I am sorry, but I have another individual that requested the following be posted in here, and I do not wish to loose your premise of a question. I ensure you both my and my adversary, will remain polite and be addressing facts within your topic. I think in the grand scheme of things, we will be getting this back to your point in a timely fashion
The points that follow, was in a result of sheer frustration in seeing responses of uneducated individuals assumng the matter of the Palestinians and Israel is and always was, as is played out in the Media.
Posted in a volitile page by Shane and moved here as requested.
This Elitist Liberal Dribble is becoming quite amusing. Enlightened, Knowledgeable, and Wishing to not knowingly spread false information. Ha! I guess that was thrown out the window in this Topic.
Lets for one dismiss this notion that Israel uprooted masses of peoples.
Is a guy named Mark Twain known to any of you? Mark Twain visited Jerusalem and the area in the 1860's and wrote in his book "The Innocents Abroad". Buy his book and read it.
His remarks, of the region?
"A desolate country whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds"
"hardly a tree or shrub anywhere. Even the olive tree and the cactus, those fast friends of a worthless soil, had almost deserted the country."
"a silent mournful expanse"
"we never saw a human being on the whole route"
"a desolation"
Masses of Arab's? Funny In the 1900's, the area had a population totaling 120000 Arabs, that covered Israel Proper, and 600000 Arabs if including the West Bank and Jordan (According to the Ottomans). Most of which did not even live in Palestine, but in other areas. The Land was purchased from these Migrant Owners, and at a premium rate. The influx of wandering Arab's started to arrive once the Balfour Declaration was in it's infancy, and just prior to the State or Israel. They were seeking Medical Assistance and Opportunities for Advancment. Israel was clearing Swamp Land, and began agricultural farming, bringing more Arab's into the area. All these poor displaced people, we forget never lived there anyways
Oh, and this is good to. Are their any Arabs Speaking people here who would wish to confirm or deny this. Exactly what does the Word Palestine mean? All Arab words have meanings and most are based from the Koran. Where did this word ever come from?? Certainly not Arabs.
And to that matter, the Arab States had generally regarded Palestine as part of Syria, until late the last century.
But who gave this area this name?? The Romans and it was as an Insult against the Jew's who stood against the Holy Roman Empire. The word actually derived from Israel's worst Enemy, the Philistines, but evenually changed to Palaistaina, and further to become Palestine.
To further this premise try this:
Exactly who ran the Palestine Post for all those years?
Exactly who played in the Palestine Orchestra?
And I wonder who made up the Palestine Brigade Regiment?
Arab's? Well surprise, it was the our Jewish Brother.
Until this century, Palestine was a word which refered to the Jews.
And this is just a Tipped of FACT in respects to this matter.
It doesn't even account for Jews have always lives in Israel since it 1st became a nation.
It doesn't even account they have a Kingdom Claim dating back 3500 Years.
It doesn't even account the Original inhabitants are all long dead and buried cultures. (Philistines, Phoencians, Canaanites and none where Arabs)
Anyone who wishes, I'd be pleased to educate you on this, in it's own Topic.
But you are being fed a line of crap from Revisionist Historians and the MSM, and unfortunately, you seem to be enjoying the meal.
Ignorance is Bliss is a better term to use for the degenerating topic. This in a site that the emphasis is on, Ignorance Denied. Strange how that works isn't it.
And Agian, to the Topic, do none of you care that a Terrorist State and a Sponsor of Terrorists, will be getting Nukes? Wakeup people. Get your heads out of the Fuzzy Speak, and use some common sense.
Ciao
Shane
Back to the Now, and as I noted Crackity, is was a Volitile Topic originally discussing the Iran Nukem, Israel Nukem aspects of political life. That's back to the point of the last line noted. The topic, unfortunately degenerated into a free for all.
I expect my friend should arrive at some point, and please feel free to jump in and offer your thoughts as they may arise, or direct us, if we seem to be incorrect on matters.
Of course, others are also welcomed, but be civil. I have no problem with my Arab Cousins, and I have no problems with my Jewish brothers. It's the BS that is the Problem.
Ciao
Shane
