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Did Paul Mcartney Die And Was He Replaced?

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posted on Jan, 9 2010 @ 03:31 PM
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Originally posted by faceofcydonia
I can't believe this.

I have been looking at the evidence all day. I really do not want to believe this but my heart has sunk! I am 29 and have been listening to the Beetles my whole life, this is the first I have heard of this conspiracy but the evidence just seems too good. This man is a different person to the one in 1966 and it has made me feel sick.

Good work someotherguy, your links are fantastic. However, I get the feeling that people are not reading them and are trying to derail the thread for their own ends.


Yes, I've been researching this area for quite awhile and it's not the same guy, not by a country mile. Bill/Faul has left clues in his solo work too -



www.youtube.com...



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posted on Jan, 9 2010 @ 03:38 PM
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Originally posted by ANOK

What is the point of your 'research' if not to expose this fake?

I am exposing him. I'm doing it on the Internet & on the radio. At this point, I am satisfied w/ that, but maybe I'll do more in the future.


I just want you put your money where your mouth is, or stop lying on the internet. You've already been exposed in your other thread, making a new one doesn't change history.

I'm not "lying." Photos, videos, forensic science, & voice analyses prove that Paul was replaCIAed. Did you bother to look at any of those links I posted? There is more than enough physical evidence to prove he was replaced, not to mention all of the PID clues in songs & on album covers. Not to be rude, but anyone who can't pick up on all of that must be pretty thick.

How have I been "exposed," pray tell? Just b/c some COINTELPRO disinfo agents try to claim that I tamper w/ photos doesn't make it so. The ones who doctor photos are the ones who are involved in the cover-up. I posted this comp earlier that was taken from screenshots of videos of Paul & Faul. Did you look at the videos? If you did, you would see that they weren't doctored.



Here are the videos for your convenience:

This is PAUL on Aug 19, 1966:



This is FAUL in 1967:



See how they're not the same?

Look, if you can't see that Paul was replaCIAed, you're just never going to be able to spot better doubles, b/c Faul is really a bad double. He doesn't really look like Paul & he makes tons of mistakes.

Oops! The things Faul says sometimes



posted on Jan, 9 2010 @ 04:00 PM
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Never seen this video!

The plastic macs HA! I am sure I saw Billy shears in there as well. Do you think Faul wants/wanted to get the truth out, or do you believe he is being more insidious and toying with people that may know the truth.

One more question for people who have way more knowledge than I on this subject, but when did the rumors start circulation about Faul?



posted on Jan, 9 2010 @ 04:13 PM
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Originally posted by faceofcydonia
Do you think Faul wants/wanted to get the truth out, or do you believe he is being more insidious and toying with people that may know the truth.

I know this was directed towards Benny, & I want to hear his answer, but I have heard that the Illuminati reveal the Truth to the sheeple. They just do it in clues, not openly. For ex, you probably know that there is a lot of truth revealed in movies, right? Take for instance the new-ish movie "The Men Who Stare at Goats," which is about Project Talent & super-soldiers like Duncan O'Finioan. Most people probably just think that stuff is made up, but it's not.


One more question for people who have way more knowledge than I on this subject, but when did the rumors start circulation about Faul?

The first rumors that something had happened to Paul started in England in 1967. The rumors prompted a response from the Beatles Monthly magazine:



Then, in Oct. 1969, the "rumor" resurfaced when "Tom" called into Russ Gibb's Detroit radio show saying Paul was dead. The "rumor" became very well-known, but was then squelched by LIFE magazine. Check out this article for more info:

LIFE proved Faul was "still with us"



posted on Jan, 9 2010 @ 04:58 PM
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Originally posted by faceofcydonia
reply to post by Uncle Benny
 


Never seen this video!

The plastic macs HA! I am sure I saw Billy shears in there as well. Do you think Faul wants/wanted to get the truth out, or do you believe he is being more insidious and toying with people that may know the truth.



I have mixed feelings about Bill/Faul - On the one hand you can feel angry with him for going along with a lie for so long. However it doesn't matter who you are or what you do (whether trying to get to the truth or sometimes cover it up) imo everyone believes they are doing the right thing. I've no doubt Bill thought he was doing the right thing at the time - the Beatles were the first global phenomenon when it came to rock'n roll and popular music. Maybe alot of kids would have commited suicide if they found out Paul had been killed (remember Kurt Cobain). However I feel humanity is undergoing a paradigm shift at present whereby openness and transparency is the way forward - better to speak your truth and live with the consequences. The secret orders and societies are a thing of the past and have served their purpose.


I saw Bill play live in Dublin just before the Christmas and it was a good performance. It was interesting watching everyone get swept away with the whole Beatlemania/Paul McCartney hero worship thing. But when you look at it Bill, techniqually was a Beatle. He stepped up to the plate from Sgt Pepper on (not an easy thing to do).
There was one song Bill played live that night that gave me goosebumps, and that's his new one (which is slated for the upcoming Robert deNiro movie). Not that it's a particularly good song but it says alot. I think Bill/Faul wants nothing better than to hang up the gloves (re McCartney) but he has his families wellbeing to look out for and there are many delicate factors to take into consideration. However if other people were to expose him, well he can't be held accountable.




www.usatoday.com...



One more question for people who have way more knowledge than I on this subject, but when did the rumors start circulation about Faul?







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[edit on 9-1-2010 by Uncle Benny]



posted on Jan, 9 2010 @ 05:06 PM
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Thanks again someotherguy.

The video on your link(paul is dead- the rotten apple 34 d) sent shivers down my spine.

I have never been so moved by anything I have seen on the internet, this subject has touched me immensely. I need to follow this to a conclusion and hope the truth will out.

Why is this not more publicized?

I really appreciate (and hope other members do too) the thought and knowledge you put into your posts.



posted on Jan, 9 2010 @ 05:25 PM
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I can feel the pain in the song, almost personally.

Paul was a genius musician and composer. However, as bad as people may say he was after the Beetles ie the Wings, how do you explain Live and let die(one of the great songs imho) or was it written for him.

Or could live and let die mean something in this situation?



posted on Jan, 9 2010 @ 05:39 PM
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Originally posted by Uncle Benny
I have mixed feelings about Bill/Faul - On the one hand you can feel angry with him for going along with a lie for so long...

You make some really good points about Faul, Benny. However, Faul usurped Paul's identity (identity theft) in a conspiracy to cover up what may have been a crime (criminal facilitation). He has also been bilking people who buy his music thinking he is Paul of their money (fraud). Maybe he is a victim in all of this, but I guess I have trouble seeing someone who is involved to that level in pulling the wool over the sheeple's eyes as a good person. I know some people disagree w/ me on that, & that is fine.



posted on Jan, 9 2010 @ 05:43 PM
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Originally posted by faceofcydonia

I have never been so moved by anything I have seen on the internet, this subject has touched me immensely. I need to follow this to a conclusion and hope the truth will out.

Same here. I hope you will check out this thread:

PID - Motivations for the Murder of Paul McCartney


Why is this not more publicized?

I think they successfully squelched it back in 1969 w/ the LIFE magazine article. I think people were just very trusting of the mainstream media back then, so if LIFE says Paul is "still with us," it must be true. I think we know now that that is not always the case.



posted on Jan, 9 2010 @ 06:01 PM
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Originally posted by faceofcydonia

Paul was a genius musician and composer.

Yes, he was.


However, as bad as people may say he was after the Beetles ie the Wings, how do you explain Live and let die(one of the great songs imho) or was it written for him.


There are a couple of different possibilities. It's possible Paul left songs behind, maybe even laid down tracks, that were later used. It's possible that the songs were ghost-written by people like Neil Diamond, Carole King, etc (not those people necessarily, but you get my drift). It's also possible Faul wrote his own songs.



Or could live and let die mean something in this situation?



At 1:30 - Dr. Len Horowitz' take on that song.




posted on Jan, 9 2010 @ 06:24 PM
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Originally posted by faceofcydonia
reply to post by Uncle Benny
 


I can feel the pain in the song, almost personally.

Paul was a genius musician and composer. However, as bad as people may say he was after the Beetles ie the Wings, how do you explain Live and let die(one of the great songs imho) or was it written for him.

Or could live and let die mean something in this situation?




I think this is a tune which is pretty dark when you look at it closely (it was covered by none other than Guns'N Roses). George Martin took on the musical score for this bond movie and asked Bill/Faul to help him out -


When you were young
and your heart was an open book
You used to say live and let live
you know you did
you know you did
you know you did
But if this ever changin' world
in which we live in
Makes you give in and cry
Say live and let die
Live and let die


What does it matter to ya
When ya got a job to do
Ya got to do it well
You got to give the other fella hell


You used to say live and let live
you know you did
you know you did
you know you did
But if this ever changin' world
in which we live in
Makes you give in and cry
Say live and let die
Live and let die



To me it sends out the vib to give in to life and accept your lot, living to the dog-eat-dog Darwinian concept that there's not enough to go round, and competition is king - a kill or be killed mentality/death of innocence. To me it's an Illuminati anthem for the masses, TPTB are only too delighted to broadcast this type of message. Bill/Faul very much being an Illuminati YES man imo -





^ Glastonbury England - See the Illuminati pyramid stage complete with illuminated capstone and flashing checkered (polarity consciousness) Freemasonic background.


A ritual indeed...






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posted on Jan, 9 2010 @ 06:35 PM
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Originally posted by someotherguy

Originally posted by Uncle Benny
I have mixed feelings about Bill/Faul - On the one hand you can feel angry with him for going along with a lie for so long...

You make some really good points about Faul, Benny. However, Faul usurped Paul's identity (identity theft) in a conspiracy to cover up what may have been a crime (criminal facilitation). He has also been bilking people who buy his music thinking he is Paul of their money (fraud). Maybe he is a victim in all of this, but I guess I have trouble seeing someone who is involved to that level in pulling the wool over the sheeple's eyes as a good person. I know some people disagree w/ me on that, & that is fine.



I take your point Someotherguy, but I won't judge the man. Like I said, in my opinion he did what he thought was right at the time and he has to sleep on that at night. It wouldn't be my way of doing things, but I don't look on it purely from a right/wrong, light/dark perspective.



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posted on Jan, 9 2010 @ 08:00 PM
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Originally posted by Uncle Benny
I take your point Someotherguy, but I won't judge the man. Like I said, in my opinion he did what he thought was right at the time and he has to sleep on that at night. It wouldn't be my way of doing things, but I don't look on it purely from a right/wrong, light/dark perspective.


Wise words there, Benny. One shouldn't judge if one doesn't have all the facts about what happened. I am still rather miffed about this whole thing, though.



posted on Jan, 10 2010 @ 07:34 AM
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Originally posted by someotherguy
Wise words there, Benny. One shouldn't judge if one doesn't have all the facts about what happened. I am still rather miffed about this whole thing, though.


I know what you mean Someotherguy, but fame and the power it brings can be quite intoxicationg. Wasn't it Kissinger who said "power is the ultimate aphrodisiac." Seeing Bill on stage and the adulation he receives - if he was to come out with the truth he would go from being universally loved and revered to a figure of hate. To say most people would be shocked would be an understatement, and later this would turn to vitriol. What about his family, could they be attacked by fanatics etc? I've pondered the question recently, if Paul McCartney had lived and wasn't replaced would he be as famous and successful today? Bill had the full backing of the media and the music industry to shape this "Paul McCartney" image into an iconic stature... Would Paul have achieved this level of "respect," would he have wanted it? I guess we'll never know, but how easily people can be fooled by big business, the media and the herd mentality.



John Todd (Collins) speaks about the Illuminati dominated music industry.



Young artist speaks about the evils of the music industry today.



The hidden hand of Satanism.




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posted on Jan, 10 2010 @ 09:18 AM
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Hi

One question about the 'I Want To Come Home' video - it is moving and suggestive of him wanting to reveal 'the truth'; however when I searched on youtube for the official video of this song it tells me it is from a new Robert de Niro movie Everybody's Fine.

So, could it not be that the lyrics relate to the movie and not to Paul/Faul at all?

(LOL that last bit rhymes)



Edited to say, as you can see from my post on the other thread, I am having my doubts again about this whole subject. Please don't flame me for this, I'm just confused and trying to find the truth. I need to step back a bit from it I think.

[edit on 10-1-2010 by tappy]



posted on Jan, 10 2010 @ 11:27 AM
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Originally posted by tappy
reply to post by Uncle Benny
 


Hi

One question about the 'I Want To Come Home' video - it is moving and suggestive of him wanting to reveal 'the truth'; however when I searched on youtube for the official video of this song it tells me it is from a new Robert de Niro movie Everybody's Fine.

So, could it not be that the lyrics relate to the movie and not to Paul/Faul at all?

(LOL that last bit rhymes)



Edited to say, as you can see from my post on the other thread, I am having my doubts again about this whole subject. Please don't flame me for this, I'm just confused and trying to find the truth. I need to step back a bit from it I think.

[edit on 10-1-2010 by tappy]



Hey Tappy, nobodies going to flame you unless you're a shill, you're not an internet shill are you?


You're right about the new song, as I said above it's slated for release with the new de Niro movie. That's the beauty of songs and poetry, there are many layers, so on one level I'm sure Linda was uppermost in his thoughts and he was of course writing with the movie in mind too.

However in the opening lines when you hear - "I thought myself to believe every story I told..... and "I made my way in the shade keeping out of the heat...."

Next we have - "Home....to the place where the truth lies waiting.....WE REMEMBER WHO WE ARE!"

Do you see what I'm getting at - Why would he need to remember who he is, stay in the shade/out of the heat... and convince himself to believe every story he told?


It took me a number of months Tappy researching this area to fully convince myself that the original McCartney was replaced in late 1966 and never came back into the fold. You don't have to make up your mind on it so soon, be open to the possibility that maybe he was. Most people can't get their heads around this, yet they can come to forums like this and believe in flying saucers, reptoids and apparitions in Lourdes, but human flesh and blood doubles.... nahhh! The CIA have been using doubles for decades but few look into it. Do people really know the Bob Dillions, Elvis and McCartneys of this world, no! But they'll believe what they see on tv and read in the newspaper. Keep an open mind my friend.




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posted on Jan, 10 2010 @ 12:33 PM
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Hi Uncle Benny,

I honestly have no idea what a shill is anyway so no I don't think I am one. Just a confused person trying to make sense of this


I do see what you mean about the lyrics, they are interesting especially the lines you quoted. I guess I just don't want to commit myself to something while I have doubts. I am keeping an open mind, believe me. That's what I prefer to do about anything I come across... I try a weigh all the evidence 'for' and 'against' as it were, before I come to a conclusion.

Like I said, I think I just jumped in a bit too quickly, maybe in all the excitement of finally plucking up courage to join ATS


Thanks for understanding though, I was kinda worried about my last post. I will be keeping an eye on this and the other thread, I am definitely still interested in the subject as I can see there are unanswered questions for sure.



posted on Jan, 10 2010 @ 12:50 PM
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Not true.



posted on Jan, 10 2010 @ 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by tappy
reply to post by Uncle Benny
 


Hi Uncle Benny,

I honestly have no idea what a shill is anyway so no I don't think I am one. Just a confused person trying to make sense of this



A shill is someone who consistantly debunks a certain topic (usually under different names), twists what people say and spreads lies about a subject in order to put other people off investigating it. You appear genuine in your posting Tappy and I take you at your word.



I do see what you mean about the lyrics, they are interesting especially the lines you quoted. I guess I just don't want to commit myself to something while I have doubts. I am keeping an open mind, believe me. That's what I prefer to do about anything I come across... I try a weigh all the evidence 'for' and 'against' as it were, before I come to a conclusion.



And you're right to do that, the worst thing someone can do is plunge in with strong opinions when they haven't weighed up the pros and cons.



Like I said, I think I just jumped in a bit too quickly, maybe in all the excitement of finally plucking up courage to join ATS


I see you've joined Paul is Dead Miss Him too, it's a good idea to check out the forums and examine pictures/footage etc.



Thanks for understanding though, I was kinda worried about my last post. I will be keeping an eye on this and the other thread, I am definitely still interested in the subject as I can see there are unanswered questions for sure.


And thank you for your sincerity - None of us have all the answers Tappy but we keep looking, feel free to ask me or any of the others questions that may pop up.



posted on Jan, 10 2010 @ 02:18 PM
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Originally posted by Uncle Benny
twists what people say and spreads lies about a subject in order to put other people off investigating it. You appear genuine in your posting Tappy and I take you at your word.


Which is what we proved YOU all do in that other thread that you keep forgetting about where you were shown to be a fraud.

How can you forget we proved your pics were tampered with, i.e. stretched etc.

BTW I'm not a shill I just like to expose frauds and liars. Please keep on with your 'investigating', oh btw what is it you do to 'investigate' this exactly, stare at tampered pics on the internet? Some of us have met the guy and been to his windmill...


Instead of wasting your time 'investigating', another Sherlock (are you Faulcon also, wouldn't surprise me), how about learning something about Human anatomy and how it changes with age etc., and take a photography course so you can understand how different cameras, depth of field, film type and speed, light, development etc., can alter the shape of a persons face. You were shown all this in that other thread.

Cling to your fantasy if you like but if you don't want me here spoiling your fun take it elsewhere.



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