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Originally posted by Justin OldhamBoth leaders are convinced of their future victories, based upon their preferred religious writings.
Originally posted by Low OrbitThe Bush Administration have made it a point on many occasions not to drag religion into this and make it Christians vs. Muslims. I can not say the same about the Iranians.
What I believe is one of the core problems is what Islam's Mullahs teach about the West. If we are serious about stopping terrorism we need to stop these schools from teaching its students to hate the west.
Originally posted by apocalypticon
Can the representatives of two groups of peoples, both of which groups contain elements whose real worldview includes violent apocalypticism, and whose leaders themselves may hold these same beliefs, find a way to arrive at any solution which doesn't move them further towards mutual destruction?
Originally posted by Justin Oldham
I can't speak for Muslim countries, but I do have a few things to say about the United States. I recently published a book, "Politics & Patriotism," (snip) in which I made my case for what could happen if the extremists get their way in America. Even in our own case, it comes down to reform or revolt.
Originally posted by Brenden
New York Sun Editorial
May 11, 2006
President Ahmadinejad's letter to President Bush, widely interpreted as a peaceful overture, is in fact a declaration of war. The key sentence in the letter is the closing salutation. In an eight-page text of the letter being circulated by the Council on Foreign Relations, it is left untranslated and rendered as "Vasalam Ala Man Ataba'al hoda." What this means is "Peace only unto those who follow the true path."
It is a phrase with historical significance in Islam, for, according to Islamic tradition, in year six of the Hejira - the late 620s - the prophet Mohammad sent letters to the Byzantine emperor and the Sassanid emperor telling them to convert to the true faith of Islam or be conquered. The letters included the same phrase that President Ahmadinejad used to conclude his letter to Mr. Bush. For Mohammad, the letters were a prelude to a Muslim offensive, a war launched for the purpose of imposing Islamic rule over infidels.
Originally posted by Saphronia I'm definitely jaded when it comes to Washington. The whole place has rabies or some other rabid infectious disease that causes psychosis.
For a country really seeking a diplomatic solution this letter would be an opening to get out there and start a dialogue with Iran about the "philosophical" difference and our religions
The Bush administration wasn't expecting that letter from the Iranians. They weren't happy at all to see it. In the world of politics and diplomacy, it's not what it is...but...what it looks like. Ahmedinajad LOOKS like he's offering an olive branch, and that's what has so many people upset.
Originally posted by Low Orbit
you guys are right, if Iran or anyone for that matter wants to have nukes we should let them have it.
Ever since the Nuke, Warfare has changed. St. Augustine's Just War Theory needs to be revised because of this new mass-destructive weapon.
Originally posted by Low OrbitIt is not "apocalyptic expectation" that are coloring the decision-making process, it is the real understanding of the destruction caused by one or two nukes.
When we invaded Iraq, Saddam was seen as the biggest mouth in the Middle East. At the time, he was the most unstabilizing factor in the Middle East.
Where are the weapon's of Mass Destruction, who knows, ask Saddam, Im sure he could tell you. THE WAR IN IRAQ WASN'T A GIANT EASTER EGG HUNT!!! SADDAM WAS APPARENTLY BLUFFING ABOUT THEM, WE CALLED HIS BLUFF!
Do you know the history of Iraq and its leaders?
Although many Iraqis are still worse off today than they were before the war began, many of them now see a brighter tomorrow where in the past there was no future for them.
However, Muslims in Afghanistan and Iraq seem be getting a stronger sense of nationalism and this is helping them to defend their country from foreigners.
If we could replace Islamic Fanaticism with a strong sense of Nationalism the Middle East will be on its way back to prosperity again.
The world will see sanctions against Iran as a final olive branch to be accepted by the Iranians.
However, if Iran still pursues nuclear technology even with sanctions in place then the Free World will have no choice but to destroy(attempt to) their Nuke Facilities.
Originally posted by sweatmonicaIdo
I was hardly surprised, but the U.S. government's response to the the letter by the Iranian president further convinces me that the U.S. government needs/wants a war with Iran and will do anything to get it.