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A 'What If': If the Aurora was Stolen


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Topic started on 1-5-2006 @ 07:44 AM by Browno


Just came up with ideas if someone/you has stolen the Aurora, What would happen and what would the person/you do with it if you stole it?

It could be similar to the Clint Eastwood movie 'Firefox'!



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reply posted on 1-5-2006 @ 07:48 AM by gfad


Ask any professional robber ...... he'll tell you it's pretty difficult to steal something that doesn't exist!!!!!!



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reply posted on 1-5-2006 @ 12:16 PM by vorazechul


Ha!
And who is so good to steal a super secret highly advanced aircraft from the government......well Klint Eastwood did it once but besides that noone can do it.



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reply posted on 1-5-2006 @ 12:30 PM by bodrul


sell it to russia or Iran or better still sell it back to the US
and then buy my self an island



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reply posted on 1-5-2006 @ 12:35 PM by Wembley


The situation would be analogous to Belenko's defecting to Japan with a MiG-25.
After being examined, it would be given back in crates by whichever rogue state sponsored the theft.

US response depends entirely on the politics of the situation, but could be anything from a sharp rebuke in the UN on up.



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reply posted on 1-5-2006 @ 12:36 PM by Figher Master FIN


Sorry to break the news... But HOW COULD THAT HAPPEND... yes, it is pretty hard to steal a plane that doens't exist...



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reply posted on 1-5-2006 @ 01:27 PM by warpboost


If the Aurora does exist, and you somehow iound out where it's stored and then managed to get to it, start it up etc.. I doubt you would get airborne or even taki to the runway before you were taken out

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reply posted on 1-5-2006 @ 01:32 PM by mlindahl


Does the Aurora exist? Maybe, maybe not. But and however...there were leaks and rumors about both the RS-71 (before it was released, it was the RS), and the F-117, and no one had the opportunity/intelligence/balls/manpower/etc. to steal something like that. It's just sheerly impossible. There are certain things you just don't do, and that is definitely one of them. When it comes to National Security, Dubya and his cronies (or should I say "Dubya's cronies and Dubya ) do not mess around.



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reply posted on 1-5-2006 @ 03:02 PM by Low Orbit


who suspects there is just one aurora?



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reply posted on 1-5-2006 @ 05:15 PM by mlindahl


Maybe it's just a decoy...I mean, they directly denied the existence of the F-22, the F-117, and the SR-71 before publicly announcing it. "Haha, just kidding guys...you were right all along!"



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reply posted on 1-5-2006 @ 05:27 PM by waynos



Originally posted by mlindahl
Maybe it's just a decoy...I mean, they directly denied the existence of the F-22, the F-117, and the SR-71 before publicly announcing it. "Haha, just kidding guys...you were right all along!"


I think you have been misinformed, I'm not old enough to remember the SR-71 being revealed but I can remember that there was never any outright denial of either the F-22 or the F-117, in the case of the F-22, the ATF programme was widely publicised from its very beginnings as far back as 1980, only the actual hardware was kept secret until it was officially rolled out, in public, well ahead of its first flight, with the F-117, we all knew it was there but we didn't know what it was called or what it looked like and the USAF/Govt etc simply said nothing at all.



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reply posted on 1-5-2006 @ 05:33 PM by Low Orbit


what about the U2 , Waynos was that ever considered classified information? If the Aurora should be compared to any jet it should be the U2 since its objective is the same.



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reply posted on 1-5-2006 @ 05:47 PM by mlindahl


Well, the Blackbird was first named the RS-71 Blackbird and during the announcement speech by one of the presidents (I forget his name), he mispronounced it as the SR-71 Blackbird, so they changed it. Many people saw this long aircraft being flown in the Mojave Desert (by Edwards AFB) and had no clue what it was. When they asked, they were immediately shot down because they didn't want anything being leaked out on accident.

As for the F-22 Raptor, we all know it was "modelled" after the YF-23, but it's design was just less expensive, so it won out. The battle of Lockheed and Northrop/McDonnell Douglas, and just the whole project itself was denied. Once again, the airplane was seen flying in the Mojave Desert, and people looked at it flying above and wondered what airplane could be making that wing-shape, as it had never been seen before. They questioned it, as did I, and was shot down. I asked my father about this, as he works as a Test Manager by China Lake. He also denied anything was going on. About 6 months later, I found out that he is also the F-22 Project Integration Coordinator for Edwards AFB and China Lake NAWC.

oops...said YF-22 instead of YF-23

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reply posted on 1-5-2006 @ 05:49 PM by waynos


The U-2 was certainly classified, as was the SR-71 and the F-117, its just that their existance wasn't admitted to, not actually denied.

I've always said that the Aurora has been secret too long (25 years and counting) for it to be real, all other classified aircraft (so far!) have been revealed in much less time than that. It might not be much of a theory, but its mine



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reply posted on 1-5-2006 @ 05:53 PM by Low Orbit


the way I like to think of it is it will always remain secret until we have a superior replacement to it.

Unless we can stop it, easily, we will not give it to our enemies to study.



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reply posted on 1-5-2006 @ 05:54 PM by mlindahl


^^^^^^^^^^

Read my last post.



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reply posted on 1-5-2006 @ 06:52 PM by cyberdude78


If somehow I ever stole Aurora I think my first thought would be "How the hell do I land this thing?".



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reply posted on 1-5-2006 @ 07:56 PM by WestPoint23


A Hypothetical situation along with a glimpse of how Westy’s mind works.

Ah, why would I want to steal it? A simple glance and perhaps a touch or two would suffice for me. One, I’m too pro US Military to do anything but give it right back to the Government. And two, knowing its real and knowing what it looks like would allow me to walk around with a superior and smug look on my face that personally would be worth millions!



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reply posted on 2-5-2006 @ 12:37 AM by uuhelpus


I think it would be very hard to steal something that almost certainly requires an in flight refueling once in flight. And whos to say that we do not have the capability to destroy this almost 20 year old design

-Excuse the spelling and grammer, insomnia has taken hold



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reply posted on 2-5-2006 @ 12:45 AM by uuhelpus




The U-2 was certainly classified....


I thought that it was passed off as a "High altitude weather research" aircraft and wasnt really classified it self, just its capabilites and mission.



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