Originally posted by MrPenny

Originally posted by rich23
100% think that UFOs are not, in the main, ET craft BUT also
100% think that the USG has retro-engineered UFOs.

This has changed since you posted it I'm sure.

It is the first thing I noticed about some of the responses and it struck me how some respondents said NO, UFOs are not alien, but YES, the guv'mint is in possession of UFO (alien) technology. WTF?

How odd that people could hold such completely contrary viewpoints.

Yes, it has changed, but it is interesting, isn't it? I'm hoping that as more people view this thread we'll see some more anomalies like this cropping up. Where are your answers, then?

1. Is the US government's official story about 9/11 to be believed? Yes

2. Are UFOs (in the main) real craft piloted by extraterrestrials? Don't know

3. Did Apollo 11 land on the moon? Yes

4. Do the Illuminati run the planet? No

5. Did the CIA kill JFK? Don't Know

6. Is global warming real, and caused by human-made pollution? Don't know

7. Does the US government possess retro-engineered alien craft? No

8. Is there a conspiracy to suppress discoveries in 'free energy'? No

9. Were the anthrax attacks shortly after 9/11 a government PSYOPs ploy? No

10 Does the US government traffic in drugs? Yes

1. Is the US government's official story about 9/11 to be believed? Somewhat.

2. Are UFOs (in the main) real craft piloted by extraterrestrials? Sometimes

3. Did Apollo 11 land on the moon? Yes

4. Do the Illuminati run the planet? NO

5. Did the CIA kill JFK? ??? Undecided.

6. Is global warming real, and caused by human-made pollution? It's real, not sure how or why.

7. Does the US government possess retro-engineered alien craft? No

8. Is there a conspiracy to suppress discoveries in 'free energy'? Yes

9. Were the anthrax attacks shortly after 9/11 a government PSYOPs ploy? NO

10 Does the US government traffic in drugs? NO

Here are my opinions

1. Is the US government's official story about 9/11 to be believed? N

2. Are UFOs (in the main) real craft piloted by extraterrestrials? Y

3. Did Apollo 11 land on the moon? DK

4. Do the Illuminati run the planet? Y

5. Did the CIA kill JFK? DK

6. Is global warming real, and caused by human-made pollution? Y

7. Does the US government possess retro-engineered alien craft? Y

8. Is there a conspiracy to suppress discoveries in 'free energy'? Y

9. Were the anthrax attacks shortly after 9/11 a government PSYOPs ploy? Y

10 Does the US government traffic in drugs? Y

So far, of 14 posts (CelticMist being the latest viewed)


1. Is the US government's official story about 9/11 to be believed? N=12, Y=2

2. Are UFOs (in the main) real craft piloted by extraterrestrials? Y=8, DK=2, N=4

3. Did Apollo 11 land on the moon? Y=9, N=3, DK=1

4. Do the Illuminati run the planet? Y=6, N=8

5. Did the CIA kill JFK? Y=7 N=1, DK=6

6. Is global warming real, and caused by human-made pollution? Y=9, DK=3, N=2

7. Does the US government possess retro-engineered alien craft? Y=8, DK=1, N=5

8. Is there a conspiracy to suppress discoveries in 'free energy'? Y=12, DK=2

9. Were the anthrax attacks shortly after 9/11 a government PSYOPs ploy? Y=8, DK=1, N=5

10. Does the US government traffic in drugs? Y=12, DK=2


With our entirely limited sample so far, the most agreement seems to be that the official 9/11 story is untrustworthy, that there is a conspiracy to suppress free energy, and that the US government deals drugs.

I'm sure this will change as time goes on.

[edit on 11-5-2006 by rich23]

1. Is the US government's official story about 9/11 to be believed?

Somewhat

2. Are UFOs (in the main) real craft piloted by extraterrestrials?

Yes. Only fools believe we are alone in the universe.

3. Did Apollo 11 land on the moon?

Yes

4. Do the Illuminati run the planet?

Possibly

5. Did the CIA kill JFK?

Yes

6. Is global warming real, and caused by human-made pollution?

Yes

7. Does the US government possess retro-engineered alien craft?

Probably

8. Is there a conspiracy to suppress discoveries in 'free energy'?

Yes

9. Were the anthrax attacks shortly after 9/11 a government PSYOPs ploy?

Unknown

10 Does the US government traffic in drugs?

Possibly. Good source of black revenue.

[edit on 5/11/2006 by Bibliophile]

1. Is the US government's official story about 9/11 to be believed?NO

2. Are UFOs (in the main) real craft piloted by extraterrestrials? DK

3. Did Apollo 11 land on the moon?YES

4. Do the Illuminati run the planet?NO

5. Did the CIA kill JFK?DK

6. Is global warming real, and caused by human-made pollution?YES

7. Does the US government possess retro-engineered alien craft?DK

8. Is there a conspiracy to suppress discoveries in 'free energy'?DK

9. Were the anthrax attacks shortly after 9/11 a government PSYOPs ploy?DK

10 Does the US government traffic in drugs? DK

Don't know, don't know, don't know,...makes me feel like an ignoramus.

1. Is the US government's official story about 9/11 to be believed?

No

2. Are UFOs (in the main) real craft piloted by extraterrestrials?

No

3. Did Apollo 11 land on the moon?

Yes

4. Do the Illuminati run the planet?

No

5. Did the CIA kill JFK?

Don't know

6. Is global warming real, and caused by human-made pollution?

Yes / It's a contributory factor

7. Does the US government possess retro-engineered alien craft?

No

8. Is there a conspiracy to suppress discoveries in 'free energy'?

Maybe

9. Were the anthrax attacks shortly after 9/11 a government PSYOPs ploy?

Maybe

10 Does the US government traffic in drugs?

Probably

1. Is the US government's official story about 9/11 to be believed? N

2. Are UFOs (in the main) real craft piloted by extraterrestrials? N

3. Did Apollo 11 land on the moon? Y

4. Do the Illuminati run the planet? N

5. Did the CIA kill JFK? N

6. Is global warming real, and caused by human-made pollution? Y

7. Does the US government possess retro-engineered alien craft? N

8. Is there a conspiracy to suppress discoveries in 'free energy'? Y

9. Were the anthrax attacks shortly after 9/11 a government PSYOPs ploy? Y

10 Does the US government traffic in drugs? Y

1. Is the US government's official story about 9/11 to be believed? N

2. Are UFOs (in the main) real craft piloted by extraterrestrials? N

3. Did Apollo 11 land on the moon? N

4. Do the Illuminati run the planet? Y

5. Did the CIA kill JFK? Y

6. Is global warming real, and caused by human-made pollution? Y

7. Does the US government possess retro-engineered alien craft? Y

8. Is there a conspiracy to suppress discoveries in 'free energy'? Y

9. Were the anthrax attacks shortly after 9/11 a government PSYOPs ploy? Y

10 Does the US government traffic in drugs? Y

For what its worth.

1. Is the US government's official story about 9/11 to be believed? NO


2. Are UFOs (in the main) real craft piloted by extraterrestrials? YES


3. Did Apollo 11 land on the moon? YES


4. Do the Illuminati run the planet? NO


5. Did the CIA kill JFK? YES


6. Is global warming real, and caused by human-made pollution? YES /YES


7. Does the US government possess retro-engineered alien craft? YES


8. Is there a conspiracy to suppress discoveries in 'free energy'? NO


9. Were the anthrax attacks shortly after 9/11 a government PSYOPs ploy? NO


10 Does the US government traffic in drugs? DK

I'll post the "Yes" or "No" first to each question, then qualify my answers if I feel they need to be.

Originally posted by rich23
1. Is the US government's official story about 9/11 to be believed?

No.

It would be naive to assume the Government told us everything, or that everything they told us was entirely truthful. It's possible, however, that it was what the nation needed to hear at the time.

Originally posted by rich23
2. Are UFOs (in the main) real craft piloted by extraterrestrials?

No.

I think people don't give our aerospace defense contractors enough credit for creativity.

Originally posted by rich23
3. Did Apollo 11 land on the moon?

Yes.

Originally posted by rich23
4. Do the Illuminati run the planet?

No.

Originally posted by rich23
5. Did the CIA kill JFK?

No.

Originally posted by rich23
6. Is global warming real, and caused by human-made pollution?

Yes.

Pretty sure I've conclusively proven (at least to myself) that global warming is a natural occurrance based on Orbital Eccentricity of the Earth. If we sped-up the process it was only by a couple of hundred years. We were due for a major climatic shift anyway.

Originally posted by rich23
7. Does the US government possess retro-engineered alien craft?

No.

Just very scarily advanced terran craft.

Originally posted by rich23
8. Is there a conspiracy to suppress discoveries in 'free energy'?

No.

People have yet to realize you can't get something for nothing.

Originally posted by rich23
9. Were the anthrax attacks shortly after 9/11 a government PSYOPs ploy?

No.

I'm pretty sure they had better things to do.

Originally posted by rich23
10 Does the US government traffic in drugs?

No.

Not officially, any more than Mexico, Cuba, or Columbia does...officially.

So far, of 19 posts (DGTempe being the latest viewed)


1. Is the US government's official story about 9/11 to be believed? N=16, Y=3

2. Are UFOs (in the main) real craft piloted by extraterrestrials? Y=9, DK=3, N=7

3. Did Apollo 11 land on the moon? Y=14, N=3, DK=2

4. Do the Illuminati run the planet? Y=7, N=11, DK=1

5. Did the CIA kill JFK? Y=7 N=1, DK=6

6. Is global warming real, and caused by human-made pollution? Y=14, DK=3, N=2

7. Does the US government possess retro-engineered alien craft? Y=10, DK=2, N=7

8. Is there a conspiracy to suppress discoveries in 'free energy'? Y=13, DK=4

9. Were the anthrax attacks shortly after 9/11 a government PSYOPs ploy? Y=10, DK=4, N=5

10. Does the US government traffic in drugs? Y=15, DK=4

1. Is the US government's official story about 9/11 to be believed? NO

2. Are UFOs (in the main) real craft piloted by extraterrestrials? jury is still out on this one, dont know

3. Did Apollo 11 land on the moon? yes

4. Do the Illuminati run the planet? yes

5. Did the CIA kill JFK? yes

6. Is global warming real, and caused by human-made pollution? "caused' no, "exagerrated" yes

7. Does the US government possess retro-engineered alien craft? yes

8. Is there a conspiracy to suppress discoveries in 'free energy'? yes

9. Were the anthrax attacks shortly after 9/11 a government PSYOPs ploy? no

10 Does the US government traffic in drugs? yes

I obviously need to keep saying this...

This thread is about the statistics of what ATSers believe about particular issues, hot-button topics if you will. Qualifying your replies is off topic and replying in other than the standard format just makes it more of a pain to collate.

Be nice. Start other threads if you want (this thread may have sparked one already).

Originally posted by rich23

> 1. Is the US government's official story about 9/11 to be believed?

Some of it. They've covered up a lot to hide their general incompetence.

> 2. Are UFOs (in the main) real craft piloted by extraterrestrials?

No. Most are natural phenonena, or real craft piloted by Air Force officers.

> 3. Did Apollo 11 land on the moon?

Yeah.

> 4. Do the Illuminati run the planet?

Not all of it.

> 5. Did the CIA kill JFK?

No, but they didn't do a lot to stop it, either.

> 6. Is global warming real, and caused by human-made pollution?

Yes, and some of it.

> 7. Does the US government possess retro-engineered alien craft?

No. If they have alien craft, they haven't figured out how they work yet.

> 8. Is there a conspiracy to suppress discoveries in 'free energy'?

No.

> 9. Were the anthrax attacks shortly after 9/11 a government PSYOPs ploy?

No. It was probably the Tylenol killer up to his old tricks again.

> 10 Does the US government traffic in drugs?

Not officially, but there are some occasions where individual agencies do it to maintain cover and to raise money to buy guns to exchange for hostages.

1.Is the US government's official story about 9/11 to be believed?
No

2.Are UFOs (in the main) real craft piloted by extraterrestrials
Yes

3.Did Apollo 11 land on the moon?
Yes

4. Do the Illuminati run the planet?
Yes

5. Did the CIA kill JFK?
Yes

6. Is global warming real, and caused by human-made pollution?
No

7. Does the US government possess retro-engineered alien craft?
Yes

8. Is there a conspiracy to suppress discoveries in 'free energy'?
Yes

9. Were the anthrax attacks shortly after 9/11 a government PSYOPs ploy?
Yes

10 Does the US government traffic in drugs?
Yes

I'm not making much headway here, am I? (see previous post)

1. Is the US government's official story about 9/11 to be believed?

Not in its entirety. There are some truths, but too many errors, falsehoods and ommisions to be taken as credible.

2. Are UFOs (in the main) real craft piloted by extraterrestrials?

Impossible to answer. I have not seen proof that they are, and until I do, I will remain a skeptic. I would like to believe so, but cannot at this time.

3. Did Apollo 11 land on the moon?

Yes.

4. Do the Illuminati run the planet?

No.

5. Did the CIA kill JFK?

Either directly or indirectly, some sort of involvment.

6. Is global warming real, and caused by human-made pollution?

Yes

7. Does the US government possess retro-engineered alien craft?

See answer to #2

8. Is there a conspiracy to suppress discoveries in 'free energy'?

Free? Probably not. Cheaper and better? Probably

9. Were the anthrax attacks shortly after 9/11 a government PSYOPs ploy?

Yes

10 Does the US government traffic in drugs?

Yes

Originally posted by rich23
This thread is about the statistics of what ATSers believe about particular issues, hot-button topics if you will. Qualifying your replies is off topic and replying in other than the standard format just makes it more of a pain to collate.

Sorry, didn't notice this when I posted. However, some of the questions, in my opinion, cannot be answered with a simple Y or N.