benevolent heritic, the attitude you are displaying toward my post is what i find so frustrating, just because i don't agree with you doesn't mean i don't ''get it'', i do get it, and i did read all the posts in the thread before posting myself, i still don't know what else socity as an institution can do to further the equal status of women.
past a certain point, equality legislation ammounts to preferental treatment, although the case is made that this is needed to redress the balance it
hardly equates to equality, therefore my argument is that any further advancement of women in socity must be achieved individually and on personal
merit, no other means can be used to ''change the attitudes of a patriarchical socity'', how can any person who has achived status through
preferential treatment expect to be ever taken seriously for their merits, no matter how good they are. so in that light, what more do you want.
also when i say severe disapline, i don't mean brutality, disapline through brutality teaches a child nothing except the use of butality, a
punishment should enforce the conciquences of the action, by harsh i mean overstating the fact. ie. if a twelve year old will not put their clothes in
the laundry, make them hand wash everyones clothes on a saterday, it's harsh but it teaches the child how lucky they are to simply have to use a
laundry basket in order to have clean clothes. these types of harsh punishment are traditionally left to the man, so i refer to them as masculine,
although i am well aware a woman could hand them out if she wanted.