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Why don't you like Alex Jones?

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posted on Jun, 1 2006 @ 07:14 AM
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i think that alex jones enjoys torture and human rights abuses as much as the next man as long as they are not happening to him, and with him in the public eye, he is less likely to suffer.
he looks like he ripped of so much of william coopers work(except for the alien stuff that alex does not talk about)
i once got a list of william coopers tapes, and it had alex jones as a guest once. next to his name, it was the word liar.

at the end of the day he is human, he has his faults, but sometimes has got some good info. but he is being used just as much as cnn, by who ever rules us.

tell me this, how the hell did alex get allowed into bohemien grove. are you telling me that the intelligence services did not know he was planning to do what he did. they would be monitouring him as he has quite a big following. though i have to say, he did admit once that they probably let him in, for what reason we do not know. i think he was being used, just like all the media is.

but like i said above i do not like the geezer, i think he gets as much fun out of torture and human rights abuses as the next person, just as long as they don't happen to him.


[edit on 1-6-2006 by andy1033]




posted on Jun, 4 2006 @ 07:59 PM
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Originally posted by nwomi
Alex is wack and is out to take advantage of people's pockets. I feel that he Fake's the funk!!! big time, only becuse he would have already been dead for reveling anything that is really important. The elittist would have a bullet in is brain for making their secrets public.

[edit on 25-4-2006 by nwomi]


1st if you have ever watched any of his videos, you will notice he encourages people to copy distribute them. This is not what you want if all you want is $.

2nd If the elitist put a bullet in his that would prove he is right.



posted on Jun, 4 2006 @ 08:15 PM
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Personally I think he presents the right info but puts people off because I think he watches too many WWF smackdowns

Talking in his best Undertaker voice just encourages people to switch off..

Alex if you are listening..I wouldn,t give you any confidential info because I,d be scared you,d use it in a showdown against Triple H..



posted on Jun, 4 2006 @ 11:15 PM
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Yeah... I was thinking about writing him a letter or something asking him to stop with the undertaker voice and to stop trying to scare people because (btw not a lot of these apply to myself)

1. It scares the # out of people
2. that turns people off to his documentaries
3.the undertaker voice is really stupid... I mean really... maybe that his normal voice
4.fear tactics make you look evil

More suggestions to alex jones
try to find places on the west coast that can be used as examples...
post up a link to the sight with the patriot act and I have yet to find the 2nd patriot act and the victory acts... patriot act alone scares the # out of me...



posted on Jun, 5 2006 @ 09:06 AM
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Originally posted by andy1033
tell me this, how the hell did alex get allowed into bohemien grove.

You mean besides the production crew that he was working with had worked it out with the group?

How did domhoff get access to the grove, interview its members, and make copies of its membership lists???



posted on Jun, 5 2006 @ 09:43 AM
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They didn't know about the camera or something.... They got very pissed over it...



posted on Jun, 5 2006 @ 09:47 AM
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Originally posted by TristanBW9456
They didn't know about the camera or something.... They got very pissed over it...


alex jones even admitted on his tv show, they probably knew what he was doing and let him in. those were his own words.

so even alex thinks they let him, now we have to ask why.



posted on Jun, 21 2006 @ 02:57 PM
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Originally posted by nwomi
Alex is wack and is out to take advantage of people's pockets. I feel that he Fake's the funk!!! big time, only becuse he would have already been dead for reveling anything that is really important. The elittist would have a bullet in is brain for making their secrets public.

[edit on 25-4-2006 by nwomi]


Alex Jones is on YOUR SIDE! He is trying to warn American People!! He need to sell things to continueing broadcast and warning people...


ups, sory for my English..


Alex Jones on 911

[edit on 21-6-2006 by Amon_Ra]



posted on Mar, 22 2008 @ 01:28 AM
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I watched Alex Jones DVD Road to Tyranny and I have to conclude that Alex is either a Madman or a ConMan. Maybe a little of both. He mixes a little truth, with a lot of fabrication and nothing short of twisting facts. I have half a century of study and experience in the events he depicts and then assigns a ratical deceptive intrepretation instead of understanding that these events are common. He rides the wave of fear expressed in the book 1984, which was a warning of what could happen. Jones panders to those that have little to no historic or personal knowledge regarding the events he presents. Much of his material is out right lies. I notice that people that have an axe to grind or ignorant foreigners eat this up, and there is always the young, stupid and unbalnced among us. I have a big axe to grind with our leaders but I do not feel free to fabricate, nor make wind fall profits feeding on the fears of others. I have no respect for Alex Jones after watching his films and reading his material.



posted on Mar, 22 2008 @ 09:51 AM
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Anyone with a basic level of intelligence should not bother wasting their time and energy listening to Alex Jones. I use to admire the man before I started doing my own research.

Firstly, he is a conservative nutcase. His method of discrediting Arnold Schwarzenegger consisted of continuous highlighting of "gay porn"; this gay tag also applies to Bohemian Grove (according to Alex Jones) who thinks the elite hate women and are conducting homosexual activities at the Grove. Secondly, keeping with the gay topic, Alex Jones believes the NWO are aiming to turn your children gay (He is accused of being homophobic throughout his career)


But what is utterly hilarious is Alex depicating and painting Hilary Clinton as a family hating socialist aimed at destorying America. If you, like me, understand the ideology of what is socialism then you will conclude Mrs.Clinton is far from it.

His disrespect to people like David Icke is rude and unfair. Mocking him and accusing a fellow man of being "apart of the conspiracy" is just typical Jones. Alex believes Icke is given air-time because of his reptilian beliefs are easy to dismiss all conspiracy theorists *yawn* At least David does his own detailed research and gives evidence, unlike the google searching so called "theorist" Alex Jones.

Some may read my cynicalism is mixture of hatred and a sprinkle contempt, which is true, but I refuse to bow down and worship a demi-god who illustrates himself as the new messiah. Unlike Jesus, everything Alex Jones touches turns to ash. His remarkable skill at destroying Ron Paul's reputation and making him out to be a tin-foil wearing candidate, who thinks the federal government wants to drink the warm blood of its citizens, is priceless
Well done to Alex Jones for giving ammunition to the media and rival candidates


This rant will end with some advice to my fellow members. Never believe a man who accuses many of profiting from 9/11, when he is doing the same thing.



posted on Mar, 22 2008 @ 10:39 AM
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Who knows, maybe people need someone like Alex Jones to shout "police state"? After all, civil liberties around the world keep stagnating into new levels of control.

Anyway, my "problem" with Jones is probably how he gets his information, for example, how he tells the viewer to "google it". You could just as well replace that with "I've heard it" or "someone told me".

On the other hand, it is interesting that he managed to print a lot of news for actual evidence, but there is a problem here too. Just because an article mentions "brain chips", it doesn't mean that we all will be injected with microscopic chips within the next few years.

You have to keep in mind that the media spins some of these "edge"-stories. If there is an article of new types of robots, the article will probably make some sort of joke about it, like saying the robots will control us all soon. But, the cleaner-bot has been around for, what, 10 years? My point is that Jones use these jokes as serious comment of what is to come.

Also, Jones claims that the media is controlled by the elite, thus the elite is in full control of what news is to be released. But at the same time, Jones uses the same news as evidence.

And there is also the issue with the Bohemian Grove "infiltration". A Brittish journalist, Jon Ronson, went with Alex. Ron interviewed Alex about his beliefs and his thoughts, and also mentions how Alex came into the grove. In short, Alex does not mention the fact that entering the grove is very easy - you simply walk through the front gate. It seems Alex himself created the impression of heavy security and secrecy, thus his decision to sneak in through the woods.

Alex even mentions how security guards, at some points in the grove, stops them and asks them questions of who they are, and yet they are never thrown out.

Anyway, check it out:

en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Mar, 22 2008 @ 11:06 AM
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Alex Jones is religious too and this means he tends to ignore any conspiracy linked to organised religion. At the "infiltration" of the grove, Jones did describe the place as a monolithic bed of Satanism and criticised the world leaders as being "fake" christians. Yet, nothing Satanic was ever shown at the grove, only old fashion pagan worshipping.

However, David Icke and other conspiracy theorists will highlight cover ups by the Vatican and other religious institues. Even going as far as describing organised religion as apart of the New World Order. Alex Jones does not share or accept those sentiments. It is quite compelling how infowars and propaganda matrix will only accept information that represents and promotes their views.

Notice how Alex Jones has never mentioned the Christian Right



posted on Mar, 22 2008 @ 12:09 PM
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Originally posted by infinite

Other conspiracy theorists will highlight cover ups by the Vatican and other
religious institues. Even going as far as describing organised religion as
apart of the New World Order. Alex Jones does not share or accept those
sentiments.



Alex Jones is a excellent and probably the best conspiracy expert. Is
sources ,news and investigation are reliable and great.

BUT you are right Infinite...,WHY DOESN'T HE TALK ABOUT THE VATICAN
AND THEIR IMPLICATION ON THE NEW WORLD ORDER AGENDA.


I am a atheist, so i am not afraid of accusing the Roman Catholic Church
for what they did and still do.

I am not insinuating anything...i am just saying that this is the most
weakest point on Alex Jones attitude.

He was courageous enough to attack, the president, all international big
corporations and powerful world Elites so WHY is he '' IF HE IS... '' SO
AFRAID OF ACCUSING THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THE
VATICAN.

Alex Jones could gain back a lot of credibility, if he would investigate the
Roman Catholic Church to see if they are the real Illuminati and the
powerful Empire behind the New World Order Agenda or if they are
part of the Elites that want to control our futur..!

And then we all could say that he is the best conspiracy espert and
a leader in the Revolution, against the New World Order Agenda..!

But Will he.....

Achilles13



posted on Mar, 22 2008 @ 12:58 PM
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And then we all could say that he is the best conspiracy espert and
a leader in the Revolution, against the New World Order Agenda..!


He is, in fact, not the best or even close to being the greatest expert on the New World Order.

Yes, David Icke can be abit "far out" but read one of his books. The detail and vast amount of data collected is amazing. Each chapter has a dozen references, from independent sources, not googled or prinited off a mainstream news site.

Alex Jones just comes across as lazy, naive and a prima donna. I'd like to see what Jones is like off camera, many will pay good money to see what he is really like. You should never judge a book by its cover, but there is something about him that I do not like or cannot trust.

Example; On July 7th, he was screaming "conspiracy!" within five minutes of the attacks. No research, no evidence, just his paranoid money grabbing personality whoring for attention.

We tried getting him to come to ATS countless times. I tried about twice, another member tried as well and I think the staff may of tried too (can't confirm it). Never responded to our e-mails, just ignored us. We explained how many ATS members admired his work, but he probably felt we were not "big enough" for him. Correct me if I am wrong, but if your mission in life was to fight and warn the population against the NWO, why ignore the Internet's largest conspiracy/alternative site? Doesn't make sense.

I took his rejection as a spit in the face towards his fans at ATS. I'll put it bluntly, he does not give a flying [insert offensive word] about his fans.



posted on Mar, 22 2008 @ 01:32 PM
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Originally posted by truthseeka
So...why don't YOU like Alex Jones?


Because he's one of Them.



posted on Mar, 22 2008 @ 02:05 PM
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Originally posted by infinite

Correct me if I am wrong, but if your mission in life was to fight and warn
the population against the NWO, why ignore the Internet's largest
conspiracy/alternative site? Doesn't make sense.

I took his rejection as a spit in the face towards his fans at ATS. I'll put it
bluntly, he does not give a flying [insert offensive word] about his fans.


Very good point Infinite..!

To Bad, but i thing he may prefer success more, then having the mission
to fight and warn populations against the NWO..!

He brought a lot to help solve conspiracy theories but he will probably never
do everything to put light on the NWO. i don't have anything against him,
making money out of it, but if you fight for freedom, that is suppose to be
your number 1 motivation, not fame ,money and popularity

Unfortunately, I thing he will never go as deep as he should to be solving
the matrix of the New World Order and the illuminati and he will never investigate
the Roman Catholic Church and the Vatican, so he will never be the best
conspiracy theorist.

But i hope there will be one.....

Achilles13



posted on Mar, 23 2008 @ 07:29 AM
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I've looked into Alex's work a lot and listened to his show for a while. Hes for real. He get excited at times, but he has every right to considering the facts. From what I have seen, most of the criticism towards Alex is totally trumped up and baseless. Some of you are almost pathetic in how you attack him.
Most of that is nonsense mockingbird talk. Funny how Alex gets some very emotional responses around here.



posted on Mar, 23 2008 @ 08:05 AM
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Have you seen the Bohemien Grove footage? I notice the camera was in quite a poor position and, to be honest, apart from the ritual nothing else solid was captured on the film.

There is a researcher, cannot remember his name, who was a student at Yale. He recorded hidden footage from the Skull and Bones Tomb*. Pretty amazing stuff. Why can't Jones get any hardcore footage?

And, what lost him major respect was a comment he made on a British documentary about the illuminati. Alex Jones said he was "roughed up" and recieved threaten phone calls from the illuminati...other researchers were sceptical because no other journalist has recieved such threats. Some went as far as calling Alex Jones a liar over it.

Even his fans tell me Mr.Jones has a habit of distorting information. But again, his attack on fellow researchers, like David Icke, is unfair.

*U2U me and I'll find you the footage on YouTube.



posted on Mar, 23 2008 @ 11:31 AM
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I really like both Alex Jones and David Icke. While they sometimes interpret the facts in different ways, they both have a lot of the same views.



posted on May, 18 2008 @ 10:59 PM
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Alex Jones is bat-# crazy!!! No one should take him too seriously....keep an eye on gov. but don't go nuts that's waht i think. I like Bush. GOOD CHRISTIAN MAN.




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