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How would US make tough finance sanction to Iran

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posted on May, 8 2006 @ 03:11 AM
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Even I support US burn Iran nuclear station, But I admit this is not a best time to make militery action now. So we can consider how snaction Iran use fonance and other economic methods. For examlpe, US could ordain that every company or corporations won't allow keep trade relationship with US, if they make trade with any Iranian organizations. I am Chinese, I know how deep the Chinese economy rely on US, so no industries will make trade with Iran in China I beleive. What do you think? If US can combined EU to make action. Then even Rassia will afresh consider their tradeship with Iran.




posted on May, 8 2006 @ 03:27 AM
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Before we start sanctioning shouldn't we first make sure that they are for sure seeking to get nuclear weapons? 4.3 enrichment levels are far from whats needed for Nuclear arms. Should we make another mistake as we did with Iraq and make assumptions falsely? I understand China is about to put into use a new reactor...should we burn them?



Today there are some 440 nuclear power reactors in 31 countries, with a combined capacity of 367 GWe. In 2003 these provided 2525 billion kWh, over 16% of the world's electricity.

About 30 power reactors are currently being constructed in 11 countries (see Table below), notably China, the Republic of Korea, Japan and Russia. Construction is well-advanced on many of them.

The International Atomic Energy Agency has significantly increased its projection of world nuclear generating capacity. It now anticipates at least 60 new plants in the next 15 years, making 430 GWe in place in 2020 - 130 GWe more than projected in 2000 and 17% more than in 2005. The change is based on specific plans and actions in a number of countries, including China, India, Russia, Finland and France, coupled with the changed outlook due to the Kyoto Protocol. This would give nuclear power a 17% share in electricity production in 2020. The fastest growth is in Asia.

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posted on May, 8 2006 @ 09:15 AM
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The point raised is quite interesting. Russia, as i understand will not pull back. Iran is the third largest buyer of arms from russia behind China and India. Secondly we need to understand the political advantage or alliance as we may call for Russia. US with its Euro alliance form a strong hold in the area, having Iran on Russia's side in that region would challenge US stance in the region.

Thoughts on Russia....

Rgds

K23



posted on May, 8 2006 @ 03:20 PM
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Originally posted by ThePieMaN
Before we start sanctioning shouldn't we first make sure that they are for sure seeking to get nuclear weapons?

No. The NPT requires them to be approved by the IAEA, they are not, therefore, sanctions are warranted, minimally. The whole point of the sanctions is to get them to comply with the IAEA and inspections. If we had definitive proof that iran was building nukes, then we'd have to go to war with them instantly.


I understand China is about to put into use a new reactor...should we burn them?

Why? Is China in violation of any international treaty obligations?


emile
I know how deep the Chinese economy rely on US, so no industries will make trade with Iran in China I beleive

But the US isn't threatening to sanction anyone that doesn't sanction Iran, and also, as much of an economic tie that there is between the US and China, there are very strong ties, via oil, between China and Iran, AND China very much needs Iranian oil to fuel its transitioning economy.



posted on May, 9 2006 @ 08:32 AM
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Originally posted by ThePieMaN
Before we start sanctioning shouldn't we first make sure that they are for sure seeking to get nuclear weapons? 4.3 enrichment levels are far from whats needed for Nuclear arms. Should we make another mistake as we did with Iraq and make assumptions falsely? I understand China is about to put into use a new reactor...should we burn them?

In terms of what Iran has done, the thoughts of you have still wanted evidence is same to you are waithing a threating man shooting you before you stop him.


Originally posted by knowledge23
The point raised is quite interesting. Russia, as i understand will not pull back. Iran is the third largest buyer of arms from russia behind China and India. Secondly we need to understand the political advantage or alliance as we may call for Russia. US with its Euro alliance form a strong hold in the area, having Iran on Russia's side in that region would challenge US stance in the region.
Thoughts on Russia.

I have analysed that economy force of Rassia plus China absolutely couldn't compete with US say nothing of US combined EU and Japan and Canada. China's economy rely on US much deeper than Iran's oil.
About Rassia, US should make clearly that if Rassia become a block to US, well then when US will not care Rassia's profits when US have to do something at the end! This is the best way to warn Rassia and Beijing.



posted on May, 10 2006 @ 04:04 AM
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emile,

FYI,


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Tehran seeking help from Russia and China to avoid sanctions over nuclear programmes

Iranian government envoy in Beijing today expresses qualified support for a plan that would see Iranian uranium enriched on Russian territory. China backs the plan. On the eve of a meeting with the EU3 in London, the United States is pressuring India to back efforts to address concerns over Iran’s nuclear programme in the UN Security Council.



Beijing (AsiaNews /Agencies) – Iran is seeking Russian and Chinese support to stop efforts to address concerns over its nuclear programme in the UN Security Council. Ali Larijani, secretary of Iran's Supreme National Security Council, arrived today in Beijing from Moscow, where he expressed qualified support for a plan to have Iranian uranium enriched on Russian territory. The Iranian embassy in Beijing confirmed Mr Larijani’s visit in Beijing, but in a laconic statement said: “He will meet with high-ranking officials to discuss mutual cooperation”.
Kong Quan, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman, said that China opposed sanctions against Iran. “We think the Russian proposal is a good attempt to break this stalemate,” he noted.


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Russian Soldier,

Russia interest as any other country would be for mutual benefit. Arms deals is one of the key factors. There are a number of buyers in the market for Russia made weapons. China and India are two countries which buy heavily from Russia. Tehran as from the note attached is the third biggest buyer. The stronger Tehran grows with respect to military might, which it appears in the Middle East; it will be a challenge for US. From Russia's point of view this is a good military strategic move because they can have there own European Asian Coalition and on the other hand counter balance US military superiority.

I am sure there will be other causes too; however I haven’t had a chance to look into other area. More than happy to do some research and post my findings.

I do realise that this is an old article however it is as much applicable today as it was then.

Rgds

K23



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Iranian President Mohammed Khatami's recent visit to Russia resulted in expanded strategic cooperation between the two states, particularly in the areas of weapons and nuclear and ballistic missile technology. Iran already is the third largest importer of Russian arms after China and India.1 A new de facto alliance between Russia and Iran that increases Tehran's military capabilities will make this sponsor of terrorism more of a threat to vital U.S. interests in the Persian Gulf as well as to the security of America's allies in the Middle East. Moreover, by gaining nuclear-tipped intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs) and other advanced weapons systems, Iran could one day threaten the United States directly.
Nevertheless, Moscow has ignored Washington's repeated protests over the proliferation of its advanced weaponry and technology to Iran, particularly technology that could be used in producing weapons of mass destruction (WMD). For these reasons, Khatami's visit to Moscow on March 12-15 and the agreement by Iranian officials to buy state-of-the-art Russian surface-to-air missile defense systems have greatly increased concerns in Washington over this close relationship. On March 19, Secretary of State Colin Powell issued a warning to both Russia and Iran that the United States would closely watch their military cooperation and would take unspecified action if their activities threatened to destabilize the Middle East.


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I dnt think it is fair to present the same information on two threads and hence I have tried to keep this short and have attached the threads to both these discussion.

Rgds

Knowledge23



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