JFK: The Ultimate Explanation -- The Involvement of George Bush Sr.

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posted on May, 8 2006 @ 06:13 PM
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Finished. Well there´s something you don´t see everyday. A serious must see for serious ATS members...

www.jfkmurdersolved.com...

This almost completely spells out the info presented in this thread, but for the fact that Lee Oswald did work for the C.I.A. Supposedly he was working for Hoover, which make somewhat more sense to me. Hoover is shown in a somewhat more positive light here. The rest: 100% vindicates the evidence presented.

This film severely implicates George Herbert Walker Bush as the executioner to "Get into the club" and ensure his political future. The theory being the only way to become part of the powers that be and be trusted is to get enough blood on your hands so that at least they have enough on you as you have on them. Trust is then granted, and you are "made". References to Skull & Bones are again interesting. Makes more than sense, and explains America as it is today.

The film ends on a chilling note: How did George W. Bush enter this club to take his turn in the White House and become a "made" man? Well, Kennedy j.r.´s plane crashed while George W. Bush went missing for several days. If that´s not enough, how about 9/11? Mind boggling and very, very scary.

Thanks for that pointer AceOfBase, this documentary gives full background and seriously messed with my head. (again!)


Like to start a new thread on that last speculation about Kennedy jr. Researching...[5%]...

To all you Americans out there: It is about time to get to high ground. Could Alex Jones be right after all? Imagine.




posted on May, 8 2006 @ 06:38 PM
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For anyone that doesn't want ot watch the entire video, here's a 12 minute clip I uploaded that discusses GHWB's connection to the Bay of Pigs invasion, the CIA and to the people connected with the Kennedy assassination:

media.putfile.com...



posted on May, 8 2006 @ 07:05 PM
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There is something fishy going on here....

Check the JFK Jr thread

EDIT: Moved content related to Jr to other thread


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posted on May, 8 2006 @ 07:33 PM
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Oh for heavens sake, this is starting to sound like the mafia family wars except it's the Bush family vs. the Kennedy family, and it looks like it's been going on for three generations.



posted on May, 8 2006 @ 08:25 PM
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Family Matters


Originally posted by Relentless
this is starting to sound like the mafia family wars except it's the Bush family vs. the Kennedy family

You mean there's a difference?



posted on May, 8 2006 @ 08:28 PM
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You beat me about 20 seconds to this response.



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posted on May, 8 2006 @ 11:56 PM
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HArdtoget,
I am absolutely flaborgasted at the amount of info. you have manage to get from your commrad and friend. I was born in '65, but got the low down from my farther, (God rest his Soul..) and his rant's and rave's of how the Government was the ideal culprit's to initiate the act of assassinating an American President and how LHO was the real victim, (Other than JFK) and that he would always refer to the same group of individuals depicted in your report. He is knowlegable of the day of his death, to be able to relate all, but he cheering for joy that this particular issue has not been "Put to bed" so to speak. My father was a military man and did a spute in Korea, and loved his country. Now that I am the only boy in the family and a very big fan of Kennedy's, not to say they are a perfect crowd, I have been waiting for some kind of since to be made out of the whole senario, and low and behold, you've done it!!!!
Great thread, awesome translation's and over all really thorough investigation!!!
Thanks Hardtoget!



posted on May, 9 2006 @ 12:18 AM
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Originally posted by ELMO777
"Behold a pale Horse" by William Copper has a doccument from George Bush Snr (CIA) to J Edgar Hoover (FBI) in there that you might find interesting.
William Cooper was a Naval intelligence officer turned whistle blower and was killed for what was revealed in his book.


Yes and glad you mentioned it...

he said the driver shot JFK!

if Montauk is considered then it is possible.

also, Cooper knew that the international financiers were the true evil in the world but amazingly my post hasn't made the least impression on anyone so far????




posted on May, 9 2006 @ 12:26 AM
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Originally posted by donwhite
Castro’s revolution in Cuba was like our 1775-1781 Revolution, in that it was essentially bloodless. The dissidents were “allowed” to leave.


Castro's revolution resulted in a 7 year counter insurgency war and countless dead and tortured and imprisoned... we don't know how many.

Most of the ex-pats ran for their lives.

You should ask current Cubans in private how much they like Castro.

The problem in SA is that they have to 'prove something' vis a vis the US and the rest of the capitalist world instead of minding their own business.

No offense but how well are socialists going to run anything?

I was hoping that you had some Castro related insights vis JFK's assassination eg. Castro supplying hitmen or harboring the killers etc.

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posted on May, 9 2006 @ 12:29 AM
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Originally posted by alphacenturi
To literally say the American people would lynch them, whatever it is he is talking about must be very very bad indeed.

Has anything ever been connected to what he quoted, or is there just too many incidents to narrow it down?




You would lynch the Bush's but ignore the Rockefellers? May I ask why? Maybe people think they are untouchable and thus forget about it... but if you want to stop evil then go for the roots and don't just hack at the branches.


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posted on May, 9 2006 @ 02:21 AM
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Well, Joe Kennedy caused the stock market crash in "29" because of all his dirty dealing. He traded on inside info and found that when he spoke , people listened, so he started floating junk stocks and pumping them, then he'd sell short and laugh all the way to the fitzgerald bank.
Joe kennedy ruined many a welathy man. They were lucky that ww2 came along within a decade so they could re-make their fortunes as defense contractors.
After ww2, those same guys invested in cuba with the mob since the war was over and thery had to invest their capital.
Joe kennedy got snubbed because they all hated him for beating them in the stock market, they didn't trust him.

The bushs , on the other hand, made their money as defense contractor for the nazis. they lost and so did bush.

Then the real war started between the two camps. Bush vs. Kennedy.
The Bush people wanted to make a fortune in cuba and kennedy couldn't let that happen. So kennedy pretended to sign off on the bay of pigs and then sabotaged it because fidel was a cia plant- double agent. Bush camp realized they were getting hoodwinked so they took out kennedy.

the middle management of both groups wanted war to make more money so we went to viet nam. Joe kennedy caused the death of john and bobby because he cheated powerful men out of a fortune in the stock martket and then a second time by orchestrating the castro takeover of cuba and the confiscation of their assets. Joe kennedy cheated them in 1929 and collapsed wall street, then when they made their fortune again, he cheated them again by using the cia to back a rebel castro. So they had to remake a fortune for a third time in viet nam.
"They" the victims of joe kennedys schemes were just industrialists and investors, who turned into defense contractors , who turned into the military industrial complex that Ike warned us about, then after ww2 they turned into organized criminals in cuba. Then they landed in vegas after cuba.

To this day the military industrial complex runs america quietly from the shadows.
Joe kennedy lost when the MIC got away with the Gulf of Tonkin scam and they went on to make billions during viet nam.

The military industrial complex, ran by murtha, calls all the shots from behind the scenes. They make the elected officials take the fall for their mis steps. Since they and murtha rule behind the scenes, they take the fall for no thing. When they do step into the limelight, they do it to appear to be a hero or a good guy.



posted on May, 9 2006 @ 03:19 PM
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From Cuban News Network (?):



Havana, April 26 (ACN) Notorious terrorist Luis Posada Carriles, who has been the mastermind of several terrorist activities against Cuba, will be interviewed this Wednesday in El Paso, Texas, by US immigration on the criminal's American citizenship petition. Read more


Also a Venezualian site just picked up the evidence, maybe because of the Peter R. de Vries broadcast or ATS, who knows:


Published: Tuesday, May 09, 2006
Bylined to: Monica Mercedes Perez Jimenez

The trail of blood that leads right to Daddy Danger ... George H. W. Bush

VHeadline.com commentarist Monica Perez Jimenez writes: I would like to commend my compadres in our "war on terror." We are fortunate to have these voices of reason. I urge our readers to explore the following web sites and authors. --- Wim Dankbar (JFKmurdersolved.com), John Hankey (JFKII ,The Bush Connection) Read more




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posted on May, 9 2006 @ 03:38 PM
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Originally posted by HardToGet
The film ends on a chilling note: How did George W. Bush enter this club to take his turn in the White House and become a "made" man? Well, Kennedy j.r.´s plane crashed while George W. Bush went missing for several days. If that´s not enough, how about 9/11? Mind boggling and very, very scary.

To all you Americans out there: It is about time to get to high ground. Could Alex Jones be right after all? Imagine.


According to Alex Jones, the Bush's have committed every crime in the world in the past 100 years which I for one am starting to find suspicious?

What I want to know is who gave the order to have JFK killed? That is most interesting of all and nobody here knows or even seems to care for that matter.

Just think we deep six GWB and put Hillary in the White House... seems like progress to me... YUP!



posted on May, 9 2006 @ 03:51 PM
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The Perfect Crime


Originally posted by denythestatusquo
Just think we deep six GWB and put Hillary in the White House...

Hey, she's the one who ordered the hit... on her sixteenth birthday!


And now, at long last, everything is coming together.



“Ehhhhhhhhhhhhxcellent!”



posted on May, 9 2006 @ 03:58 PM
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So Bill Cooper wasn't wrong then when insisted about the driver's involvement in the shooting. He strongly pointed out the driver's arm in the Zapruder footage.



posted on May, 9 2006 @ 04:18 PM
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Originally posted by Telos
So Bill Cooper wasn't wrong then when insisted about the driver's involvement in the shooting. He strongly pointed out the driver's arm in the Zapruder footage.


No, that´s been debunked. I saw some footage where it is clear that the raised arm is just a reflection of the co driver´s hair. That one had me fooled a while back too.



posted on May, 9 2006 @ 04:27 PM
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Originally posted by denythestatusquo
What I want to know is who gave the order to have JFK killed?


The order came from within the C.I.A. Must have. Who instructed them? Your guess is as good as mine. If asked to choose I would say a few men in a dark and smoky backroom of the Petroleum Club, Prescott Bush being one of those men.

Cross reference members of The Petroleum Club between 1919 and 1963 with graduates from Yale who were initiated into Skull & Bones between 1919 and 1963 and you will find the other potential candidates.

I would do that right now, but neither The Petroleum Club nor Skull & Bones seem to have a website up at this time... "Welcome to the Skull & Bones Society 322 website, please click here to search our member archives."


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posted on May, 9 2006 @ 04:46 PM
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But, basically, all they have besides this "Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon" web of interaction is the one little memo with the name of a "George Bush" on it, am I right? Are there any other documents directly linking any of the Bush clan to Dallas and JFK? Are they absolutely sure that the "George Bush" in the memo is the same guy who later became President?

I don't get it.



posted on May, 9 2006 @ 11:02 PM
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Interesting story I might add. I've always thought that the plot behind this assissination was a lot simpler than what most conspiracy theorists think, and that it was'nt much more than a mob-style skin job. Kennedy was annoying the whole oil/banking/weapons/drugs cabal hidden inside the government, so they just got rid of that "left-wing loonie" for the sake of "higher interests"...


I'm still doubtful that daddy Bush would have done so much for the CIA... a top agent? Perhaps, but this stil seems a little bit over the top to me that only one one person would have achieved such important tasks all by himself.

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posted on May, 10 2006 @ 12:22 PM
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Originally posted by Echtelion
Kennedy was annoying the whole oil/banking/weapons/drugs cabal hidden inside the government, so they just got rid of that "left-wing loonie" for the sake of "higher interests"...

Kennedy wasn't exactly what you'd call a left-winger. He was always very pro-military, and seriously considered dropping the A-bomb on Cuba. That whole push to the Moon thing was all militarily inspired, too. So the Reds couldn't get their Commie paws on it.

I buy the Mafia (irritated by Bobby Kennedy) working with disgruntled Bay of Pigs people scenario more than I buy big involvement by the CIA. Although that fine piece of snipering had CIA written all over it.

But you play with snakes enough, and you're bound to get bit.





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