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Topic started on 4-5-2006 @ 05:47 PM by Stateofgrace
I have done a search and cannot find any reference to this video. If it as been posted before, I apologies and ask any Mods to simply remove this thread.

www.dfw.com...

Please view this video of a controlled demotion of a skyscraper; it is only two minutes long.

For those that support the belief that the Towers were brought down in such a way I have noted the following.

1. The explosive charges that went off were clearly visible.
2. The explosive charges that went off were clearly audible.
3. The Building collapsed into its own footprint.
4. The building collapsed from the bottom up.
5. The building split during this collapse.
6. Very little dust cloud was generated from the top of the building.

This is not in keeping with the collapse of either of the Towers.

(This is not a thread about WTC 7, just the Towers).

So why the massive differences between this controlled demolition and the Towers?


reply posted on 4-5-2006 @ 06:10 PM by Jack Tripper
Quite simple.

ALL demolitions vary because the building designs vary.

There are a whole bunch of videos on the web page of the company that cleaned up the WTC site and Oklahoma City bombing site that demonstrate this perfectly....


www.controlled-demolition.com...

Check it out. Virtually no two are alike.

Not to mention the WTC demolition was COVERT meaning they didn't want anyone to know it was a controlled demoltion.

That is why the used thermite which is typically never used in CD and is a chemical reaction as opposed to an explosion.


reply posted on 4-5-2006 @ 07:56 PM by Stateofgrace
I don't know, maybe the dreadful last moments of this guys live will expalin it all.

www.flurl.com...

Guess those explosives really were silent after all I never heard them as this poor individual went though what none of us will ever have to face,hopefully.

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reply posted on 4-5-2006 @ 11:14 PM by Jack Tripper
So all the witnesses that many people quote as hearing explosions are now invalid?


Hardly.

It simply explains why it doesn't look exactly like the controlled demolition that you cited.

It was likely a combination of advanced
superthermites (that use nanoaluminum) and more traditional explosives in strategic places so as to be detected as little as possible.

Besides....not all demolitions start at the base.

Here is an example of a mid level demoltion similar to what we saw at the towers in philidelphia 1999 courtesy of Controlled Demolition Inc....




reply posted on 4-5-2006 @ 11:22 PM by Jack Tripper
Originally posted by Stateofgrace
I don't know, maybe the dreadful last moments of this guys live will expalin it all.

www.flurl.com...

Guess those explosives really were silent after all I never heard them as this poor individual went though what none of us will ever have to face,hopefully.



Wow! Insane cllip.

Did you catch what he told the operator?


"My wife thinks I'm alright. I called and said I was leaving the building and then ---BANG!"


So he did hear an explosion.

There were MANY MANY corroborated accounts of bombs going off BEFORE the collapse as was testified by William Rodriguez to the 9/11 commission.

Kevin Cosgrove is yet another corroboration of explosions.


reply posted on 5-5-2006 @ 03:37 AM by Stateofgrace
Originally posted by Jack Tripper
Originally posted by Stateofgrace
I don't know, maybe the dreadful last moments of this guys live will expalin it all.

www.flurl.com...

Guess those explosives really were silent after all I never heard them as this poor individual went though what none of us will ever have to face,hopefully.



Wow! Insane cllip.

Did you catch what he told the operator?


"My wife thinks I'm alright. I called and said I was leaving the building and then ---BANG!"


So he did hear an explosion.

There were MANY MANY corroborated accounts of bombs going off BEFORE the collapse as was testified by William Rodriguez to the 9/11 commission.

Kevin Cosgrove is yet another corroboration of explosions.




He was talking about the plane crashing into the building.

And now you are saying that the explosions that were heard actually went off before the planes hit?

So as well as using Thermite (the silent type) they also use tradition explosive charges before the planes hit. But that doesn't make sense at all.

If explosives were used before the planes hit (the conventional type) then what would have happened had the planes not hit?

So it all boils down to using explosive charges prior to the planes hitting, the actual damage caused by the planes and then using thermite after the planes hit. Seems mighty elaborate to me.

Sorry for being so stupid but maybe you could talk me through the precise sequence of events because from what I have read, this is now how you see it.


Step 1. Explosive charges go off prior to the planes hitting.
Step 2. The planes hit.
Step 3 Thermite are used to complete the job.

If this was the case then the demolition experts must have been very confident that their tracks would have been covered by the planes hitting the Towers and that the buildings would not have collapsed prior to the Planes hitting. Also they must have been extremely confident that the Towers which, by your implications were already dangerously unstable prior to the planes hitting did not collapse as soon as the planes hit.

Secondly, the planes hitting the towers and the fire did help to bring the buildings down. Most conspiracy theorists believe
that the planes and the subsequent fires did help bring down the towers. But in a controlled demo as in the video where
is the planes and fires?


So if the planes did not help to bring down the towers then step two is now invalid?
And the Towers were simply brought down by using a combination of conventional explosives that was not captured on camera at all, as they went of prior to the planes hitting and then the silent thermite type explosions.

But wait that doesn't make sense neither, because many people point out the squibs coming from the Towers as they went down, surely this must have been caused by conventional explosive charges and not the slow burn thermite?

Also why would the Towers start to collapse precisely at the point of impact, rather than the basement? How would termite survive such a massive plane crash?
And why if they were so well prepared for this demolition did they not collapse into their own footprint?

It's all very confusing maybe somebody could clear it up.

[edit: fixed BBcode for code]

[edit on 5/5/2006 by 12m8keall2c]


reply posted on 5-5-2006 @ 11:49 AM by Stateofgrace
Originally posted by Jack Tripper
Ok I guess it could have been the plane hitting because he was in the south tower and the north tower was hit first.


Step 1. Explosive charges go off prior to the planes hitting.
Step 2. The planes hit.
Step 3 Thermite are used to complete the job.


Yes there are NUMEROUS accounts of explosions just before impact as well as after impact but before the collapse. This was most notably reported from William Rodriguez.

These would have helped weaken the the base and various support columns of the towers in order to facilitate the collapse but did not initiate the collapse.

The superthemite or thermate helped initiate the collapse while ADDITIONAL more traditional explosives were also used during the collapse.

The initial explosives were timed for when the plane impacted as a diversion.


So this basically sums up your explanation has to why the video of a controlled demolition differs so much from the collapse of the Towers?

Step 1. Explosive (loud) charges go off prior to the planes hitting.
Step 2. The planes hit and are basically to diguise the fact that explosives have been already used.
Step 3 Thermite (quiet) is used to complete the job, along with additional conventional explosives (loud). Presumably to diguise the fact that the planes didn't do enought damage to cause them to collapse.

Brilliant, wonder why it never occurred to me before?


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reply posted on 5-5-2006 @ 01:02 PM by wecomeinpeace
Originally posted by JIMC5499
Nano Aluminum

Someone has been watching the SciFi channel too much.


It makes sense if you know how thermite works. It's an extremely exothermic reaction whereby aluminum in contact with iron oxide rips the oxygen away from the iron oxide. The more contact between the aluminum and iron oxide, the faster the reaction proceeds and the more energy is released per time frame. So a powdered mix of oxidant and reactant produces a more violent reaction than filings or small pieces. Extend this principle to nano-scale powders (<100nm) and the effect will be further extrapolated.

www.technologyreview.com...

Researchers can greatly increase the power of weapons by adding materials known as superthermites that combine nanometals such as nanoaluminum with metal oxides such as iron oxide, according to Steven Son, a project leader in the Explosives Science and Technology group at Los Alamos.

"The advantage (of using nanometals) is in how fast you can get their energy out," Son says.

Son says that the chemical reactions of superthermites are faster and therefore release greater amounts of energy more rapidly.

"Superthermites can increase the (chemical) reaction time by a thousand times," Son says, resulting in a very rapid reactive wave.

Son, who has been working on nanoenergetics for more than three years, says that scientists can engineer nanoaluminum powders with different particle sizes to vary the energy release rates. This enables the material to be used in many applications, including underwater explosive devices, primers for igniting firearms, and as fuel propellants for rockets.


And more here:
www.nanoscale.com...

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