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Can IRAN use the USA's terminology to make a war with Israel LEGAL

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posted on May, 11 2006 @ 08:56 AM
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Just a different view on the situation...
The USA invaded and occupied IRAQ on the suspicion they had Chemical n Bio weapons...
The USA is demanding IRAN to hault its nuclear RESEARCH...
and its obvious if they dont, and even attempt nuclear weapons..
War will be declared...

The USA is using the excuse that these nations are THREATS, with bad weapons..

When this war comes.. and it will..

could the possible starting point..
be IRAN

declaring Israel a rogue regime, and a danger to peace, because it HAS nuclear weapons, and only yesterday declared it could wipe IRAN off the face of the map too..

Could the Iranian president challenege world opinion, but saying
' hey your superpower did it, why cant we defend ourselves against a WMD armed country, whom is a threat. '

I mean the USA didnt have the consent of the UN, which is still the governing body for peace on the planet earth...
the didnt even have consent from a LARGE percentage of the world globe...

So whats the difference in IRAN going against the UN, gaining SOME friends to join ' THEY'RE COALITION ' and pre-emptivley removing the threat?




posted on May, 11 2006 @ 09:51 AM
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Difference is that Iran wants to wipe out Israel off the map. Its not the same as regime change.



posted on May, 11 2006 @ 09:59 AM
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Heck, Iraq never was and never could be an actual threat to the US or even Europe.
The only country that Iraq and Iran could threaten and would threaten is Israel.

So in reallity, the US only attacked Iraq because it was suspect of having WMD's (although they knew the evidence making them suspect was forged)

So really, with the precedent set by the US, a country can attack another country for just suspecting it to have WMD's even if the country is a 3de world country at the other bloody side of the frigin world.



posted on May, 11 2006 @ 10:25 AM
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Why is it people do not pay any attention or do any type of research whatsoever?!?


Iraq was inviolation of the 1991 cease fire agreement and in violation of 17 UN resolutions, had also attacked it's neighbor Iran and invaded Kwait within a 10 year period.

Isreal does have the palenstein issuse....by have they threathen their neighbors? Have the illegally invaded their neighbors?

No. They haven't.

Also if Iran were to attack first (and not have nukes), I believe that Isreal would not only re-buff the attack but may just happen to vaporize a city or two. Not only that, but since Isreal is a US ally, then the US would be justified in attacking Iran.



posted on May, 11 2006 @ 06:42 PM
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Not really any difference, the Iranian president has clearly refered to the 'Israeli Regime' as being tyranical and that the political entity of 'Israel' must be wiped off the map and replaced by a different political entity..ie: one that better represents the people of Israel/Palestine. He never said all Jews must die or anything like that. He said if Jews want to have a 'Jewish State' then they should go somewhere else and do it there; implying that a Jewish Sate in Palestine is racist and unfair to the Palestinians..it oppresses the Palestinians so it is 'tyranical'.

The Americans/zionists are full of s when they say they don't seek to 'destroy' countries like Iraq or Iran..they no damn well that when you attack a country/occupy it, then the resulting massive nationalist guerilla war for independence will in effect destroy the country..they have destroyed Iraq and wish they could destroy Syria and Iran too but are unable to do so operation Destroy Iraq has swallowed up too much of their military resources and they are now treading water just to stay in control in Iraq.


Originally posted by deltaboy
Difference is that Iran wants to wipe out Israel off the map. Its not the same as regime change.



posted on May, 11 2006 @ 06:51 PM
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Isreal does have the palenstein issuse....by have they threathen their neighbors? Have the illegally invaded their neighbors?


Israel invaded all of its neighbors in the 1967 war occupying the Sinai, Gaza, the West Bank, and Golon heights.

Later Israel invaded and occupied southern Lebanon.

The threats from both sides have not ever ended.

Where do you get your version of history from?

[edit on 11-5-2006 by Malichai]



posted on May, 11 2006 @ 10:34 PM
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yes yes...but theres nothg being done abt it...or no one is able to do anything abt it...why is that?

is it because of the us? if so...then ask why does the us protect israel so much, do they have a lot of oil that the us needs? no/yes?

then what is the real reason behind the us/israel alliance? are us politicians "steered" by some magical powers for this to happen?

what would happen if the magical powers loses its influence?



posted on May, 12 2006 @ 12:33 AM
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Ferretman,

Israel ITSELF is an occupied land.
why is it legal for them to take palestinian land, call it there own, kill anyone that resists, and continually REDRAW the borders..

how in gods name can anyone say this is fair.

2ndly,

the no flyzone restrictions over iraq were impossed by the US and UK. It wasnt a UN governend event..

Both countries had heated rhetoric, both countries were attacking each other over 8/9 years..

its WRONG to place the blame on EITHER
because BOTH offered terms to end the war in different times, and both oppositions turned it down.


I love it, Israel has the palestinian issue.
Guess in 1943 we coulda said.. yeah germany has taht france, holland, poland, cheq, austrian, north african, italian ISSUE!!!

Israel, occupy land that isnt theres, kill people who dispute it, and continually REDRAW there borders for there own gain.

why is it ok for them?
Its not, the only reason the USA goes along with it, is because it was a BRITISH mandate, and that majority of the power positions in the USA system are jewish inclined.

And as for ISRAEL rebuffing the attack?.. I dont think so.
I beleive there's a large number of people INSIDE israel, with enough supplies to cause UTTER chaos should a war come.
Wether it be iranians, Iraqi's, palestinians or the boogey man ALQAEDA.
Israel would be hit from the air, from the borders, then from inside.

there only choice would be to FLASH fry other cities, ie Tehran.

and as soon as they nuke tehran, there goes the whole ball game folks.

Why should Israel have nuclear weapons, DENY IT
But iran cant scientifically evolve there nuclear ABILITY..

it doesnt make sense.

just the same way the iraqi PRE war intellegence and POST WAR lies dont make sense.

Who do you think is pulling the strings?



posted on May, 12 2006 @ 10:13 AM
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Take up the issue of Isreals creation with the UN. The UN gave the land to Isreal.

As far as taking land in the 6 day war.......who attacked who? The Arabs got their butt kicked after threathening Isreal. You should read some history books.



posted on May, 12 2006 @ 03:23 PM
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Originally posted by jajabinks
Not really any difference, the Iranian president has clearly refered to the 'Israeli Regime' as being tyranical and that the political entity of 'Israel' must be wiped off the map and replaced by a different political entity..ie: one that better represents the people of Israel/Palestine.




Only the political entity? Im certain he meant all of Israel.



posted on May, 12 2006 @ 04:51 PM
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Originally posted by Agit8dChop
And as for ISRAEL rebuffing the attack?.. I dont think so.

Israel would undoubtedly rebuff any land attack by Iran on Israel.




I beleive there's a large number of people INSIDE israel, with enough supplies to cause UTTER chaos should a war come.

Your belief is simply that: a unsupported belief.




Wether it be iranians, Iraqi's, palestinians or the boogey man ALQAEDA.

All three would be seriously defeated.




Israel would be hit from the air, from the borders, then from inside.

Israel would destroy Iran's air force and defeat any Iranian attempt to invade Israel.




there only choice would be to FLASH fry other cities, ie Tehran.

Hardly.




and as soon as they nuke tehran, there goes the whole ball game folks.

No nukes will be involved in kicking Iran's military back to Iran.





Why should Israel have nuclear weapons...

Why should Iran?
Which is a signatory of the NPT and which is not?




But iran cant scientifically evolve there nuclear ABILITY..

Get your facts straight, k, cause the issue here is not Iran being allowed a peaceful nuclear program--the issue here is that Iran's nuclear program has yet to been fully accounted for by the IAEA, as per their agreement under the NPT.




it doesnt make sense.

No, what does not make sense is how people twist the facts of the current situation.




just the same way the iraqi PRE war intellegence and POST WAR lies dont make sense.

Your complaint must be with the French, Israeli, the UK, the US, the IAEA, among other nations who seek full accountability of Iran's nuclear program?




Who do you think is pulling the strings?

Since you seem to have the gift of foresight, how about you enlighten us?







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