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Originally posted by Jamuhn
Do we need a general war forum or some such?
I know some would like to make such a connection, but due to the fact that such a connection is highly controversial, is it really necessary for ATS to allow Middle Eastern conflicts be termed as a War on Terror, while others are simply Other Current Events?
Originally posted by shotsThe connection has already been made Iran has ties to terrorists in fact they sponsor them.
As for the current events most of the time if you notice those posts come from new users that do not know everything yet. It is just a learning curve and nothing to get all bent out of shape over :shk:
Originally posted by Jamuhn
Nor, is the US or other Western nations currently involved in combat with the terrorists that were/are being supported by them.
Originally posted by shotsOK since you insist there are no ties' then please feel free to prove it. Oh wait you cannot do that since there is evidence that says there is a direct tie.
Originally posted by DontTreadOnMe
FWIW, I don't have a problem with Iran threads being in WOT.
I consider the situation in Iran to be related to the WOT, which I think had developed into a generic phrase, much like the Cold War.
As long as the topic is about the instability in Iran and the Middle East, I think it could go in WOT...unless it fits better in OCE, PTS or Peak Oil.
Originally posted by Jamuhn
Look, you are just taking this off-topic.
Nor, is the US or other Western nations currently involved in combat with the terrorists that were/are being supported by them.
Wouldn't better organization be to have a Terrorism forum and a War forum?
Originally posted by shots
Wouldn't better organization be to have a Terrorism forum and a War forum?
Absolutely not. There are far too many splinter groups most of which are known to have ties with terrorism all over the world. I doubt you realize the logistical nightmare it would be for ATS to have a separate forum for each and every little attack in various parts of the world do you?
Originally posted by Jamuhn
I don't understand your point, I'm only talking about 2 forums, one for terrorism, one for war.
Does Iran sponsor terrorism?
Yes. The U.S. State Department has called Iran the world’s “most active state sponsor of terrorism.” Iran continues to provide funding, weapons, training, and sanctuary to numerous terrorist groups based in the Middle East and elsewhere. In March 2006, U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said, “Iran has been the country that has been in many ways a kind of central banker for terrorism in important regions like Lebanon through Hezbollah in the Middle East, in the Palestinian Territories, and we have deep concerns about what Iran is doing in the south of Iraq.”
Originally posted by shotsWhats the difference one, two, six or ten they all would require a special unneeded folder. Why split it into separate folders when one has worked well for the past 3 plus years?
Now before I bow out of this nonsense more proof why Iran and WOT are tied together meaning they should be in the very same folder.
Originally posted by shots
Originally posted by Jamuhn
I don't understand your point, I'm only talking about 2 forums, one for terrorism, one for war.
Whats the difference one, two, six or ten they all would require a special unneeded folder. Why split it into separate folders when one has worked well for the past 3 plus years?
Now before I bow out of this nonsense more proof why Iran and WOT are tied together meaning they should be in the very same folder.
Does Iran sponsor terrorism?
Yes. The U.S. State Department has called Iran the world’s “most active state sponsor of terrorism.” Iran continues to provide funding, weapons, training, and sanctuary to numerous terrorist groups based in the Middle East and elsewhere. In March 2006, U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said, “Iran has been the country that has been in many ways a kind of central banker for terrorism in important regions like Lebanon through Hezbollah in the Middle East, in the Palestinian Territories, and we have deep concerns about what Iran is doing in the south of Iraq.”
Originally posted by DontTreadOnMe
FWIW, I don't have a problem with Iran threads being in WOT.
I consider the situation in Iran to be related to the WOT, which I think had developed into a generic phrase, much like the Cold War.
As long as the topic is about the instability in Iran and the Middle East, I think it could go in WOT...unless it fits better in OCE, PTS or Peak Oil.
Considering war itself is such a large subject, is it really necessary to get so specific and separate such wars from the rest? We have general subjects like Science & Technology, but then war gets so specific. And that's another thing, as you said, "I consider...[it]...to be related." That's up to indiividual interpretation about what the war really means.
And if terrorism is just considered unconvential warfare, then naturally you would have two subjects, 1. Terrorism (Unconvential), 2. War (Conventional). By all means, the war with Iraq and potentially with Iran will be a conventional war correct?
So, I guess there are three issues: 1. Why is the only war forum a war on terror forum? 2. Why separate the war on terror from general war? 3. Leave it up to the ATSer to come to a judgement about the war really means.
Originally posted by And so, ultimately, it is not ATS members or staff who determine what is and what isn't suitable for that forum, it is the Bush administration.
Originally posted by paperclip
We could rename the WoT forum, call it "Current Wars" or "World of War" or something like that.
Originally posted by semperfortis
I can not see how anyone can equate the Iraq war as conventional. The very first beheading video sort of categorized it UNconventional..IMO of course
Originally posted by paperclip
I think Jamuhn has a point here.
We could rename the WoT forum, call it "Current Wars" or "World of War" or something like that.