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Originally posted by Low Orbit
In response to the Iraqi,
well, ...First, the fact that Iran is a source of terrorism put them on the map. When Iran openly talks of supporting known terrorist groups economically, the rest of the world knows they also support the terrorist groups tactically and with equiptment and weaponry. That does not bode well for Iran.
Second, Iran is in the process of creating Nuclear Energy without the watching Eye of the UN. Also, Iran has deceived the UN for a few decades about its nuclear program, this story isn't new! This also raises doubt and concern about Iran's intentions.
Third, the leadership of Iran. The President of Iran threatens, on a weekly basis to "wipe off the map" one of the U.S.' closest allies, Israel. The President of Iran is responsible in driving up the price of oil another big no, no for anyone outside Tehran.
If a country is without friends right now it would be Iran and North Korea, who are coming to their aid? Which countries do we see aligning themselves with Iran for an upcoming conflict, the answer is there are none with the exception of Syria.
Do you truly think only the US and Israel will attack Iran?
Like the Religious leaders aren't already teaching American Hate over there, the only chance we have to stop terrorism is to stop where you preach it. Americans understand the magnitude of such a war with Iran, it will be much more difficult of a war than Iraq was, Many more people will die, and we will not see a winner for many years after, we know that. And many of us believe that just such a war would be worth it now, to stop once and for all Iran- a terrorist-wielding menace, set on bringing down the West. We cannot let this power this Ignorance and hate determine what middle eastern politics are going to be like for the next hundred years. Not for our sake, not for the sake of the people of the middle east.
Originally posted by Vitchilo
Read the real ``propaganda`` of the iranian president, he said that the governement of Israël, extremists zionists to be wiped off the map and he's totally true on this one as those zionists are racists and are killing the palestinians.
Originally posted by Intelearthling
It's obvious that the leaders of Iran have more mouth than they have brains.
Iran is going to mess right around and and bite off more than they can chew.
Israel has clearly shown more restraint than any other nation the world has ever seen, which it would be wrong to attack another nation becuse they've got a big mouth, even though Iran deserves it.
Iran and other Middle Eastern nations are fooled by Israels size so they think they can just run off at the mouth and provoke Israel into a confrontation.
Explosives tend to come in small packages and let us pray that Israel never has to unleash her power in the region. The stench of rotting Muslims will be carried over to the Western Hemisphere and we don't want that.
[edit on 2/5/06 by Intelearthling]
Originally posted by Apoc
Something just seems odd. Why is Iran so "talkative"? I mean if there was real fear of a war with US they would not be spewing forth all this rubbish and bluster. Wouldn't they be playing it close to the vest? Look mad what ramblings got Hussein in Gulf War 1. His supposed holy warrior "republican guard" came crawling out of their mud holes kissing the hands coallition soldiers without a fight. The fact is Iran is not a happy country. It's people are not happy and they are not all that wealthy. Part of me wonders if all this hot air is just to raise the global crude oil futures price which directly helps Iran's economy.
That being said, it would be NO CONTEST if Iran and the US got into it. Geez don't you people know what the US spends on the military? Do you know that you don't even know HALF the destructive technology at it's disposal?
The US "may" appear a bit unmighty as a few soldiers die to IEDs every month. But that is a whole lot different than vaporizing targets.
American is "trying to war nice" with Iraq. We are not fighting the country. We are trying to stabilize a situation to get out without the appearance of retreat. We could turn the whole country to glass overnight if we wanted to but that is not the goal.
In terms of other countries, no one would do ANYTHING. Why? Russia wants no part of the US and China wouldn't get into it with the one customer that keeps the country's economy rolling. The American Consumer is the best ally China has. They would not risk losing that.
Originally posted by Low Orbit
Nationalistic Pride has nothing to do with it, This is a matter of International Security. You are correct what one man calls a terrorist another calls a freedom fighter.
However the facts are for any rational American, a terrorist is one willing to take his own life and the life of random innnocent victims in the name of a cause.
Have you heard any of any conspiracy theories out there saying that CIA agents are blowing themselves up to defend the U.S. No, of course not, we probably couldn't find anyone that stupid to do such a thing.
If the Iranian Government honestly think that their Military and Tactics of Terror will be enough to prevent the US and Israel from acting in response to their Nuclear Program they are ready for a Rude Awakening.
Iraqi, I know the Iranians are working on a nuke, but the U.S. already has thousands of them, do you understand how stupid that makes President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad look? Do you understand how weak and scared that makes him look?
Vitchilo, what country are you in and what country are you from?
[edit on 3-5-2006 by Low Orbit]
[edit on 3-5-2006 by Low Orbit]
Originally posted by grimreaper797
Im sure when we listed to the CIA during the Bay Of Pigs they said it would be nothing.
Iran is not Iraq and you know this, so why compare the two?
There is a good difference between open war against israel and little terrorist plots.
If an attack starts coming, anything and everything is getting thrown at Israel and some of it is certainly going to hit.
They are going to take some serious damage is Iran just does a desperation attack.
Originally posted by SpinDropSmile
Vitchilo and Iraqi-King props to your arguments for being fact filled and not resorting to name calling. These two guys have put up facts and actually have a clue as to what is going on in the world. I read someone else state that they knew for a fact the Iran had nukes " WOW that informantion would be usfull to the American Government I'm sure they would go ahead and start killing now. For all these gung ho war promoters I have a question to ask. Have you ever seen a person die (harsh question I know) But coming from someone who has had a person die in his arms I can tell you its no as fun as some of you think. Nuking anyone is not going to solve the problem. All it would do is kill lots of people destroy families and strengthen the hatred for the American Governments. What you guys do if someone wanted to forcefully change America? I know you'll say we are to strong and will crush anyone if they tried but what if? Would it bother you if bombs were going off here? If someone didn't agree with way things are and just invaded and started bombing?
Now I not pro Iran or aniti American I am PRO-HUMAN and I really don't think killing and bombing is going to make things better for anyone.
Peace no really peace