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"Unidentified Aerial Phenomena in the UK" - Official report

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JAK

posted on May, 7 2006 @ 07:42 AM
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The BBC has got hold of a previously confidential Ministry of Defence report that took place in the late 1990's ending on 2000.

    UFO study finds no sign of aliens

    A confidential Ministry of Defence report on Unidentified Flying Objects has concluded that there is no proof of alien life forms.

    In spite of the secrecy surrounding the UFO study, it seems citizens of planet Earth have little to worry about.

    The report, which was completed in 2000 and stamped "Secret: UK Eyes Only", has been made public for the first time.

    (Continued at source)


Sheffield Hallam University academic Dr David Clarke got the four year, 400 page report titled "Unidentified Aerial Phenomena in the UK" through the the Freedom of Information Act.



    A MoD spokesperson said: "Both this study and the original "Flying Saucer Working Party" [already in public domain in the national Archives] concluded that there is insufficient evidence to indicate the presence of any genuine unidentified aerial phenomena.

    "It is unlikely that we would carry out any future studies unless such evidence were to emerge."


Jak




posted on May, 7 2006 @ 07:59 AM
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Written by only one man, who is unnamed, only 4 years to complete and also released after only 6 years into the public domain after being a classified file......speaks of disinformation to me.

The author cites ;"There is no evidence that 'solid' objects exist which could cause a collision hazard." - The first piece of evidence that springs to mind is the film footage of a ufo flying around Concorde in flight, what else could this have been other than physical or solid!! Then there are the images of ufo's surrounding the space station, etc. etc. etc.

Spacemunkey



posted on May, 7 2006 @ 08:16 AM
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I find these sudden 'news' events on UFOs in England interesting and certainly different that the BBC website has in two days published two articles on the UFO matter.

The person who hacked into nasa and other gov agencies was interesting but this report by MoD is strange, and I have a tendancy to agree with some comments made by spacemunkey that its disinformation.

The problem I have is that because we dont have an author for this, how can we challenge his or her conclusions on what is said. I mean I have read lots of books on UFOs and the one thing is the author is named and if you wanted to you could write an ask him why this why that. This you cant do.

Suspicious.....

[edit on 7-5-2006 by eldowardo]



posted on May, 7 2006 @ 12:32 PM
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Sounds like disinfo to me but i would like to read that 400 page report or at least the most important parts from it before i draw my conclusions.The site link doesent seem to work aswell.



posted on May, 7 2006 @ 01:34 PM
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Originally posted by JAK
A confidential Ministry of Defence report on Unidentified Flying Objects has concluded that there is no proof of alien life forms.


That's because there ISN'T any proof. Why do folks always assume when info like this comes out that there must be a conspiracy around it, that it's disinfo, or that they simply failed to see the obvious evidence. The governments of the world know NOTHING about aliens visiting here. They only know about their own aircraft test flights and some of the enemy's.

That's not to say aliens aren't keeping a watch on us somehow, with orbiting probes or whatever.



posted on May, 7 2006 @ 03:36 PM
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This is either disinfo, or stupidity on behalf of the MOD. I mean this makes me wonder if they really even study UFOs. UFOs have been tracked on radar... SOLID METALLIC OBJECTS NOT PLASMA!

news.yahoo.com...



posted on May, 7 2006 @ 04:07 PM
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Unfortunately for the Ministry of Defense, The 1956 and more famous 1980 Bentwaters UFO incidents still exist.

www.ufocasebook.com...
ufocasebook.com...

Whether you accept the theory that trained soldiers mistook a lighthouse for UFOs over a period of two days in 1980 is up to you. The 1956 event has radar and visual evidence of metallic craft.

[edit on 7-5-2006 by heelstone]



posted on May, 7 2006 @ 04:36 PM
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I just emailed the MOD explaining my disgust in their latest UFO report. You can do the same here:

www.mod.uk...

Unlike the United States DOD, the British MOD usually respond to emails!




posted on May, 7 2006 @ 04:40 PM
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files.abovetopsecret.com...

Does this look like a natural phenomenon. To me it looks like it is being piloted and no it isn't a balloon. I had sensed it as it was not visible to the naked eye. It was taken over St. Saviours Church Tower in Magdalen Street Norwich in the afternoon of last year. I had the sensation of it's prescence, although it didn't show up on my camera, but it did show up on my husbands camcorder. Natural phenomenon doesn't look or behave like this object. It is metallic and it isn't a lamp post. As I have photos of the church without the object in question. Sometimes I think the lack of intelligence is not up there, but down here. Excuse me for saying this, but having had many experiences with these craft and their occupants, I think the government has gone potty saying 'yes' they do exist, but are not intelligently propelled. I know our government is in a bit of a 'two and eight' right now, but I really think they have lost the plot, or they want to plead ignorance. What proof do they need that they are governed by intelligence? Pilots and other professional people, who have seen and experienced aerial phenomenon have admitted that with the manouveres that they do that there is an intelligence behind them. Is the government tellings us that our pilots and others who work for the government who have witnessed these phenomenon don't know what they are talking about? Are they wanting us to believe that the very people who protect our airways from terrorists, don't know an intelligently guided object looks like if it was to bite them on the nose? As I said, the government has lost the plot by admitting in part they exist, and denying any intelligence driving them. It doesn't require a person with a doctorate in science to see through this lie. It again is the 'emporer with no clothes' scenario. Or is it a chicken or the egg? The government is going to look right silly when evidence of intelligence guiding these craft comes to fruition. They will be the laughing stock. In other parts of the world, they are prepared to accept that they are intelligently driven. In the western world our governments plead the fifth about intelligence. Then there is this thought,'Maybe, they know more than they are telling.' They lied to us about their existance and only now admitted, yes they do exist. How much longer do we have to wait before they admit that they are intelligently controlled by an external force unknown to them and do not perceive them as a threat. Our ancestors readily accepted them and the governments of the day didn't practice deceiving the people on that level, as they knew that it was out of their hands. They didn't make up ludicrous stories to account for them. If the government did thier homework they would know that these intelligences have been visiting Earth for thousands of years monitoring human progress and there have been reports of intelligences making contact with people of Earth, before we became technologically advanced. Our advancements in technology has made us ignorant and blind to the fact that 'we are not alone' and as we send our explorer craft to other worlds. Others are sending crafts to our world. Besides, don't forget the invite we sent out in space in the 70's. Our message in the bottle. Nobody has considered that it has got picked up. We invited them here, now lets show some courtesy and not treat them as ignorant as what we appear to be. I would like to tell the governments to speak the whole truth and nothing but the truth on the subject, besides whatever scientist wrote the paper and said that they are not intelligently driven needs to go back and get his/her education. As like I said any normal person without a doctorate can see there is intelligence, but obviously our government, or their science department lacks.Text PurpleText Purple



posted on May, 7 2006 @ 04:50 PM
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Yeh i just saw this on the news, what BS.

They just had a brief interview with some guy "natural phenomena that cannot be explained."WTF?


spacemunkey and meshuggah1324 I agree with you completely, this is screaming of disinformation.

meshuggah1324 be sure to post any replies you get.

Now to watch MOTD



posted on May, 7 2006 @ 04:51 PM
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hmm, ok is it to much of a coincidence that this Garry McGinnon stuff surfaced as soon as this was released? the disclosure project. I'm having a hard time grasping why there would be 2 high profile sides to the story released to the media at once.
Gart McGinnon Represents the masses and the MOD statement represents the view of Governments world-wide. but, who would choose to release these to bits at once, and why?

for brash conspiracy theorist it could be a way to discredit McGinnon.
but, then again why I'm theorizing when I can't help.

only if the "leet" weren't so single minded and continue his work..because, I personally think Gary McGinnon is one of the few...that has did, what few of us does, and actually went to find out himself what was going on.

there is a connection between this mod release as our hacker antogonist readies persecution.


[edit on 7-5-2006 by waffleprime]



posted on May, 7 2006 @ 04:56 PM
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They are not a UFO spotters club, you are likely to be humoured. And there have been some UK MoD UFO releases in the past, since we only recently got our own FoI Act, they state the colours of them, but came to the same conclusion.
These reports are usually made by a group and not a single author.



posted on May, 7 2006 @ 04:57 PM
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Before believeing in one source as the know all be all answer, you should check out the french COMETA report. Some of france's top scientist tend to believe the opposite...that ufo's do exist. Their evidence is documented military incidents, among other info. I would never believe anything i heard from one source as the absolute answer on this issue....deny ignorance



posted on May, 7 2006 @ 05:47 PM
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Written by only one man, who is unnamed, only 4 years to complete and also released after only 6 years into the public domain after being a classified file......speaks of disinformation to me.


The fact that the author of this report is unnamed might only be because the MOD have recently gone beserk, deleting all names of all MOD staff which are contained in FOIA releases. They say that it is necessary to redact names in order to comply with the Data Protection Act.

I'm in the process of appealing against this type of redaction to my previous FOIA replies.

They even redacted the name of the President of the Royal Society from one release. .


And does any one else find it curious that this report was commissioned by the Defence Intelligence Staff.

Disinfo anyone?

Apparently the whole so-called SECRET report (the parts that I saw on the TV were only marked UK RESTRICTED - UK EYES ONLY, not a very 'high' security clasification) will be published on the MOD website on 15 May 2006.




zero lift



posted on May, 7 2006 @ 05:53 PM
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pparently the whole so-called SECRET report (the parts that I saw on the TV were only marked UK RESTRICTED - UK EYES ONLY, not a very 'high' security clasification) will be published on the MOD website on 15 May 2006.


15th of May you say, well that would explain why i couldnt find anything hower i did come across these a while ago which are quite interesting.


external source link

[edit on 5/7/2006 by 12m8keall2c]



posted on May, 7 2006 @ 06:36 PM
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I wonder what Nick Pope thinks of this report



posted on May, 7 2006 @ 06:43 PM
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Swamp Gas, Planet Venus, weather balloons, birds, and now plasma



Keep em coming! I can't believe these silly test results. UK is the number one Allie of the US. In everything, even in ET cover-ups!



posted on May, 7 2006 @ 06:56 PM
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what pissed me off most was the way they ignored the guy interviewed who was going through the report, he was saying at the end that the official stance is there really are unidentified objects, yet they brush it off as natural phenomenon. Yet at the end, the reporter just states 'and the conclusion? There really is no one out there', totally igonoring what the guy said.



posted on May, 7 2006 @ 11:21 PM
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Absolutely fascinating. I agree with many of the posters here. This release of disinformation is uncannily well timed to coincide with the prosecution of Gary McKinnon. I wonder how long this Sheffield academic (unnamed, interesting) has been waiting to receive this report under the FOIA?

But one senses that the denial is not monolithic at the BBC. The video of the report actually contains some rather good footage of... something... that looks solid, metallic, and three-dimensional. And there's a picture on the website that's obviously of a solid object, classic domed saucer shape, with a caption saying "Meteors may have been responsible for some UFO sightings". The combination of picture and caption is pretty much guaranteed to make the average reader scratch his or her head. I'm making no claims for the picture itself, it should be noted: just observing the way in which it's been used.

But the science editor produces this article, which is linked from the source quoted at the top of this thread. Here we have a much more spirited attempt at disinfo, complete with picture of comedy alien with antenna head.

I think UK readers may find this article a little more informative than the BBC version of reality:

Though several individuals in the UK who have witnessed serious UFO cases have been visited by government officials, the MOD has repeatedly denied the existence of such officials. Sometimes in uniform but mostly in civilian clothes, these officials have approached witnesses asking them not to discuss what they have seen with the public or the media. UFO folklore has termed them the Men in Black (MIB).

The section in charge of such investigations is Aerospace Intelligence within the MOD.

The MOD, and Air Staff 2(a) in particular, have been the chief focus of the search for British information on UFOs. But examination of the MOD's old files shows the absence of any Royal Navy reports. There is also a component within the Admiralty in charge of UFO cases reported at sea, about which researchers have little knowledge. I have also dealt with this component, though I do not know its name.

There is also a rather interesting footnote:

1. My archives contain several military intelligence records of unevaluated reports on UFO conferences and symposia. Most of the better known UFO organizations have deep, as well as casual, penetration by both military and intelligence agencies. This has been brought to my attention on several occasions by individuals who were assigned to such missions.


But of course, none of this stuff is real, right?

Oh, nearly forgot. Thanks to theBman! I looked at those reports. There's a few occasions where the same object has clearly been reported by several observers on separate occasions on the same night: a crescent-shaped UFO over Yorkshire and a 'blue flash' or turquoise object at a wide variety of places are two examples that leap out from a casual glance at the reports.

NOTHING TO SEE HERE, of course. Move along now, you're blocking a public path sir... just a meteor...

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posted on May, 7 2006 @ 11:29 PM
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Yeah i just found out about this. I don't doubt that many reports of craft are explainable phenomenon. This idea of plasma doesn't count out those nice big black triangles though does it?

What truly annoyed me about this story from the media is that once again it is linking UFO with aliens. It makes anyone who mentins UFO's sound nuts.

A comment from the story


So if there are no such things as little green men in spaceships or flying saucers, why have so many people reported seeing them?


Things like that are the problem making serious research without ridicule impossible.


"Evidence suggests that meteors and their well-known effects and, possibly some other less-known effects are responsible for some unidentified aerial phenomena," concludes the report.


So on one hand you hear the media saying that this solves the UFO phenomenon and then the report ends by saying some phenomenon. It didn't say all are explainable at the end did it.


Swamp Gas, Planet Venus, weather balloons, birds, and now plasma


Lets remember though that many UFO's reported are things like the planet Venus. I've had friends point to that when i've been with them and i had to explain lol.

[edit on 7-5-2006 by ImaginaryReality1984]



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