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Originally posted by sminkeypinkey
However, I do think that if the 'standard' by which the parties are 'weighed' is one of near or even outright perfection and that their relative performances in office are simply to be ignored then that is a rather childish and ridiculously unrealistic yardstick which few people would ever contemplate using.
Originally posted by rich23
What Lib1984 may be too young to understand is that life under the Tories was bad enough that Labour, to many quite intelligent people, seemed like a good idea at the time. I was actually out of the country and didn't vote, plus I had heard that Blair had been vetted by the Bilderbergers, so I wouldn't have voted for him anyway (mind you, I say that now but I too would have been desperate to get the Tories out).
Originally posted by Liberal1984
all future prime ministers of Britain (Labour or Tory) can look at Tony Blair from history and think to themselves "I could be like him and get away with it". That to me will be Tony Blair's single greatest legacy.
Originally posted by Liberal1984
P.S According to the papers this week a man and his supporters who have doing a 2-3 year peaceful vigil outside parliament was attacked by 50 police this week. They confiscated placards, but he has remained. Thankfully he is exempt from the legislation because his protest started before it was introduced. www.indymedia.org...
Originally posted by Liberal1984
I'm sorry Sminkeypinkey but what you have just said doesn't make very much sense to me.
Originally posted by Liberal1984
So what's your point? Other than the papers got their numbers wrong (which they usually do from anything as serious as the numbers of troops in Iraq to the something as innocent as the daily weather forecast predictions).
But you're not denying that the use of the police to uphold our ancient civil liberties in this way took place, are you?
Mind you interesting to hear the Times "mistakenly" only reported the use of 20 police. Because that's a Rupert Murdoch paper. Maybe we don't need to learn anything about what Tony Blair and Rupert Murdoch have been discussing after all?
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Originally posted by Strangerous
me, a life-long labour supporter (and ex party member)........... a tactical tory voter.
Over 100 years of socialist struggle destroyed in a decade!
Nice one Tone
Originally posted by MacDonagh
It's because I believed that Labour has caused more harm then good in my community.
Community services like liberaries, primary schools and community centres are having their funding cut, or getting shutdown much to the detriment of the more deprived areas.
I'm not sure if Labour are responsible, but if they are in charge of public services, then are they?