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Are the U.S Concentration camps for Immigrants?!

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posted on Apr, 26 2006 @ 01:39 AM
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Ok, most of us here know about the U.S Concentration camps that have no one in them. I was thinking that they may be planned to be used for illigal immigrants, and it would make perfect sense. Here are some points I thought of:
1. They wanted to make illigal immigration a FELONY, which would mean jail time for a whole lot of people.
2. Immigrants arent the "upper class", so to some people they may be replacable.
3. Alot of people want immigrants "low cost work" but not have them around, so they may create a type of work program in the camps.
4. Immigrant use Hospitols, welfare, Emergancy services, etc. without paying taxes, which causes the economy to weaken.
5. If Americans took the jobs of illigal Immigrants, then it would just put more money in the economy, and the government would get more money for services that would be paid for.
Dont get me wrong, Im not discriminating against illigal immigrants, Im just stating the advantages for the government to put them in those camps. I think it would be messed up to put them in these camps, but its a possibility. Any thoughts on this?




posted on Apr, 26 2006 @ 01:57 AM
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Are the U.S Concentration camps for Immigrants?!

1st off, I hope not and I think not...
if a president from either party attempted to throw illegals in concentration camps for crossing the boader for whatever sound reason may be given to justify such an act would either cause impeachment or worse for the incumbant president. Liberals get upset when ranchers force feed livestock, if our government(US) made illegals work prison labor for crossing our border not only would the president be booted out of Office he would be potentially sitting on a civil war and a 21st century Mexican-American War. This would be political suicide.

Maybe they are for the people with a.d.d., jk.

Why would they have Concentration Camps, to be honest it is probably a "just in case" type measure to respond to a potential land Invasion(war) from another country, I truly have no idea why they would have them?

They could offer it to prisoners for early release or to earn cash on the inside?



posted on Apr, 26 2006 @ 02:07 AM
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If these camps are new its safe to say they are being readied for a reason. Whether to put what kind of prisoners I have no clue. But they dont just build many extra concentration camps. At least I dont think so. It does tell me they plan on taking many "prisoners" though. Scary that the USA under current leadership is turning into a Modern Day Nazi Germany. Crazy Days people.



posted on Apr, 26 2006 @ 02:38 AM
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does anyone have any pics of these camps. it would be interesting to see the lay out of these camps



posted on Apr, 26 2006 @ 07:41 PM
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Ryan, there was previously a link on the old ATS home page that would correlate to your request. I'd try doing a search for them.

While there aren't any positive proof photos, they are enough to speculate on.

I'll see what I can find for you.


As far as camps being used for immigrants, if they are in fact camps, I believe it could be a strong possibility. It does seem rather odd...like everything is falling into place, if you will. Although it would be a very bad idea.

[edit on 4/26/2006 by JBurns]



posted on Apr, 27 2006 @ 12:55 AM
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Originally posted by JBurns
I believe it could be a strong possibility. It does seem rather odd...like everything is falling into place, if you will. Although it would be a very bad idea.

[edit on 4/26/2006 by JBurns]


Yah, It would be a very bad Idea for them to put illigal immigrants there, but the government has done bad ideas before. Here are some links with pictures and other information on the camps.

hermes-press.com...

www.apfn.org...

Heres a video I found, but I havent watched it yet.

www.prisonplanet.com...



posted on Apr, 27 2006 @ 12:59 AM
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www.sploid.com...



1. They wanted to make illigal immigration a FELONY, which would mean jail time for a whole lot of people.


This bill got shot down. Infact, before it was shot down it was turned into a blanket amnesty.

Speaking of amnesty, If you look at what king george wants and has been speaking about. You will find that he wants total amnesty in an unlimited number. Meaning, all currenty illegals and all new illegals will be able to apply for amnesty and become citizens. All they have to do is smuggle themselves across the border.

That being said, and knowing that the concentration camps were a "no bid contract" given to KBR (haliburton subsidiary which we all know the cheney ties). At least, Leads me, to the conclusion that these camps are not for illegal immigrants. They're for american citizens.

It's easier to take over with your 30 million man army when dissidents are already in camps indefinitely.



posted on Apr, 27 2006 @ 06:46 AM
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if the camps were for immigrants, they would be placed in the bordering states. But as they are not, it leads me to believe that they aren't for immigrants.



posted on Apr, 27 2006 @ 01:44 PM
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Well if the camps arent for illegals than in my eyes there are two choices left. Neither is good as well. For War prisoners (inpending) or for A lot more US Citzens to join the ranks of the allready inturned in state & fed jails. Theirs an anticipation here that the Bush agenda isnt talking about. Very Strange to build so many supposed "extra" prison camps. Im going to seach for some links as well.



posted on Apr, 27 2006 @ 01:55 PM
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Question, where are these camps? How many camps are there? and when did they start to go up?



posted on Apr, 27 2006 @ 02:57 PM
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where are these camps?


All over the place really. From what i've understand they're from florida to alaska and Washington DC to california.



How many camps are there?


A lot. I haven't seen any reports or information in this regard. Alex Jones talks about it as if there were 100,000 of them. This doesn't seem very likely to me. I would like to know exactly how many there are aswell.



when did they start to go up?


hm. 2003/2004 is when they started converting closed military camps into detention centers to house protestors (republican national convention). I think the building of large scale detention facilities started shortly after.

[edit on 27-4-2006 by tsensel]



posted on Apr, 27 2006 @ 04:01 PM
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You see the reason I ask is because in the photo's given the camps look and little old, kind of like WW2 POW camps. Why wouldn't the government use concrete as apposed to wooden structure's as shown in the pic's? Can some one tell me where even one of these camp are located? And are they still being built? I don't doubt that they are going up I just want more info before I make any conclusions about them.



posted on Apr, 27 2006 @ 04:06 PM
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strike 1...strike 2....strike....3, one more terrorist attack folks, and that's it...

These people, will be rounded up like cattle. See they don't care. I wish I could go on the radio to talk about this. It just makes me so angry. I hate people who believe in the 9/11 original story. it is so annoying. Ughh...it just makes me so frustrated. But whatever you know, it's their own "mind control" problem, and lets face it,those kind of skeptics will never see the light. Too bad

On the other hand, those of us who are aware of what is taking place, knows exactly what's going on.



posted on Apr, 27 2006 @ 04:08 PM
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I don't doubt that they are going up I just want more info before I make any conclusions about them.


I haven't been able to find anything to that regard. If you find any pictures .. please share =)

Maybe google earth could help in this? Although i guess we would have to know the general area in which one was being constructed. I do not have that information.

[sarcasm]Has anyone happened to see any haliburton or KBR trucks rolling down the street towards a secret detention centor by their house?[/sarcasm]

I guess i shouldnt be so sarcastic, that is entirely possible.



You see the reason I ask is because in the photo's given the camps look and little old, kind of like WW2 POW camps.


Yes, in the link i posted the fence is even rusting/rusted



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These people, will be rounded up like cattle. See they don't care. I wish I could go on the radio to talk about this. It just makes me so angry. I hate people who believe in the 9/11 original story. it is so annoying. Ughh...it just makes me so frustrated. But whatever you know, it's their own "mind control" problem, and lets face it,those kind of skeptics will never see the light. Too bad


Please don't take this the wrong way. I'm speaking from experience here. But, going off like that is not going to convince anyone of your opinion. I'm also speaking about your posts in "I've worked inside the system for over 15 years" thread. If I was someone who wanted to disprove something like this. I would simply say "Look at this guy, all these illogical statements with no evidences. This guy is simply crazy. Why hasnt anyone thrown him in the loony bin?" This would then go a long way to disprove any further theories or evidences in the future. Take your time. Think it all out. Throw in some evidence. Make clear concise points. Also, when waking people up, you need to take baby steps. You cant just simply come out and say.

"The shadow government is satanic and worships the devil!". Ok, you probably couldve convinced someone there is a shadow government... but not after the satanic remark. Let them be convinced of the shadow government before you tell them about it being "satanic".






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posted on Apr, 27 2006 @ 04:25 PM
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So in other words there is no proof that these camps exist at all?
And I ment to say that I don't doubt that it is plausible that these camps are going up.



posted on Apr, 27 2006 @ 04:28 PM
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Originally posted by Mr Mxyztplk
So in other words there is no proof that these camps exist at all?
And I ment to say that I don't doubt that it is plausible that these camps are going up.


Other than the numerous news reports and evidence of the no bid contract going to KBR for the purpose of building detention facilities, no.

edit:

At least, if there is other evidence, I haven't been made aware of it.

[edit on 27-4-2006 by tsensel]



posted on Apr, 27 2006 @ 04:33 PM
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Can you direct me to where I might find more info, news reports that is?



posted on Apr, 27 2006 @ 04:37 PM
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Originally posted by Mr Mxyztplk
So in other words there is no proof that these camps exist at all?
And I ment to say that I don't doubt that it is plausible that these camps are going up.


Yes yes there is proof that these camps are up!!

Here, I have pictures.





and a link> www.freedomfiles.org...





barbed wire to keep people in? You bet..

Now, I would strongly suggest listening to Pam Schuffert, and most importantly Al Cuppet. You can listen to them here.

www.theedgeam.com click on the edge audio files and the names will be in alphabetical order.

here's another link for ya www.geocities.com...

Wake up peeps...this is not a free country, lol.

[edit on 27-4-2006 by truthisinyourFface88]



posted on Apr, 27 2006 @ 04:37 PM
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Originally posted by Mr Mxyztplk
Can you direct me to where I might find more info, news reports that is?


Google is your best bet. Just do a search for "Haliburton concentration camps" or "KBR concentration camps" or "secret detention facilities".

Secret detention facilities is more likely to provide you with links for the secret CIA prisons all around the world where they hold terror suspects. But this is worthwhile in its own right.


Originally posted by truthisinyourFface88
Here, I have pictures.


The last pictures looks like a picture i've seen before from guantanamo. As for the other pictures, the grass is overgrown, there are no concrete structures one might expect out of a detention facility. Like the pictures from the link i posted, the signs, fences, etc are rusting.

I would be intrested to know how long it takes something like a fence to start rusting. Growing up I lived on a farm. We had at least 20 acres fenced in. The fence at an age of 10 years show little rust, however it had to be replaced anyway because the lines lost a lot of their tension over that time.

The amount of rust i see is exponentially more than what i remember from our barbwire fence. This would lead me to believe that these fences and signs have been there for at least 10 years. Which is much much much older than the contract to KBR.

Edit:

Also, in the link you posted it gives several executive order numbers. I know for a fact that bill clinton signed executive order 13139 under his first term. Considering most of the EO's are in the 11000 series.. I would suspect that these were from George Bush SR's terms, or possibly even before that. Which would have been MANY years before the KBR contract.



[edit on 27-4-2006 by tsensel]



posted on Apr, 27 2006 @ 11:41 PM
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