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Templars on Telly: Cover-Up!

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posted on May, 11 2006 @ 07:29 AM
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England's Channel 4 and ITN's news and crime correspondent Dan Rivers have teamed up to bring us yet another media cover-up concerning the Knights Templar. It's a whitewash but it's worth watching.

The 3-part documentary is going out across the UK on More4 next week, at 9pm on Monday 15th, Tuesday 16th and Wednesday 17th (to coincide with the hype around the general time of the release of the Da Vinci Code movie later in May.)

The first episode is about Secretive and Secret societies and features Ben Acheson, a Hertford resident with links to the Knights Templar, based in the ancient town. (The date for Easter was fixed there in 673 AD and Parliament was also held in the town during the plague.) Acheson is interviewed in Royston Cave but is literally cut off in the middle of speaking as he begins to explain the symbolism of the Grail and the Ark of the Covenant in relation to Saint Catherine.

Extensive and detailed documentary, archaeological and other evidence provided by local experts for the continuation of the Knights Templar after 1312 is not even mentioned as the documentary goes out of its way to trash the novel "The Da Vinci Code" and any notion of Secret Societies being interesting in any way.

One of the usual stuffy historians is wheeled out and Acheson is virtually cut off in mid speech as the programme cuts to the furious historian's fiery dismissal of what Acheson was about to say. The historian is clearly very angry about the challenge to the accepted wisdom that the Templars suddenly ceased to exist either on Friday 13th October 1307 or in 1312 when the Pope dissolved the order. But the majority of Templars survived the inquisition, which took almost 2 years to reach England's Templars. Royston Cave is just one fragment among a wealth of evidence that the Templars continued to meet in secret after the order was officially dissolved and it is clear that some continued to consider themselves Templar after they were pensioned into other monastic orders such as the Benedictines. (These were after all fearless warriors prepared to die for their organisation.) They left no convenient evidence for the historians because they wanted to leave no evidence. An already secretive group became an ultra-secret group. Angus Henderson, a researcher who was sacked from the production company Wildfire TV immediately after the programme was finished, has confirmed that Acheson sought to distinguish between the fiction of Da Vinci and the real themes surrounding the Holy Grail. But that didn't fit with the show's mission so his interview is cut and cut and cut again, his words cut and pasted to make it sound as though he agrees with the Da Vinci Code when the opposite was true.

Another gentleman, who has raised concerns about the Bilderberg Group - where the world's top politicians and business leaders meet in secret - is actually interrupted and accused of being a "paranoid lefty" by Dan Rivers!! Then, amid the usual spin and propaganda, Lord Healey of Riddlesden, a founder member of Bilderberg, casually admits that Bilderberg identifies future top politicians and seeks to "influence" them. (He refuses to admit that politicians are actually vetted by Bilderberg.) Watch this bit carefully!

The documentary is also going out on Channel4 itself later in the year but no date is scheduled yet. If you don't mind a large measure of propaganda and spin then it's definitely worth a look.

Monday 15th May 9pm on More4 in the UK -

Digital satellite:
Sky – Channel 142

More4+1 on digital satellite:
Sky – Channel 189

Freeview:
Channel 13

More4+1 on Freeview:
Channel 31

Cable:
ntl – Channel 166
Telewest – Channel 142


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posted on May, 11 2006 @ 07:41 AM
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As if this world needs another Whitewash.



posted on May, 11 2006 @ 09:59 AM
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The Times, Sky One, Channel 4, The Financial Times, etc., etc, have carried this story.

These are not amateurs and not easily hoodwinked. Could it be that actually there is something to all of this?

"In 2004 a press release was sent from a PO Box in Hertfordshire, purporting to be from the Templars and demanding a papal apology for the massacre of 1307. The Vatican said that the request was being given 'serious consideration'."

"Are the heirs to the Templar tradition to be found via a PO Box in Hertford?"

www.timesonline.co.uk...


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posted on May, 11 2006 @ 07:39 PM
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Originally posted by altus
The Times, Sky One, Channel 4, The Financial Times, etc., etc, have carried this story.

These are not amateurs and not easily hoodwinked. Could it be that actually there is something to all of this?

"In 2004 a press release was sent from a PO Box in Hertfordshire, purporting to be from the Templars and demanding a papal apology for the massacre of 1307. The Vatican said that the request was being given 'serious consideration'."

"Are the heirs to the Templar tradition to be found via a PO Box in Hertford?"

www.timesonline.co.uk...


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Would be quite fascinating if they were indeed still around, unbroken in line after all these years.

I honestly don't expect anything about the REALLY bad groups, like the Bilderbergers and Bohemian grove to be broadcast. Too close to the real power.

But the Templars, in my opinion, were a very admirable group who became victims of the insanity of the church. I do hope they still exist unbroken. The knowledge and wisdom they posses!



posted on May, 12 2006 @ 02:29 AM
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Rest assured that the Templars did continue in an unbroken line. In Hertfordshire there were riots when the local Templars were arrested. It was a natural safe-haven for the order throughout and beyond the persecution. This environment may have preserved some of the most important systems of knowledge of all time, systems of knowledge that the church tried very hard to stamp out.

Speaking of persecution, I've spoken in depth with a very worried and reluctant researcher, one Angus Henderson, who researched the documentary and was present during the filming.

He raised concerns with Wildfire TV that the evidence he'd produced for the Templar continuation was being ignored and worse some of it was actually being contradicted by the documentary - which clearly had its own agenda. Basically, as ordered by his boss, he told them things in relation to the Templars and Bilderberg and provided proof and the documentary ended up saying exactly the opposite. After raising these concerns Henderson was immediately sacked from Wildfire television and is now in fear for his safety if he talks about the experience. This is real life by the way, not the da vinci code.


On the subject of authenticity, what are your thoughts on the Grail everybody? Is it:


An artefact to be bought or sold or to preserve human meat for a few more years?

The bloodline of Christ as proposed in The da Vinci Code?

Symbolic of secret philosophical goal/ideal such as self-knowledge/knowledge of God that has been worked into fiction to preserve it?

Just a Masonic/Quasi-Masonic symbol used as a sort of bait?

Just a made up fragment of fiction?

Something altogether different?



posted on May, 12 2006 @ 02:47 AM
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Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
But the Templars, in my opinion, were a very admirable group who became victims of the insanity of the church. I do hope they still exist unbroken. The knowledge and wisdom they posses!


I thought the Templars were disbanded by Philip IV and the French Inquisition due to the debt he was in. I don't think they were that 'honourable' being heavily involved in banking (though they swore vows of poverty). Isn't it ironic that the destruction of the Knights Templar was aided by the very Church that created them?



posted on May, 12 2006 @ 03:15 AM
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The Templars were disbanded by the Pope in 1312. The persecution began on Friday 13th October 1307 when Philip IV conspired with the Pope to destroy the order. Likely reasons include Philip's massive debts to the order, the order's popularity with the people and the order's wealth and power and independance potentially rivalling the church itself.

The Templars were not involved with banking in the modern sense. They lent money to those who needed it, rich and poor alike, and did not charge interest. They looked after the people in the areas where they had bases.

It is indeed ironic that the church in a sense gave birth to the Templars and also destroyed the order. The Romanised church has not been well known for telling the truth over the years and the ludicrous charges trumped up against the Templars were astonishing. Vatican documents recently revealed that the church knew the Templars were innocent all along.

When the last French monarch lost his head, folklore has it that somebody in the crowd shouted, "Jacques de Molay, thou art avenged!"

But the Romanised church - the church whose men will snag upon the gates of heaven like a camel trying to pass through the eye of a needle because they drip with gold and finery; the church founded upon the empire that murdered Jesus and then altered and censored the Gospels to cover up their crimes (as well as the bits they didn't like); the church that abandoned the teachings of Christ and twisted Christianity into a tool for controlling the empire; the church that moved the centre of Christianity from Christ's homeland to the centre of its brutal Empire, the church that fabricated a farcical forgery of its descent from the original Christian movement - a movement that it actually crushed almost to death during the crusades... that church has yet to pay for its sins.

But God is patient, God sees and knows all, and from his blazing eye nothing is hidden.

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posted on May, 12 2006 @ 08:46 AM
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first The KT were answerable to only one man on earth The Pope, beyond that
they were a law unto themselves.

Next according to history there were 3-4 reasons Phillippe "had a hardon for the Templars.
1 to finance his wars with England he was heavily in deb. some say virtually bankrupt.
2 He had applied to the order for membership and been refused.
3 during riots in Paris he had been forced to seek shelter and protection within the
walls of the Temple Paris for several days.

A year before his attack on the Templars he had pulled off a similar " raid" on french jews, deporting all of them and converting their assets to the crown. All monies owed them were to be paid to the crown,"toot sweet". all monies owed by them were forfeited.

A second event that in all likelyhood had a great effect on his actions was the death of EdwardI .

It was only in France that the majority of Templars were arrested and tortured.
In England as I recall the # was less than 20 many of whom escaped. In Germany
They were judged innocent with many joining their sister order The Teutonic Knights.
In Spain and Portugal they were also Judged innocent and freed simply changing their name to the Knights of Christ. It was as I recall under this flag that Chris sailed, his FiL being a KiC GM.

As Robert the Bruce was at the time excommunicate, along with the entire country
the order was not ever read in Scotland.



posted on May, 12 2006 @ 10:54 AM
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Indeed, in England the Templars were relatively unmolested. The so-called experts on the Templars who write books about them seem only interested in the order in France and the Holy Land. They also had a strong presence in Britain and they had no good reason to stop getting together with just a little additional secrecy.

en.wikipedia.org...



posted on May, 12 2006 @ 12:28 PM
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On the subject of authenticity, what are your thoughts on the Grail everybody? Is it:

An artefact to be bought or sold or to preserve human meat for a few more years?

The bloodline of Christ as proposed in The da Vinci Code?

Symbolic of secret philosophical goal/ideal such as self-knowledge/knowledge of God that has been worked into fiction to preserve it?

Just a Masonic/Quasi-Masonic symbol used as a sort of bait?

Just a made up fragment of fiction?

Something altogether different?


1. No. If it were that, I think it'd be much more widely known than it is.
2. Maybe. An interesting conceit. But I don't really buy into it.
3. Most likely of the presented options. Heaven know that stories are the best way to
preserve and underlying truth
4. Rather doubtful
5. Even more doubtful

Inasmuch as Christianity (like most religions) is based on faith which we can't touch, intellectually rationalise or otherwise prove, I rather doubt that the Son of God would leave behind documentable talismans of his existence. Sort of defeats the need for faith.



posted on May, 12 2006 @ 02:06 PM
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Does anyone know if this is airing in America at all. i would love to watch it. Let us know please.



posted on May, 13 2006 @ 12:44 PM
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It may end up airing in the States. I may be able to get you a copy.

But it's mostly worth watching to appreciate how much the media is controlled.

I've spoken in depth with a rather worried and reluctant researcher, one Angus Henderson, who researched the documentary and was present during the filming.

He raised concerns with Wildfire TV that the evidence he'd produced for the Templar continuation was being ignored and worse some of it was actually being contradicted by the documentary - which clearly had its own agenda. Basically, as ordered by his boss, he told them things in relation to the Templars and Bilderberg and provided proof and the documentary ended up saying exactly the opposite. After raising these concerns Henderson was immediately sacked from Wildfire television and is now in fear for his safety if he talks about the experience. This is real life by the way, not the da vinci code.

Freemasonry is portrayed as a harmless group of friendly fathers with the odd quirk when there are endless stories about Masonic corruption in the judicial system. The Bilderberg Group is portrayed as powerless when it is comprised of the world's most powerful men. The Templars are portrayed as extinct when they have clearly been active in England ever since the official dissolution.

These are precisely the perceptions that those organisations want us to have about them. People like Henderson, Acheson and the numerous other people who helped with this documentary in good faith had their words and evidence twisted and spun and steamrollered over in order to get across the message that the Secret Societies are benign and boring - possibly even non-existent - and should be ignored and forgotten.

It would appear therefore that the opposite may be the case.



posted on May, 13 2006 @ 02:25 PM
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Alive and well. Don't worry, the world we see the great work one day soon.



posted on May, 13 2006 @ 05:20 PM
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Well I (declair) it looks like from your post ,prophesy to fruition,some of the secrets will soon be made known. here,s hoping. 8>)

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