JFK: The Ultimate Explanation -- The Involvement of George Bush Sr., page 2
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reply posted on 7-5-2006 @ 09:21 PM by denythestatusquo
Uh let's get this straight here... here is my argument as an example of the situation from a higher perspective:

Let's assume that:

I'm a guy and I have the power to kill the US president right?? and I wanna do it right?? (but in reality I do not want to harm anyone nor do I have the ability to do so in reality).

But don't I have to check with the REAL POWER that runs the world first?

I mean if I shoot the president will it not do some of the following:

- upset financial markets
- cause wild gyrations in commodities prices
- potentially cause an attack on the USA by an opportunistic enemy
- potentially cause someone to become president without the brotherhood's approval
- potentially cause chaos in the country

Without the support of the people at the top, the people that really run the world such as:

- International bankers/federal reserve
- all the alphabet agencies and not just the one I WORK FOR.
- military industrial complex
- The Rockefellers
- Israel
- required parts of the White House and Washington
- the Media

and others.

I saw Alex Jones lengthy video on the JFK assassination that someone linked to here and I checked out the material that this thread references to and while there is good ideas here and some new info which is leading us to resolution... the idea that this started and ended with the Bushes is assanine through and through.

If the Bush's go down on this then they will start talking and tell the world WHO REALLY GAVE THE ORDER TO HAVE JFK KILLED.

As some have pointed out this is a two headed monster:

1. Who did the dirty deed
2. Who ordered it and had the POWER to make it go down and stay secret all these years.

Number 2, is what we really want to know, furthermore consider how few people or groups or organizations have the far reaching power to literally control an entire country like the US such that the truth cannot come out despite the dogged efforts of so many valiant and patriotic citizens. Who?

[Edit suggested by Majic for clarification:]

[edit on 7-5-2006 by denythestatusquo]


reply posted on 8-5-2006 @ 08:21 AM by donwhite
posted by HardToGet: “Thanks guys. Ím almost done . . I will not put it on a server, but share it in the P2P domain. Keep you posted . . HTG


HTG, I have previously replied to one part of your definitive report on the JFK matter relating to the Bay of Pigs operation. I said there the CIA apparently had relied unduly on informants who were more enthusiastic than the facts on the ground would support. This was very early in the new Cuban regime. I’m thinking 1960. The CIA must have concluded the operation had better than a 50/50 chance of success. I assume that because after briefing Pres. Eisenhower and the Dulles brothers, John Foster and Allen W., Ike authorized a “go ahead.”

Castro’s revolution in Cuba was like our 1775-1781 Revolution, in that it was essentially bloodless. The dissidents were “allowed” to leave. Cuba is about 40,000 square miles, close to the size of Pennsylvania. The CIA Factbook gives the 2006 population as 11 million. In 1960, Cuba’s population was much less, I believe in the neighborhood of 6 million. Castro allowed the upper class, the major property owning class, and the professional class to leave Cuba. About 100,000 people. I heard from a reputable source that Cuba issued bonds for the property that was effectively confiscated, but the bonds do not bear interest nor do they have a due date.

Most of the Cuban expatriates moved to South Florida. Those people have remained there since their expulsion and have worked constantly to effect the return of their property which would necessarily require the change in the from of Cuba’s economic theory from socialism back to capitalism. This large group of eager anti-Communists fitted well into the American plan to disparage socialism and communism.

I bring all this up to remind that Castro did not exterminate that 100,000 people who now form the backbone of America’s unalterable opposition to Cuba in the person of Castro. If Fidel had known then what he knows now, perhaps he would have acted differently. Cf. the Russian Revolution which saw the extermination of all perceived potential enemies. The Chinese Revolution witnessed the same harsh treatment of the likely opposition by preemption. I have read that any Chinese person who owned more than 3 acres was executed. As a precautionary measure.

The United States has no truck with socialism. All successive American governments have worked hard to assure the failure of the Castro regime. Castro was “lucky” that the Soviet Union saw a propaganda coup for them by keeping socialist Cuba “alive.” Since 1991, Cuba has had to make it on its own. I do not know if a socialist Cuba can survive when Castro dies. That 100,000 angry, old and rich Cubans have multiplied and may number a quarter-million today. On the up side for Cuba, it looks that the spread of socialism in South America may well prove to be the “savior” of Castro’s Cuba.

OTOH, you can be sure the Oval Office is debating whether to try a re-run of the 1973 Allende in Chile type resolution to what we view as a “problem” in Venezuela and other SA countries. Capitalists do not take lightly socialists.

All American investment south of the Rio Grande is in real jeopardy. Coffee, bananas and vanilla. The owners of that property have mucho influence in Congress and maybe more in the quadrennial electoral process. When I hear a person complain about this or that public policy, I ask them, “How much money did you send your Congressperson last year?” Then I remind them Archer Daniels Midland - Senator Dole’s favorite charity - sends out millions of dollars every year to selected “representatives.” Surely ADM has a lot more "access" than the ordinary voter who has just one day every 2 years to speak his or her mind. Which "access" accounts in large part for the constant boost of ethanol as a fuel additive or alternate, often touted as a renewable resource, when in fact, ethanol is a net consumer of btus, and not a net provider of btus. But the South Carolina congressman said it well, “Money talks, ****-**** walks.”

Thanks, HTG, for a great assemblage of information vis a vis JFK.




[edit on 5/8/2006 by donwhite]
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