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intelligence documents show how more than 200 British Army rifles and sub-machine guns were passed to loyalists.
5-15% of UDR (Ulster Defence Regiment) soldiers were linked to loyalist paramilitaries
Originally posted by Knights
May I ask your stance in the whole scenario? As in biased towards Republicans or Loyalists.. I think I can guess but hey!
Interviewer- ' Who do you see as the enemy in your area'
Officer- 'The provisional IRA is the only enemy we have
Originally posted by MadGreebo
until the Labour party got in... oh and then it was pander to terror time
Originally posted by MadGreebo
Good on the British army for getting rid of IRA /PIRA 'soldiers' - what ever means needed to get the job done.
There is proof also that Irish Army and Police intelligence actualy gave information that led directly to the dearths of at least 6 members of the British defence Forces - yet oh suprise suprise theres none of that in your thread....oohhh la la what a suprise! (not).
Look, the war was dirty, fought on one side by an Army, and on the other side by a bunch of cowards who's main weapon was a car bomb or a knee capping..... oh so brave !
They protested that they were 'prisoners of war' and 'political' prisoners when it suited them, but oh did the IRA ever stick to the geneva convention? nope. treat prisoners well? nope tortured and shot them - Oh and killed Irish Catholic women who comforted wounded / dying soldiers...... Best of rid of scum like that - SAS or British weapons, what ever worked best.... until the Labour party got in... oh and then it was pander to terror time.... Tony tough on terror? well yes if their Muslims...but his 'Irish crusaders' ? never. Claire Short even DEFENDED the cross maglen sniper teams and terror teams...DEFENDED them in debate! (and as a member of the British cabinet??!!)
[edit on 3/5/06 by MadGreebo]
I am in no way denying that the Irish Army helped the IRA, but this thread is about the British soldiers arming the loyalists.
Originally posted by speight89
So you are celebrating British soldiers killing innocent men, women and children? I don't care what side they are on, killing the innocent is a total disgrace!
By the way, I was only talking about the collusion in the UDR because those documents have been released and have also been in newspapers. I am in no way denying that the Irish Army helped the IRA, but this thread is about the British soldiers arming the loyalists.
You must remember that the loyalists have also used car bombs and knee capings!
Originally posted by sminkeypinkey
It is also perfectly true to say that the 'peace process' came about because of a recognition (initially under John Major's tory government, actually) that neither side could force a military victory.
Once that fundamental truth (that a military victory could not be had by either side) was accepted on all sides (with the exception of the more insane but tiny fringe elements on each side) what else is there to do?
All that is left are political talks.
That is not "pandering", that is sanity.
It is the only sane thing left to do.
It is a sane and honest recognition of reality, to act responsibly and properly to stop the violence and any consequential additional casualties on all sides.