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Is there really secret Bible scriptures being kept from us?




Topic started on 25-4-2006 @ 04:57 PM by Petrifiedmetal


I have been told that there are scriptures that were supposed to be in the bible but are locked in a safe in the Vatican, is this true, and if so what do they contain.



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reply posted on 15-11-2006 @ 09:30 PM by resistor


It's certainly true that in the middle (dark) ages the Church of Rome held almost total hegemony over the Holy Scripture and told the people only what they wanted them to believe, but since the invention of the printing press, and the bravery and martyrdom of Tyndale, et al, who gave their lives to bring the scripture to the masses, the Word of God is once again available to all.

The most ancient manuscripts from which our translations are taken have long since been made available to generations of scholars to study, and with the dead sea scrolls confirming their veracity, I see no reason to think we are missing anything that God wishes us to have. Even all the books that are considered 'apocryphal' are easy to access. I personally think the Book of Enoch is inspired.

I personally think that God would not allow His Word which he said 'would never pass away' to remain hidden from those who seek the truth.



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reply posted on 15-11-2006 @ 09:41 PM by Nygdan



Originally posted by Petrifiedmetal
I have been told that there are scriptures that were supposed to be in the bible but are locked in a safe in the Vatican,

THink about it now. The vatican has been around for how long?
And christianity has been around for how long?

If anyone suppressed works that were intended for the gospels, it was the greek orthodoxic church, which long predates the papacy.


resistor
It's certainly true that in the middle (dark) ages the Church of Rome held almost total hegemony over the Holy Scripture

Thats incorrect. The Roman Church had no sway over what the Greek Church but in the bible or to beleive about it. Nor did it have any control over why the Eastern Churches put in the bible or what to beleive about it. The only reason that people in the west didn't read bibles was because they were largely a mob of illiterate peasants, who couldn't even read their own langauge, let alone Latin.



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reply posted on 16-11-2006 @ 10:07 PM by littlebird


well lets pull up a thread and see it. we can all gauck at it , and ponder it in the depths of hell. religion is lies, coverups, disception GEE SOUNDS LIKE OUR GOV'T. no wonder the two don't get along. no wonder we are all messed up in thinking. we do not know the truth all we know are the lies. lies are better, that way we get away with the bull shhhhhh. i hate religion. it is the evil of society. the bible was made by man. and man concocked some stupid story that a prophet or someone of god wrote it. WHATEVER YOU EVIL ONES , lie and deciet to cover up the truth of the matter. like the salem witch trials. all stupid, to cover up the truth and more lies and more lies till the people were literally frightened for their lives and made stories up. religion is like this , plenty of stories to tell, but where is the truth. PRAISE THE LORD, i tell ye praise the lord and pass the money bucket. i praise the lord, look at the money bucket. it is going to heal the sick, look it has already healed me , im sick , see i feel better now , praise the lord for the money bucket. praise the lord, look at him walk where he has not before, look he can now see. see he sees the money bucket, praise the lord. WHAT A BUNCH OF HOGWASH RELIGION IS.



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reply posted on 9-12-2006 @ 11:15 PM by resistor



resistor
It's certainly true that in the middle (dark) ages the Church of Rome held almost total hegemony over the Holy Scripture

Thats incorrect. The Roman Church had no sway over what the Greek Church but in the bible or to beleive about it. Nor did it have any control over why the Eastern Churches put in the bible or what to beleive about it. The only reason that people in the west didn't read bibles was because they were largely a mob of illiterate peasants, who couldn't even read their own langauge, let alone Latin.


Really? I guess the Roman Church had no power over China or India either? What a suprise!

Of course I was speaking of the west where Rome held sway. And just how many people do you think could read Latin (or their own language), in the middle ages? The vast majority were of course dependent on their religious leaders to tell them what the scripture said. Those Christians in the East were quite blessed that their leaders were less abusive than those in the Church of Rome, but let's not pretend that the Orthodox Church is without its problems.

[edit on 9-12-2006 by resistor]

[edit on 9-12-2006 by resistor] still can't get this quote crap to work-I think you get it though.

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reply posted on 10-12-2006 @ 09:20 AM by BattleofBatoche


There appears to be something going on with hidden/lost/occult knowledge being kept secret from the masses. One day I'm convinced that the cursed order of Catholic Jesuits is behind everything, then a day later I'm convinced it's the evil Synagogue of Satan who follow the Jewish Talmud instead of the Torah. Then I think it's the esoteric freemasons, not the blue lodges but upper echelons of 32 & 33 degrees or higher but then they are all mixed up in Jewish Kabbalah along with Hollywood Actors and musicians (Madonna) (holy-wood) pagan celts?
Then I find out about the "Crown" & the city of London, the Knights Templar & Bank of England & its long arm of the law the BAR.
The Queen of England is head of the "Order of the Garter" which you can watch the masonic ceremony on PBS which also represents the head of all Witches & Wicca. The Emperor of Japan is a member.
The British Monarchy all wear the Cross of Malta a Catholic Order but claim to be head of the Anglican Church. Hitler was a Catholic? Top SS. were given Vatican passports and smuggled to South America near the end of WW2 and the Head of the German SS started the CIA?
Therefore all one can do is read as much as you can get your hands on.
One thing I know is the Apocrypha contains Macabbees which talks about breaking contracts & bonds of Rome then says Jesus' true form is a feathered serpent? King James removed this? why?
Queztacoatal? Aztecs & Myans? December 2012.
The book of enoch talks about Metatron time keeper also a feathered serpent. Lucifer a feathered serpent? David Ike and the lizard people, the DOORS and the lizard king??
Its a big stinken mess for the WORD CONTROLLED CREATURES called "humans" which are re-defined as monsters unfit to own property in early legal dictionaries.
Just start with your local Acts of Parliament (speak-lying-thoughts) parle - french for speak/ lia - lie / mente - greek for mind.
Acts of Parliment are just like Acts in a play they have no actual power if you truly understand what words truly mean in a court of law.
Legal fictions, ships, charters, corporations, provinces, states, princes--persons natural & artificial. Maritime Admiralty Law vs. Common Law?
Why is computer programing language filled with esoteric terminology? Why is the law filled with spiritual & esoteric terminology? Lilith Adams first wife according to the Jews who rebelled & wouldn't submit to Adam and never took the knowledge of the Tree of life and is an immortal demon now aslo the name of a gov't computer system? In Dungeons & dragons I learned what coporeal & ethereal along with numerous esoteric knowledge & spells etc. To bring something to power in law you incorperate a company? Corpse--dead. coporeal--ghosts-not in this physical plane?
From my research one thing I can truly say is that there are NO Muslims hiding in caves trying to get us in the west. Its our own gov'ts behind this crap & the our laws are based on ROME to this day and everything is a contract that you must agree to. Don't accept anything from the gov't cause their are ALWAYS hidden strings attached.
I'm moving to the country & gonna disappear. LET GOD sort it out!
WE ARE TRULY F##K#D!!



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reply posted on 10-12-2006 @ 10:20 AM by madnessinmysoul


would it really matter if they were?
what super secret things would "the church" have to keep from the general populace, and how would it really affect the way we think

honestly, many of the protestants would say this hidden scripture isn't part of the bible because the bible is already infallible and perfect

the greek orthodox would look at it and make their decision
and the roman catholics would be forced to add it in

but what massive secrets could they possibly hold?



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reply posted on 19-2-2007 @ 01:01 AM by Astyanax



Originally posted by Petrifiedmetal
Is there really secret Bible scriptures being kept from us?


Yes, of course there are.

The bit about how the Philistines were stricken with haemorrhoids after pinching the Ark of the Covenant, well, there was a lot more detail in there, and it wasn't just haemorrhoids either.

Then there's that recipe for the perfect vodka martini in St. Pookie's Epistle to the Blottorians, they suppressed the whole epistle on account of that. Didn't even make the Apocrypha.

They say the wine merchants were behind that one.



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