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Originally posted by ceci2006
She does? Why do you assume that she even has a "chip on her shoulder" and Mr. Kennedy doesn't?
Don't you think as a result of his family legacy, he might have "chip on his shoulder" too?
Oh no. I guess not. You wouldn't even consider that.
I do agree that he does have demons he has to fight. I mean when you are part of a family well known to the press for nearly a hundred years, well you have to admit that Joe Kennedy's mantra of "Win at all costs" is part of his psychology.
I mean, when immediately after crashing those barriers with "malice", he claimed the "drug card". He might even have that "chip on his shoulder" because of his family history of tragedy. Alas, I guess the "Kennedy Curse" card has already been dealt too. Aren't people a little angry that he used his family as a crutch? Especially his father's legacy as a teetotaller back in the day? Must we even mention his mother's "accident" in front of her townhouse due to the "alcohol card"?
And I still have yet for anyone to unleash a tirade on Mr. Kennedy's character. Not surprising in the least. The pity party is still in full attendance.
I'm just amazed that violence is still attributed to Ms. McKinney while Mr. Kennedy is already dealing a full deck of cards and no one bats an eyelash.
Originally posted by dgtempe
What a nice little diversion from this to the criminal family known as Bush!!!
Just sayin.......
Originally posted by ceci2006
jsobecky,
Let's cut to the chase here. I do like you and have a lot of respect for your posts. If I didn't like you, I wouldn't answer your posts thoughtfully and take your ideas seriously.
Don't you think that's a little arrogant to assume that I don't know about the Kennedy family?
With that being said, I respectfully again, think that you are missing the point of my posts in this thread. Do you know how easy it is to attack Cynthia McKinney on her personality when considering her "altercation"? You don't know whether she attacked the cop with malice. As I don't know whether Mr. Kennedy hit the police barriers with malice. But, in the same way, you assume that Ms. McKinney is the devil incarnate while attaching every personal characteristic about her in the book. To top it off, you think she has a "chip on her shoulder". How in the heck do you know? Have you asked her?
And when I played devil's advocate and attacked every stereotype in the book about Mr. Kennedy, you felt the hurt and the indignity of my words and set out to rehabilitate his character. And it was equally hurtful, I bet, when I put all the cards on the table about all the excuses Mr. Kennedy has used.
Don't you think it is quite interesting how people haven't resorted to saying derogatory words about Mr. Kennedy?
While attacking Ms. McKinney posters on that thread went off "half-cocked" about her hair, her dress, her color as well as her personality. Does seeing the dichotomy have any resonance to you? Does it also mean anything to you when the other posters tried to defend her, the "race card" is immediately brought up?
And interestingly enough, what Mr. Kennedy and Ms. McKinney have in common is the fact that they are both Catholics. But, in the vitriol about Ms. McKinney's character, no one ever took the time to find that out either.
I have resisted, in my posts, from using anything racially derogatory about Mr. Kennedy because I do have more respect for him than that.
But, I think it hasn't escaped your notice that on other boards talking about certain dignitaries of color, there are posters who do not. That's why I find it simply ironic that posters have refrained from doing the same hateful scruntiny on the congressman from Rhode Island.
And when I bring up all these different "cards", you immediately felt bothered by that, didn't you? How do you think it makes me feel when people accuse me of using the "race card"?
The main point is for all this lip service about being "fair" and "equal" to all dignitaries, some are treated more fairly by the police, the limelight and by people more than others. And fascinating enough, we all have to realize this.
Btw, I still am waiting for that thread attacking the NAACP, the New Black Panthers and the Nation of Islam.
Originally posted by dgtempe
Was Patrick Kennedy drunk and involved in a cover up?
Cheney didnt get quite as much coverage
Originally posted by dgtempe
*Makes sign of the cross*
Originally posted by ceci2006
Cynthia McKinney ... "altercation"?
You don't know whether she attacked the cop with malice
what Mr. Kennedy and Ms. McKinney have in common is the
fact that they are both Catholics.
But, in the vitriol....
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Surprise Ceci. I agree with you to some extent. Kennedy and McKinney
were treated differently. His possible drunken driving was immediately
covered up. Considering how the Capitol police handled this, it's my guess
(and only a guess) that if he had forgotten his ID at the capitol, he
would have been allowed to walk through without the use of metal
detectors. I can't say if he would have taken that opportunity. Others
who have forgotten their IDs have walked through the detectors and not
made stinks about it.
That being said ... Kennedy and McKinney had two different behaviors.
She attacked a police officer when all she had to do was walk ten extra
feet through a checkpoint.
Kennedy got humble and said he was addicted
to pain killers.
:
Bottom line -
Both of them were wrong. She slugged a cop doing his job (and doing
it properly). He put people in danger by getting in a car and driving
under the influence of something mind altering. He got better treatment
due to his family name. She screwed herself further by getting physical
with a cop. But ... both were wrong.
Originally posted by truthseeka
But, I can't help but notice how the "reverse race card" is being used in the dogging of Ms. McKinney. Ghetto slut, come on, how low is that? "Aggressive tapping" of an "offi-SHAL", please.
Meanwhile, no bashing of Kennedy due to his race. What a shame.
Originally posted by jsobecky
Show me where someone here has called her a ghetto slut.
To put it frankly, why aren't they calling him a "ghetto slut" ?
Originally posted by jsobecky
The difference is, Cynthia acted out her aggressions.
Kennedy is just a major screw-up.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Did someone here call McKinney a ghetto slut? I haven't seen that.
If so ... that's inappropriate. If not, then there was no reason
to say that about Kennedy when it wasn't even said about McKinney.
The only reference I can find to McKinney being called a ghetto slut
was by this radio guy down south -
mediamatters.org...
I've never heard of him before.
Probably won't ever hear of him again either.
Being called names is an equal opportunity offense to politicians.
She gets loud and keeps verbally hitting and making a stink
- all the while the situation is her fault. He says 'sorry'
and seeks treatment. Big difference. Kennedy shouldn't have
gotten special treatment. But neither should McKinney.
Originally posted by jsobecky
Originally posted by truthseeka
But, I can't help but notice how the "reverse race card" is being used in the dogging of Ms. McKinney. Ghetto slut, come on, how low is that? "Aggressive tapping" of an "offi-SHAL", please.
Show me where someone here has called her a ghetto slut.
Meanwhile, no bashing of Kennedy due to his race. What a shame.
Hey, nobody's stopping you from bashing him because he's white. Want to ante up here? Or are you asking ceci, a woman, to do your dirty work for you?
Stand up.
I didn't think so.
Originally posted by truthseeka
And what's up with the "asking a woman" thing?
Originally posted by jsobecky
That probably means that two stations carry his crap.