Adderall - ADHD/ADD - The Smart Drug ??, page 1
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reply posted on 8-5-2006 @ 09:12 AM by cedargrove
I'm in college and I'm also prescribed adderall. Yes it does immensely help concentration and memory. You become very involved in whatever task you're doing without submitting to outside distractions. It has made school so much easier for me and I enjoy it a lot more now. Although I don't plan on taking it after college. I honestly don't like being semi dependent on something to help me study. I'm a fairly intelligent individual but have difficult accomplishing certain tasks. I don't mind it while I'm in school but would like to stop once I'm finished. I'm also not sure about the effects of taking a mild amphetamine a few days a week.

There are a number of college students using adderall and other add/adhd medications to study. The effects are heightened in people who do not have one of the conditions. It may make a normal person appear to be 'hyper' but calm someone with add/adhd down. It's a stimulant but it stimulates the areas of the brain that control motivation, concentration and a few others. So as they become more focused they have less 'free' energy. I don't think everyone should be using it but I also think that schools shouldn't be set up to teach rote memorization that is as quickly lost as it's learned. However, it's no excuse for students to abuse prescription drugs. If you have any questions concerning it I'd be more than happy to answer. Hope this helped.

EDIT: I'm not sure if I'd call it a 'smart' drug but I'd check out neutropics if you're interested. They are drugs created or marketed towards increasing intelligence or memory capacities. Although I'm not sure if any are legal yet in the US.

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reply posted on 12-5-2006 @ 03:01 PM by vinrock
Originally posted by The_Doctor
Well look at it this way 35% of American secondary school graduates are quasi-illiterate. Perhaps taking less drugs and focusing more on studies etc. might actually bring their marks up. Adderal taking in decent quantities because it's a stimulant may infact let some of these over partied kids stay up longer. Besides if your not smart enough for university and you don't think you can make it with out the help of pills perhaps you should re-think what type of education you want if you can't keep up.


What do you define as a 'secondary school'? I was kicked out of highschool freshman year and sent to one of these 'secondary' places. Mind you, it is not the same as an 'alternative' program. I spent the next five years in a secondary program, didn't learn a single thing and had more than enough credits to graduate - but was never given the mandatory classes. I basically did the same thing year after year after year until I signed myself out. I bought a ton of books and learned how to code. I immediately went to work and at the age of 22 got my GED. I am now 26 and am moving on from being the technical director at my last employer to my own business ventures.

90% of the kids in the school slept all day. 1% would become the 'publicity students' and the other 9% would end up dead or behind bars through the course of the year. The purpose of attending was to be there and not accumulate disciplinary write-ups. There was a point system implemented, similar to the level system used in many prisons to determine a student/inmate's behavior and what benefits they should be allowed.

E.g., you cannot be part of the 'honors' class, the only class in the 50-person school where you might actually learn something, unless you have reached level 4-B. That means you made it from Level 2, Day 1 (30 days per level, levels were 1, 2, 3, 4, 4-B and 4-C) to Level 4-B, Day 1. Each teacher for every class was to assign a zero for each thing a student did not do according to the teacher's instruction. If you received more than four zeros per day, you did not advance that day. You could accumulate up to 8 zeros per class.

And they expect the kids to learn under those conditions? I can tell you that if my father hadn't been involved in the computer industry all my life, I don't think things would have worked out for me like they did. That school did nothing but waste years of my life.


reply posted on 10-6-2006 @ 08:22 PM by laylakat
ive taken adderall for over 2 years now and i feel like i can relate to and understand what some of you are saying. first, for those of you who abuse adderall...you dont need it, your actually very lucky so quit abussing it before you ruin it for those of us who actually need it and depend on it to get through the day.
throughout my whole life i have struggled with adhd. in elementary i tried a million different drugs to help me like, ritalin, concerta, cylert (sp?), adderall, stratera, dexadrine and the list seems to go on. I stopped taking meds in jr high because i didnt like the side effects that occured when i was coming down off the drugs. anways...i started taking it again when i got to college because i knew without it i would get the same results as i did in high school....poor grades, im just simply not motivated enough, and honestly school is NOT by any means easy for me. its a daily stuggle even now when i take the adderall it doesnt make it simply easy for me. but it does make it EASIER. i can actually sit and listen and comprehend what my professors are saying without being distracted from the little things like, clicking a pencil all the way across the room, the door opening and closing, people talking, someone kicking their chair etc....
i wouldnt necessarily call adderall the "smart drug" because it does not make you any smarter. but what i can tell you about adderall is once i started taking it again i noticed a huge difference. i finally realized that i love to learn. when i can actually sit and study and see end results in my tests it feels so good because ive never been able to see a difference. another factor is memorization. it seems to help me when it comes to memorizing also, although thats probably not so much the drug itself as it is the drug helping me and my ability to retain the information if i dont take my adderall my friends can definitely notice a difference im bouncing off the walls like crazy, there are a few "types" of ad/hd and i have the one most common in males, aka add combined type. theres ton of information on the web about adderall and ad/hd. trust me its out there you've just gotta look for it. and if anyone has any questions about ad/hd dont hesitate to ask... and if can relate to me then all the better! your not alone out there, dont let ad/hd hold you back!!!


reply posted on 10-6-2006 @ 08:24 PM by laylakat
ive taken adderall for over 2 years now and i feel like i can relate to and understand what some of you are saying. first, for those of you who abuse adderall...you dont need it, your actually very lucky so quit abussing it before you ruin it for those of us who actually need it and depend on it to get through the day.
throughout my whole life i have struggled with adhd. in elementary i tried a million different drugs to help me like, ritalin, concerta, cylert (sp?), adderall, stratera, dexadrine and the list seems to go on. I stopped taking meds in jr high because i didnt like the side effects that occured when i was coming down off the drugs. anways...i started taking it again when i got to college because i knew without it i would get the same results as i did in high school....poor grades, im just simply not motivated enough, and honestly school is NOT by any means easy for me. its a daily stuggle even now when i take the adderall it doesnt make it simply easy for me. but it does make it EASIER. i can actually sit and listen and comprehend what my professors are saying without being distracted from the little things like, clicking a pencil all the way across the room, the door opening and closing, people talking, someone kicking their chair etc....
i wouldnt necessarily call adderall the "smart drug" because it does not make you any smarter. but what i can tell you about adderall is once i started taking it again i noticed a huge difference. i finally realized that i love to learn. when i can actually sit and study and see end results in my tests it feels so good because ive never been able to see a difference. another factor is memorization. it seems to help me when it comes to memorizing also, although thats probably not so much the drug itself as it is the drug helping me and my ability to retain the information. and yes adderall will increase anyones attention span so if you do not have ad/hd and take adderall it will work, but it doesnt mean that you have ad/hd, so quit thinking you do..... if i dont take my adderall my friends can definitely notice a difference im bouncing off the walls like crazy, there are a few "types" of ad/hd and i have the one most common in males, aka add combined type. theres ton of information on the web about adderall and ad/hd. trust me its out there you've just gotta look for it. and if anyone has any questions about ad/hd dont hesitate to ask... and if can relate to me then all the better! your not alone out there, dont let ad/hd hold you back!!!


reply posted on 1-7-2006 @ 01:15 PM by Legalizer
Adderall = A single entity amphetamine product combining the neutral sulfate salts of dextroamphetamine and amphetamine, with the dextro isomer of amphetaminesaccharate and d, l-amphetamine aspartate monohydrate.
AMPHETAMINES HAVE A HIGH POTENTIAL FOR ABUSE. ADMINISTRATION OF AMPHETAMINES FOR PROLONGED PERIODS OF TIME MAY LEAD TO DRUG DEPENDENCE AND MUST BE AVOIDED. PARTICULAR ATTENTION SHOULD BE PAID TO THE POSSIBILITY OF SUBJECTS OBTAINING AMPHETAMINES FOR NON-THERAPEUTIC USE OR DISTRIBUTION TO OTHERS, AND THE DRUGS SHOULD BE PRESCRIBED OR DISPENSED SPARINGLY.

MISUSE OF AMPHETAMINE MAY CAUSE SUDDEN DEATH AND SERIOUS CARDIOVASCULAR ADVERSE EVENTS.


Let me give you two fine examples of people who 'benefitted' from amphetamines:
Hitler and Elvis

During World War II, over 72 million amphetamine tablets were given to soldiers on both sides of the conflict to keep them alert and awake. The amphetamines also caused psychosis-like aggression in some soldiers. Hitler was also known to have taken amphetamines daily, by injection, which probably increased his psychotic aggressiveness, as well.
Source




A Brief History of Amphetamines
most importantly follow the money
In 1965 all amphetamines became illegal in the U.S. unless a person had a doctors prescription.

In 1970 The Controlled Substances Act severely restricted the legal production of injectable methamphetamine.

In 1971, there were 31 amphetamine preparations being distributed by 15 pharmaceutical companies. Legal production was over 12 billion pills a year.

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