Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


The programme is illegal.

The administration has reported that it informed 'relevant' congresspersons, however, such a programme requires, minimally, that Congress approve it as a whole.

Listening in on phone calls to suspected terrorists, or even people suspected of association with suspected terrorists, makes a certain degree of sense, especially when you are in a state of war.

This does not make sense, this is not acceptable, this is illegal, this is wrong, and this is an excessive intrusion on personal privacy and individual rights.

We've already seen that AT&T is handing over bulk user internet data, who visits what sites, when they do, and who they communicate with, irrespective of even being suspected of association with terrorists.

We've already seen that there are questionably legal wiretapping programs listening in on, so we are assured, "only" international calls.

We have been continuously told, in blatant lies, that no such programmes exist, and each month another one is revealed. All the while, the clandestine and illegal spying on American citizens goes on, while new laws are bandied about to imprison people who have the sense to inform the public.


Related News Links:
www.usatoday.com
news.yahoo.com
www.epic.org
www.privacyrights.org

Related AboveTopSecret.com Discussion Threads:
ATS: AT&T Narus Collaboration Sent Your Private Internet Communications to The NSA
POLITICS: Bush Faces Republican Revolt Over Spying
1 in 5 Americans Think Feds Tapping Their Calls
POLITICS: New law would outlaw anyone revealing US eavesdropping programs


reply posted on 11-5-2006 @ 10:34 AM by valkeryie



reply posted on 11-5-2006 @ 10:47 AM by Simon_Boudreaux
I voted yes for this and I just read pretty much the same article on CNN.

The White House defended its overall eavesdropping program and said no domestic surveillance is conducted without court approval.


Um correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't there a big todo about this being done without court approval?

"The intelligence activities undertaken by the United States government are lawful, necessary and required to protect Americans from terrorist attacks," said Dana Perino, the deputy White House press secretary, who added that appropriate members of Congress have been briefed on intelligence activities.


So tens of millions of Americans are terrorist or in cahoots with terrorist?And only use the phone and internet to do this cahooting?

And who are the appropriate members of congress that were notified or briefed on these intelligence activities?Should congress as a whole be told?Shouldn't the American people be told?I for one am not amused that my phonecalls or internet activity has possibly been listened in on or even just the numbers I dialed recorded.

Sen. Patrick Leahy of Vermont said
"Are you telling me that tens of millions of Americans are involved with al Qaeda?" Leahy asked. "These are tens of millions of Americans who are not suspected of anything ... Where does it stop?"


The program does not involve listening to or taping the calls. Instead it documents who talks to whom in personal and business calls, whether local or long distance, by tracking which numbers are called, the newspaper said.


So I guess the feds have the al Qaeda white and yellow pages and just wants to make sure none of us Americans are calling them?

Welcome to the war on terror ladies and gentlemen...Don't worry if you aren't American then you have nothing to fear


Those of you that agree with this and will come on here to try and flame me or say I'm just paranoid...that's fine you have that right..But before you do think of it as you call your grandmother for that pie recipe..now its recorded that you called that number..or you call your doc to get some more cream to take care of that nasty rash and now that number you just dialed is recorded.Are you,your granny,or your doctor a terrorist?

To congress..It's nice to see you're actually taking an interest in the American people instead of sticking your fat noses into other countries' affairs for a change but this isn't exactly what the American people had in mind...If you continue to treat Americans like terrorist then sooner or later we will become your terrorist and nothing not even your Commander in chief who thinks that some god is on his side will be able to save you once you piss us off alittle more.But all this phone and internet monitoring tells me that you're already afraid of us.
Just remember we hired you just as easily as we can fire you..The choice will be yours as to how easy or hard you make it on yourselves when we come to fire you.

Simon


reply posted on 11-5-2006 @ 11:45 AM by Aelita
Guess what, participants of the Hannity rabid right wing forum are actually angry at Qwest for refusing to illegally eavesdrop on the citizens, and also angry at the papers who broke the story!
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