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Dear Pres. Bush......Regards, Mahmoud

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posted on May, 8 2006 @ 08:42 AM
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The highest level communication between Iran and the United States in nearly 30 years. Iranian President Ahmadinejad has written a letter to President Bush to be delivered via the Swiss.
 



news.bbc.co.uk
As such it is a bold step by Mr Ahmadinejad, and the timing is key - just as the West is trying to persuade Russia and China to back tough action against Iran, she says.

Mr Ahmadinejad is reinforcing the point that he is willing to negotiate with anyone, including the US president, to avoid conflict over the nuclear issue, our correspondent adds.

The US and Iran have not had diplomatic relations since Washington severed ties with Tehran after Iranian students occupied the US embassy there and took 52 Americans hostage in 1980.

The White House said it was "unaware" of a letter from Mr Ahmadinejad.


Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


At first blush I thought, is this an Iranian 'step back from the brink'? Then I read further and noticed that the contents of the letter have not been made public. The very last line in the article made me think. The BBC knows about a letter, the Swiss have confirmed the existence of a letter, yet the White House states it is "unaware" of a letter. A bit of aloofness?

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posted on May, 8 2006 @ 06:12 PM
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Well, the letter has been received by the White House and this is the initial response reported by the BBC.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice dismissed hopes of a diplomatic breakthrough, telling the Associated Press: "This letter is not it."

and as reported on CNN

"There are a number of concerns that the international community has with the regime, and the letter doesn't appear to do anything to address those concerns," White House spokesman Scott McClellan told reporters as President Bush headed to a fund-raising appearance in South Florida.

Interestingly, the article on CNN says the Iranian president "decided to send letters to leaders of certain countries on the occasion of the "Year of Great Prophet Mohammad."" He wouldn't send out a form letter would he? "Dear Postal Patron"......



posted on May, 8 2006 @ 06:19 PM
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Indeed, he might send out a form letter--he has the reputation of something of a madman. Better would have been an open letter to the entire world.



posted on May, 8 2006 @ 06:38 PM
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I would imagine that perhaps the reason that the White House is "unaware" is simply that the letter sent by Mahmoud started: Dear Satan, How Are You? I Am Fine ..., you think?






seekerof



posted on May, 8 2006 @ 06:44 PM
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The letter was send to the embassy in Switzerland and from there to the US.

The president has acknowledge the letter but not information has been given as what is in it.

One of the possible reasons that Iran may opt for a letter is due to the fact that tomorrow the UN were to meet for the possible sanctions.

Now with a possibility of the Iranian leader reaching to the US and not the UN will be seen as a way to bring some alternative to the US stand off against Iran.

This will put the UN in a different situation because they will have to wait as to what US will do with the information in the letter.

So it will be not section of the UN for now.

Pretty smart move by the Iranian president.

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posted on May, 8 2006 @ 06:46 PM
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Between this and Shimon Perez "Iran can be wiped off the map" statement can there be any doubt of war? Stupid humans on all sides and a bunch of good people too. I don't see any peaceful way out, I am dismayed that perhaps the last opportunity to step back isn't going to be taken.

From the time of the Shah this has been coming. Nukes - it'll be nukes. No matter the rhetoric, all sides are guilty of letting this situation develop to this point. June or July it'll be hot and anything anywhere could set "it" off. It'll really heat up once "the Street" finds something to cause mass demonstrations from the "Stans" to North America. Lots of disgrace, enough to go around here for a half-life.



posted on May, 8 2006 @ 07:46 PM
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Just heard that the letter is 13-15 pages long and discusses history, religion, and philosophy and in no way, hardly addresses what the current Iranian nuclear issue.

Here are a couple "leaked" versions I ran across, enjoy.

Leaked Version #1
Leaked Version #2

On a more serious note, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice pretty much indicated that President Mahmoud Ahmanutjob's letter is pretty much saying nothing new and is no diplomatic breakthrough.





seekerof

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posted on May, 8 2006 @ 08:04 PM
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Those letters seem suspect, I mean would Adhaminajad really us the acronym ROFL?

ROFL!

Or LOL


LOL!

That's not all That seems funny, sounds like it was written by a teenager during lunch hour.

LOL!



posted on May, 8 2006 @ 08:36 PM
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The letter wasn't leaked, this is fake. If he would really have written this lettre it would be an awesome joke!!


Seriously, when will we see the REAL letter?



posted on May, 9 2006 @ 02:42 AM
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*knock* *knock*

Hello people!!!! Come on now. What regime has had the best luck basically defing the world and building nuclear weapons? Yep old Crazy Kim. It worked for him, why not try it and see if it works for Iran?????



posted on May, 9 2006 @ 03:42 AM
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I think it would be nice for the iranian president to make the letter public, I mean dont we have enough cloak and dagger?



However Id say the following solutions are out of the question:

1. America converts to islam

2. Israel destroyed and its inhabitants shipped back to europe in boxcars(holocaust reference)

I think those letters are a sick joke.....



posted on May, 9 2006 @ 08:09 AM
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Reuters apparently has a copy of the letter sent to the Prez. The entire contents have not been revealed in the story however.

He also questioned how the September 11 attacks on the United States could have occurred without the knowledge of America's extensive intelligence and security services.

"Why have the various aspects of the attacks been kept secret? Why are we not told who botched their responsibilities?" he asked.


Holy Smokes!! Is he trying to call out President Bush on the various conspiracy theories surrounding the attacks of 9/11? Or, is this an obvious attempt at misdirection?

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posted on May, 9 2006 @ 12:17 PM
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An english translation of the letter is here. It is provided by the French newpaper Le Monde.



posted on May, 9 2006 @ 04:19 PM
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Dear Mahmoud,

There's no point writing a letter a letter to Mr. Bush. He doesn't talk to people he doesn't like and all he'll do is throw any attempt at detente back in your face. The Bush administration has slapped away the hands of previous, less crazy Iranian administrations before, so this shouldn't be a surprise. Just of the admin as a very stubborn, bratty, singleminded 5 year old that throws tantrums when they don't get their way. Well maybe a 50 foot tall 5 year old with chainsaws for hands...

There's nothing you can do or say to change their minds or their plans. They don't believe in diplomacy...they don't believe in holding their nose and sitting down at the table with people they have problems with in order to avoid war. Besides, war serves their purposes better anyway. Perpetual war and perpetual fear...you're the boogieman of the moment. Besides, haven't you ever read Project for the New American Century? Everything's lining up perfectly: A new Pearl Harbor, followed by the invasion of Iraq, then Iran, then Syria and North Korea.

So in closing...your crazy ass is screwed. You're done for and are destined to disappear along with the Democratic Party's gonads, a worthwhile media, Saddam Hussein, American civil liberties, the middle class, and a bright future.

Sincerely,

A soon to be ex-patriot


news.yahoo.com...



posted on May, 9 2006 @ 04:30 PM
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Those leaked letter are fake. Stinks to the heavens of a former press secretary or other propagandist. The CNN letter gave the reply I expected though- convert to Islam or die. How bleedingly predictable...


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posted on May, 9 2006 @ 04:36 PM
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Originally posted by Flinx
Dear Mahmoud,

There's no point writing a letter a letter to Mr. Bush. He doesn't talk to people he doesn't like and all he'll do is throw any attempt at detente back in your face. The Bush administration has slapped away the hands of previous, less crazy Iranian administrations before, so this shouldn't be a surprise. Just of the admin as a very stubborn, bratty, singleminded 5 year old that throws tantrums when they don't get their way. Well maybe a 50 foot tall 5 year old with chainsaws for hands...

There's nothing you can do or say to change their minds or their plans. They don't believe in diplomacy...they don't believe in holding their nose and sitting down at the table with people they have problems with in order to avoid war. Besides, war serves their purposes better anyway. Perpetual war and perpetual fear...you're the boogieman of the moment. Besides, haven't you ever read Project for the New American Century? Everything's lining up perfectly: A new Pearl Harbor, followed by the invasion of Iraq, then Iran, then Syria and North Korea.

So in closing...your crazy ass is screwed. You're done for and are destined to disappear along with the Democratic Party's gonads, a worthwhile media, Saddam Hussein, American civil liberties, the middle class, and a bright future.

Sincerely,

A soon to be ex-patriot


Good! Send it to Bush! Send to everyone you know then maybe people will stop believing this crazy Bush dictatorship administration!



posted on May, 9 2006 @ 07:20 PM
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Originally posted by Nakash
Those leaked letter are fake. Stinks to the heavens of a former press secretary or other propagandist. The CNN letter gave the reply I expected though- convert to Islam or die. How bleedingly predictable...


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The leaked letters are not fake unless you refuse to believe the Whitehouse.

www.cnn.com...


The following is the letter sent by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to President Bush on Monday. The letter comes from the Web site of the French newspaper Le Monde. A White House official confirmed to CNN that this is the exact English translation of the letter the White House received. (Note: The acronym PBUH stands for Praise Be Unto Him)



posted on May, 9 2006 @ 07:30 PM
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How hypocritical is that??? An avowed enemy of all Christians by simple membership in the Muslim faith questioning a Christian Presidents actions?



posted on May, 9 2006 @ 07:49 PM
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I found a copy of the text of the letter here.

Those in power have specific time in office, and do not rule indefinitely, but their names will
be recorded in history and will be constantly judged in the immediate and distant futures.
The people will scrutinize our presidencies.

Did we manage to bring peace, security and prosperity for the people or insecurity and
unemployment?

Did we intend to establish justice, or just supported especial interest groups, and by forcing
many people to live in poverty and hardship, made a few people rich and powerful – thus
trading the approval of the people and the Almighty with theirs’?

Did we defend the rights of the underprivileged or ignore them?

Did we defend the rights of all people around the world or imposed wars on them, interfered
illegally in their affairs, established hellish prisons and incarcerated some of them?

Did we bring the world peace and security or raised the specter of intimidation and threats?

Did we tell the truth to our nation and others around the world or presented an inverted
version of it?

Were we on the side of people or the occupiers and oppressors?

Did our administration set out to promote rational behaviour, logic, ethics, peace, fulfilling
obligations, justice, service to the people, prosperity, progress and respect for human dignity
or the force of guns.



posted on May, 9 2006 @ 09:32 PM
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What the letter will do in favor of Iran is to buy time.

Already the UN will push their section to consider possible sanctions against the Iran for two weeks.

Is all about, policies, politics and foreign affairs.

In other words the Iranian leader knows how to play bureaucracy just like any other leader in the world for his own gain.

Even if the letter was a whole bunch of mumble jumble and BS.



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