Originally posted by urmomma158

bias yet again. You're on of those people that only listens to what is played on MTV what igorance!!! Rock is old, dead, not o mention garbage. Rap is for the new generation. What do SAt scores have anything to do with RAP why did you bring it up?

Yeh these are the sort of heroes that put me off rap. Your claiming bias!! read what youve just written Duuuude.

I think Rap is misspelled, it's missing a "C". That being said, I grew up in the Golden Age of Rock, the 70's and I LOVED Body Count. Not really Rap but a mutation of Rock and Rap.

IceT RULES!!!

It just like any other style you have good and bad, on the whole I don't mind a couple of tunes at a time. I like all style of music, country to heavy metal yea and even rap, but it must be good. But then again I'm just an old head-banger

Originally posted by intrepid
I think Rap is misspelled, it's missing a "C". That being said, I grew up in the Golden Age of Rock, the 70's and I LOVED Body Count. Not really Rap but a mutation of Rock and Rap.

IceT RULES!!!

Which is why it's outdated. Im don't wanna start smething here man.

Originally posted by Sauron
It just like any other style you have good and bad, on the whole I don't mind a couple of tunes at a time. I like all style of music, country to heavy metal yea and even rap, but it must be good. But then again I'm just an old head-banger

Now there's momeone with the right attude excellent post.

Originally posted by urmomma158
Which is why it's outdated. Im don't wanna start smething here man.

Things are dated? Good tunes are NEVER out of date, it's just the chillins that can't catch up.

I'm not trying to start something here. Just letting you know that NEW doesn't equal better.

cRap Music. Thats all it is. Boring talentless crap that glorifies ignorance,violence, racial stereotypes. Chanting several obscentities over baselines you ripped off from REAL bands is not talent. Its simplied garbage to stimulate dull minds.

cRap when it first started out was actually new, fresh, and innovative. Old skool, like breakdancing tracks, RunDMC, Beastie Boys, Easy E, Ice T, Sugar Hill Gang, ect. Back then, they really were exploring some new frontiers in music. Very impromptu, informal, and interesting. They were mixing some crazy sh*t that normally didn't mix together. But they pulled it off, and it was good.

Now any idiot with enough gold chains, limited vocabulary, and who can flash supposed gang signs can make millions. It aint an art form anymore.

And even though he was certainly in my generation, I do not understand how anyone can say Tupac was some kind of genuis and poet.

Even 2 Live Crew was more thought provoking than Tupac.

Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
And even though he was certainly in my generation, I do not understand how anyone can say Tupac was some kind of genuis and poet.

Even 2 Live Crew was more thought provoking than Tupac.

Tupac
Cops give a damn about a negro
pull the trigger kill a nigga he's a hero
Give the crack to the kids who the hell cares
one less hungry mouth on the welfare
First ship 'em dope & let 'em deal the brothers
give 'em guns step back watch 'em kill each other
It's time to fight back that's what Huey said
2 shots in the dark now Huey's dead
I got love for my brother but we can never go nowhere
unless we share with each other
We gotta start makin' changes
learn to see me as a brother instead of 2 distant strangers
and that's how it's supposed to be
How can the Devil take a brother if he's close to me?
I'd love to go back to when we played as kids
but things changed, and that's the way it is

Ok Skadi, how long have you lived in the ghetto? I can see how Sugar Hill Gang speaks to you more than Tupac, after all the message of sour macaroni and peas that taste like wood really mean something to the black community. Why bother listening to a message about brotherhood and unity, with lyrics like

"He can't satisfy you with his little worm, but I can bust you out with my super-sperm"

Again, I make the point of listening to things other than Mtv and Clearchannel communications as your source for cultural understanding.



[edit on 2-6-2006 by Rasobasi420]

Mod Edit: Derogatory content removed.


[edit on 12-6-2006 by TheBandit795]

Again, I have to repeat myself, THERE"S DIFFERENT KINDS OF RAP!!!!!!!!!!!NOT ALL OF IT GLORIFIES VIOLENCE, NOT ALL OF IT IS ABOUT RAP. *sniff**sniff* I smell Ignorance. Hey check out my rap on LAST TO POST WINS. Its hella clean. Peace out brothaz.

More Pac

Attempt to reach each and every brother on the streets
If not peace then at least let's get a piece
I'm tired of seeing bodies on the streets- deceased
Lookin' through my highschool yearbook
Reminiscin' of the tears as the years took
One homie, two homie, three homies - POOF
We used to have troops but now there's no more youth to shoot
God come save the misbegotten
Lost ghetto souls of Black Cotton (In God's eyes)

IF you can say nothing else, set aside the beat, this is poetry. It was written from the experience of a black man in the ghetto, who has long been oppressed, and uses words and poetry as his outlet. WHether you like it or not depends on your understanding of where he's coming from.

I CANNOT BELIEVE the back and forth bs going on in here....this is a conspiracy forum, come on now....

Rap and Hip Hop have been used and twisted by the illuminati imo...that's WHY all the mainstream rap (aka, radio, mtv, muchmusic, bet) you see and hear promotes either sex, violence, drug abuse and the such....IMO, the illuminati got a grip on the mainstream rap/hip hop scene after they killed Tupac And Biggie...and yes, I do believe they had the whole eastside/westside debachle set up up...with Suge being Pac's handler, and P. Diddy being Biggy's handler (remember, P.Diddy went to college, got into the producer biz through apprenticeships and what not, so I wouldn't be surprised if he's in cahootz with the elite)....and they had to get rid of Biggie and Tupac, cuz the way things were progressing, them 2 together could have helped start a huge movement amongst the lower class citizens, and the illuminati couldn't have that, atleast not back then, they wouldn't have been able to handle it back then, but now they are more prepared.....

And,any song that happens to get into the mainstream, that actually has something to say, could subtly be being used by the illuminati for different reasons...like, you might here a rap song talking about the illuminati, or the elite...but they will bring "the white man" into the mix...which only helps the illuminati with their racial splitting angle....

serious, I'm honestly very surprised at all the responses in this thread, considering the forum we're on here.....

I guess Im more old school when it comes to rap...I dont know if its me maturing or just the crap on the radio is pretty much the same old stuff now a days. To me, during the early nineties through 2002, there was a lot of new ideas, new expression out there. East coast had its style, west coast had its style...they were different. But as with any business in trying to make money, these styles got copied and imitated soooooooo much, that everything became a rehash. Then the dirty south style started getting big and thats about the time I started losing interest. Not to knock anyone, but I truly hate the dirty south style. Plus I think that in the early 90's, hip hop and rap had heavy political messages and gave us suburbanites an inside into the gritty inner city street life. Now that inner city street life is a cliche, where you got to ride rims and carry heat, and all these rappers supposedly still hustle and deal dope. Just the overall negativity of the content in most of todays rap has really turned me off. I still like Nas though, to me he warns people of the evils of the "gangsta lifestyle" and tries to get the message out there that there is a lot more to life then getting high, riding chrome, shooting other people and selling drugs to people

Nothing wrong with riding chrome, listening to loud music, or sagging pants. It is wrong, though to sell drugs, rape women, and kill people for no reason. There are other rights and wrongs but I'm too bussy to list them. Peace out, comrades.

Most "mass produced" rap is total junk. There are a few diamonds in the rough out there.

I remember a unique almost 70s sounding rap song, except it was also rapped in Japanese. It actually sounded pretty awesome.

Back in the day, we use to play, NO WORRIES!/
ignoring little babies and our friends, get burried/
watching all my friends growin up to be/
these dead beat products of society/

now I know life aint suppose to be fair/
child in a violent home, aint suppose to be there/
how can ya change when people never seem to care/
thinking that your just leechin off of welfare/

same people saying rid social programs/
but they aint livin in these crime lands/
dont give a damn, cause they tellin me that im a sinner/
but I gotta pay the gas bills, in the winter/

whatda they know?! aint walk a mile in my shoes/
think that they know my life cause they watch the news?/
Saying a women shouldnt be able to choose/
wait a second Im confused, choice aint a freedom to lose/


lil bit written by me just now. I have my music too, gotten pretty good, this was just off the top of my head.

Rap sucks most of it atleast . I still have alot of respect for GOOD rappers like eminem,tupac,notorious b.i.g.,pdiddy,and snoop dogg but thats about it all the rest blows how many times can you hear a song about chains cars and b!tches it gets tiring . ROCK RULES LONG LIVE ROCK

Originally posted by diazrichard
Rap sucks most of it atleast . I still have alot of respect for GOOD rappers like eminem,tupac,notorious b.i.g.,pdiddy,and snoop dogg but thats about it all the rest blows how many times can you hear a song about chains cars and b!tches it gets tiring . ROCK RULES LONG LIVE ROCK

Eminem?
Pdiddy?
Snoop?

Wow, we have very different ideas of good rappers.

gotta keep bone thugs n harmony in mind when we talk about the best.