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reply posted on 4-7-2006 @ 01:19 PM by bg_socalif
Originally posted by SMR
Phenomena produce theories, but no answers
By Alex Roth
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

April 23, 2006
Life can serve up a good mystery every once in a while. Weird things happen that defy explanation, that make us wonder how much we really know about the world.
Something of the sort happened in San Diego County shortly before 9 a.m. Tuesday, April 4, and so far no one has come forward with an explanation.

Whatever it was, it caused a woman's bed to shake in Lakeside. It created waves in a backyard pool in Carmel Valley. It set off car alarms in Kearny Mesa and rattled windows from Mission Beach to Poway to Vista. At various spots throughout the county, people reported a rumbling sound or a booming noise.
Scientists insist it wasn't an earthquake. The Federal Aviation Administration has no record of any planes producing a sonic boom by breaking the sound barrier.

Camp Pendleton officials say no activities on the Marine base could have created such a disturbance. There were no large explosions in San Diego County that day, and no meteor fireballs were reported in the sky that morning.

What was it, then?



“My garage door is double steel and it weighs about 500 lbs. It was rattling back and forth like a leaf in the wind for about 3 or 4 seconds.”
– e-mail from University City resident on April 4 disturbance

SOURCE and more to article

Mystery disturbance traced to sound wave


Scripps scientists say it traveled over the ocean to desert
By Alex Roth
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

April 27, 2006
A group of local scientists has uncovered some clues to the source of a mysterious disturbance that rattled San Diego County on the morning of April 4, shaking windows, doors and bookcases from the coast to the mountains.

The scientists, based at Scripps Institution of Oceanography in La Jolla, say the disturbance was caused by a sound wave that started over the ocean and petered out over the Imperial County desert. Using data from more than two dozen seismometers, they traced its likely origin to a spot roughly 120 miles off the San Diego coast.
That spot is in the general vicinity of Warning Area 291, a huge swath of ocean used for military training exercises. The Navy operates a live-fire range on San Clemente Island, which is within Warning Area 291 and sits about 65 miles from Mission Bay.

The researchers also have charted dozens of similar, if less dramatic, incidents that seem to have originated in the same general area of the ocean. They aren't sure what caused any of them.

Peter Shearer, a Scripps professor involved in the research, has no idea whether the April 4 disturbance was natural or made by humans.



Steve Fiebing, a Coronado-based Navy spokesman, said the live-fire range on San Clemente Island was inactive April 4. He also said there was no Navy or Marine Corps flight activity in Warning Area 291 on that day that would have caused a sonic boom or a countywide tremor.

The area, also known in military circles as Whiskey 291, covers 1 million square miles and is off-limits to civilian planes and ships, Fiebing said.

“There was no unusual training that would have caused anything close to what people here felt,” he said.

Cmdr. William Fenick, another local Navy spokesman, said no San Diego-based warships were conducting operations in Warning Area 291 that day.



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reply posted on 4-7-2006 @ 01:35 PM by bg_socalif
An interesting thing is, we have this sorta HAARP thing in San Diego.Along Imperial Beach strand you can view this huge structure of antena.Here is a Google Maps shot you can zoom in on.Not much you can see from there, but here is an image to give you an idea.




This is/was known as AN/FRD-10 CLASSIC BULLSEYE which was shut down in the 1990's


The mission was completely shutdown in '99. I had the "honor" of being part of the crew that removed all the equipment in the building and "de-SCIF'd" it, along with standing security watch in the empty building until it was finished being "de-SCIF'd". The command moved to North Island NAS up the strand.

It was "fun" being the Watch Officer on duty there sometimes. Especially when the dead bodies and raw sewage from Mexico would wash up on shore.

what could it be being used for now?


NOTHING, last i saw in 2005. The gates were padlocked. The buildings were empty and padlocked. Navy security still made security rounds. The beach was also used by drug dealers and for deliveries.


reply posted on 4-7-2006 @ 02:40 PM by Spiderj
Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
People for years in L.A. have been reporting "skyquakes" which has led to speculation about the Aurora. Its worth nothing that L.A. and sometimes San Diego are under the flightpaths used by Area 51 when testing the goods.


That's a good point. I live in the fairfax area....native los angelino...and over the past six months there have been a couple of odd incidents.

About five months ago, pretty sure it was a friday night there were a succession of about thirty(maybe less but definitely between twenty and thirty) very loud booms.

They repeated a few in a row then a pause sometimes staccato, very close together sometimes spread out in their repeating pattern and this went on for at least an hour. Nothing shook and it certainly didn't sound or feel like an earthquake. Again I'm born and raised in L.A. and definitely know what an earthquake or tremor feels like.

Anyway, I just thought it was odd. Perhaps construction/demolition but there wasn't a peep about it on the news and in L.A. we love explosions and car chases those are always covered by the news.

Still just filed it away as an oddity. It then happend again but to a much lesser extent about two months ago same boom sounds but again way less like only five or six.

Both times the sounds seemed to come from the west, santa monica perhaps even further out.

If there are any other los angelinos reading this perhaps they remember the incident and actually have an explanation.

Don't know if what something simple that I missed. But again a big set explosion wether for a film or construction would have made the local news especially something that big, but there wasn't a peep.

They sound like two different events because it was just noise no tremors but perhaps in some way related.

Very interesting thread.

Spiderj


reply posted on 19-7-2006 @ 06:08 PM by Vis Major X
Think about all the stories of "strange booms" or "machine noises" coming from all over the US since 9-11. Then there were even just the general stories about the higher ups like for perfect example the Vice Prez building underground bunkers.

There is a really simple answer to all of this.

It also ties together a bunch of loose ends in the giant conspiracy itself.

The US Gov is building all sorts of underground networks and bunkers. BIG DEEP ONES... because it fully expects to get nuked.

And I mean THE ENTIRE US GOVERNMENT itself. This is why there is no democratic party rising up against the republicans in just about every aspect of the Bush administration. This is why there is no real investigation in to the disasters that have happened to the US, including the financial one (they knew that was coming).

All of the elites in the gov made a deal to save their own asses. This is why some are in on it and others they killed off like Paul Wellstone. I mean its just so damn obvious is it not?

They can impeach Clinton over a blow job but what Bush has done hasn't been investigated in the least? People got promoted when they screwed up on 9-11?


This is also why a lot of people had to "die" on 9-11 .. those people are not dead at all. They are in the bunkers, and if you examine the passenger list for flight 77, they are JUST the people you would want in a bunker during a war in the first place. Some peoples loved ones have been stashed away there like Barbera Olson for example.

This is why you should be worried that we will NOT get through to the next election. There will not be one, because who ever gets in will find out all the stuff that was done during this administration and freek out.


Anyways, I thought it was easy to see.


-VMX


reply posted on 19-7-2006 @ 06:46 PM by Tom Bedlam
Personally, I nominate Taco Bell as the root cause.

If you go back and read the official responses, they're incredibly specific. I usually see the PR officers do that in order to mislead without overtly lying. Not that they won't just lie their asses off too, but a lot of times they try to make their lives more interesting and enjoyable by telling you the literal truth and letting you draw the wrong conclusion.

You'll see a lot of "it was nothing the Marines were doing" "there were no supersonic Navy aircraft in the area" etc, take it as being literally true. If no Navy aircraft were in the area, then whose were? Notice that they did not say NO aircraft of any sort were in the area.

This opens it up to a lot of interpretation. Such as, were any aerospace vehicles reentering over the restricted area. Or perhaps, what sort of Naval vessels were in the area at the time.

While I don't hold out much in the way of belief in sound waves causing earthquakes, one might ask our Navy brethren about tightly directed shock waves being used, for example, to disrupt the cavitation bubble around supersonic torpedoes, or as the little rumor mill grinds, even to knock out standard torps at a distance from the ship. Heh.

Oh, and the HAARP thing and the steel door are right out. Not only couldn't HAARP do it, but just as a matter of physics the available power in magnetic fields produced by coils coupled into a flat plate falls off as something like the sixth power of the distance. You could channel an H-bomb into a magnetic field in Alaska and not roll a ball bearing in San Clemente.

The clue here is that the door has a very large surface area, and the garage was somewhat sealed. It's acting like a sort of reverse speaker. Whatever did this caused a big low frequency airwave. Even just a few millibars of low frequency pressure wave spread over a big door like that can cause surprising movements.
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