I have been told that there are scriptures that were supposed to be in the bible but are locked in a safe in the Vatican, is this true, and if so what do they contain.

It's certainly true that in the middle (dark) ages the Church of Rome held almost total hegemony over the Holy Scripture and told the people only what they wanted them to believe, but since the invention of the printing press, and the bravery and martyrdom of Tyndale, et al, who gave their lives to bring the scripture to the masses, the Word of God is once again available to all.

The most ancient manuscripts from which our translations are taken have long since been made available to generations of scholars to study, and with the dead sea scrolls confirming their veracity, I see no reason to think we are missing anything that God wishes us to have. Even all the books that are considered 'apocryphal' are easy to access. I personally think the Book of Enoch is inspired.

I personally think that God would not allow His Word which he said 'would never pass away' to remain hidden from those who seek the truth.

Originally posted by Petrifiedmetal
I have been told that there are scriptures that were supposed to be in the bible but are locked in a safe in the Vatican,

THink about it now. The vatican has been around for how long?
And christianity has been around for how long?

If anyone suppressed works that were intended for the gospels, it was the greek orthodoxic church, which long predates the papacy.

resistor
It's certainly true that in the middle (dark) ages the Church of Rome held almost total hegemony over the Holy Scripture

Thats incorrect. The Roman Church had no sway over what the Greek Church but in the bible or to beleive about it. Nor did it have any control over why the Eastern Churches put in the bible or what to beleive about it. The only reason that people in the west didn't read bibles was because they were largely a mob of illiterate peasants, who couldn't even read their own langauge, let alone Latin.

well lets pull up a thread and see it. we can all gauck at it , and ponder it in the depths of hell. religion is lies, coverups, disception GEE SOUNDS LIKE OUR GOV'T. no wonder the two don't get along. no wonder we are all messed up in thinking. we do not know the truth all we know are the lies. lies are better, that way we get away with the bull shhhhhh. i hate religion. it is the evil of society. the bible was made by man. and man concocked some stupid story that a prophet or someone of god wrote it. WHATEVER YOU EVIL ONES , lie and deciet to cover up the truth of the matter. like the salem witch trials. all stupid, to cover up the truth and more lies and more lies till the people were literally frightened for their lives and made stories up. religion is like this , plenty of stories to tell, but where is the truth. PRAISE THE LORD, i tell ye praise the lord and pass the money bucket. i praise the lord, look at the money bucket. it is going to heal the sick, look it has already healed me , im sick , see i feel better now , praise the lord for the money bucket. praise the lord, look at him walk where he has not before, look he can now see. see he sees the money bucket, praise the lord. WHAT A BUNCH OF HOGWASH RELIGION IS.

resistor
It's certainly true that in the middle (dark) ages the Church of Rome held almost total hegemony over the Holy Scripture

Thats incorrect. The Roman Church had no sway over what the Greek Church but in the bible or to beleive about it. Nor did it have any control over why the Eastern Churches put in the bible or what to beleive about it. The only reason that people in the west didn't read bibles was because they were largely a mob of illiterate peasants, who couldn't even read their own langauge, let alone Latin.

Really? I guess the Roman Church had no power over China or India either? What a suprise!

Of course I was speaking of the west where Rome held sway. And just how many people do you think could read Latin (or their own language), in the middle ages? The vast majority were of course dependent on their religious leaders to tell them what the scripture said. Those Christians in the East were quite blessed that their leaders were less abusive than those in the Church of Rome, but let's not pretend that the Orthodox Church is without its problems.

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[edit on 9-12-2006 by resistor] still can't get this quote crap to work-I think you get it though.

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would it really matter if they were?
what super secret things would "the church" have to keep from the general populace, and how would it really affect the way we think

honestly, many of the protestants would say this hidden scripture isn't part of the bible because the bible is already infallible and perfect

the greek orthodox would look at it and make their decision
and the roman catholics would be forced to add it in

but what massive secrets could they possibly hold?

Originally posted by Petrifiedmetal
Is there really secret Bible scriptures being kept from us?

Yes, of course there are.

The bit about how the Philistines were stricken with haemorrhoids after pinching the Ark of the Covenant, well, there was a lot more detail in there, and it wasn't just haemorrhoids either.

Then there's that recipe for the perfect vodka martini in St. Pookie's Epistle to the Blottorians, they suppressed the whole epistle on account of that. Didn't even make the Apocrypha.

They say the wine merchants were behind that one.

There is the Book of Enoch. It was removed from the bible back when the Catholic church was battling for primary rule. The Book of Enoch was an account of a man having a relationship with God with out the church. Cant be having any of that now can we. They sat on the book, until the vatican had to open its libraries allowing others to read the scrolls. If you read the book, it answers a lot of questions, or at least it did for me. I was raised catholic, and often drove the teachers and priests batty with my questions. A lot of our beliefs and rituals if you want to call them that were no where to be found in the bible, but they are there in the book of Enoch. SO it seems they sat on the book, while continuing to practice what it knew in an attempt to keep the upper hand labeling themselves the only true "Christians". The book, filled in a lot of gaps for me.

There were also a lot of books that were burned or forbidden to be added because they did not include the name of God anywhere which I find quite amusing since they have removed his name completely from the bible now. There were also books that have been found since then that have not been added because it was deemed "too late" so they keep them in the vatican library to themselves also.

There was a purpose at one time for religion. It was the story of the zodiac and events to come. They have been hidding everything from our past. Most people are to brainwashed to even begin to see how serious what they did was. The only thing you need to know is what happened before the flood. The rest is a take over, new age Jesus religion is as old as the stars only if Jesus realy existed, he was telling people what I am saying now.

The book of enoch was before the flood, most of these texts are mistranslated but if you learn to read enough of them you will see what they have done and you will realize that most of the people on earth will either be to dumb to learn what you have or will not have the time. And still with their petty little bits of new world info they will claim they know something.

The truth is you dont know anything if you are getting your information from most of the sources in the past 6000 years, thats how long they have been working on our current mental state. Read the book "old world secrets the omega project codes", it will start you on the right path.


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