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reply posted on 28-4-2006 @ 06:32 PM by Omniscient
Please, it has nothing to do with "equality for latinos". It has to do with the fact that people are illegally entering the United States. They have pointed out possible long-term problems that might come to pass as a result of this, as well as short-term problems that are already occuring. As for the fact that we are supposedly "promoting rascism" against Latinos the same as we "did blacks" in the past is ignorant; the reason latinos think they are being targetted is because there are far, far greater numbers of illegal latino immigrants than any other race. It has nothing to do with targetting them because we simply don't like them or think that they are inferior to other races and can't think for themselves (as blacks were though of not too long ago). These people who are turning this into a massive battle of rascism don't seem to know about what is going on. They act like we are being racially discriminative about the matter, but the fact is that if these laws are put into actions, illegal asian immigrants will suffer from the same consequences as these latinos, as well as illegal white immigrants. Political leaders realize the problems with these laws, such as the fact that the children of these illegal immigrants are for the most part, legal citizens of the United States, being born here. You then must understand that these illegal immigrants have none of the rights that american citizens have; so you can't state that they are being discriminated against because of their race.

The bottom line is it could have long-term problems for the United States, as well as short term ones. Political leaders are trying to deal with the matter professionally, and not trying to focus on the fact of racial discrimination because that is not the matter at hand. Most of the people protesting that I personally know have little idea of what they are even protesting for. The "wall" that has a possibility of being built along the Mexican border is just one of the few things political leaders can think of to reduce illegal immigration from its greatest source; however, I doubt that would do any good to slow it.

Don't think I'm being racially discriminative either. I am partially of Latin descent, and I also see the negativity that these laws could bring. Illegal immigrants account for something like 5% of our entire workforce; I realize the disastrous effects that that could have on the American economy; especially considering the type of jobs the majority of them have. I also realize that Mexico's economy relies on the billions of dollars sent from illegal immigrants back home to their families every year, and the effects that might have on their economy as well.

I guess you could say I see most of the positives and negatives of these immigration policies; but I don't like it when people try to make it seem like this is nothing more than a repitition of past events in which people were discriminated against; our political leaders are at least smart enough to have more than a reason than that to pass such policies.

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reply posted on 13-5-2006 @ 10:51 PM by razor1000
Originally posted by Omniscient
Originally posted by razor1000

yes yo are right thats why they should just legalize all of them and get them to be proper citizens they came here for the american dream. but before they try dealing with them, the gov needs to put a stop to the infiltration thats going on an all sides the current fight is just a battle securing the borders and ports is the real war.


I never said we should legalize them; that would be a promotion towards the illegal, which is bad as well.

I think we should possibly lower tolerance about incoming immigrants, but not make a HUGE deal about the immigrants that are already here. Another big issue is that many immigrants are starting to bring diseases into America that are/were nearly eradicated. If this continues, it could cause an eventual pandemic. There are so many sides to this immigration thing, it's hard to take one side. I partially remain neutral. I think some things should be done to prevent further immigration at the rates it has been occuring in recent years, but, yet, I believe that we shouldn't be incredibly harsh on the illegal immigrants already in the country; but, on the OTHER hand, I don't think we should make them legal citizens because that would be going against our Constitution, unless they went through the process to become legal citizens.

Wow, long sentence.

Omniscient.

you are right about keeping an eye on the borders but as far as diseases, more disease is spread from intercourse than from people coming over from another country. the only way to stop imigraation is to build a buble around this country, oviously this is not going to happen another way to stop imigration is to take over the world and make everything free. and yes they should legalize the peolpe here now so they can be more than they can be.
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