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Iran dug their own hole, NUKE THEM

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posted on Apr, 21 2006 @ 10:17 AM
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posted on Apr, 21 2006 @ 10:23 AM
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Im not saying kill randomly.. Im saying that we should get the ball rolling on the mass genocide of religious fundamentalists. Im not worried about being killed because I moved out of the United states to persue work in Germany. I deny my countries ignorance as much as Irans so Im all about war when it comes to exterminating people that have counter productive beliefs. When the war is over then people who are left might learn from the mistakes of religion and work together for a more globalised economy in persuit of academic excellence and technology.

If you subtract religion from society you have a body of people that are more naturally geared towards intelligence and social cooperation. The reason we have all the problems we have now with this war on terror is due to religion. Lets do away with it for the greater good of mankind. Sure its drastic but its just a theory and I dont see what you dont understand.

Im not taking a pro american stance here, im advocating a new world order



posted on Apr, 21 2006 @ 10:26 AM
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You have voted nephyx for the Way Above Ignorant Award


I hardly know where to start with such stupidity, but I'll just go for your last post.


Originally posted by nephyx
China did away with religion and they are doing pretty damn well.. but then again some of you consider this evil.

China never did away with religion, and you might have noticed that they have greatly increased freedom of religion as they have started to do "pretty damn well". You might also want to check your definition of "pretty damn well" as in terms of wealth per head China is very low down the tables. The GDP per head in it's poorest province is about $280, roughty the same as Bangladesh. Although as a high powered businessman you must know all this.

I'm an atheist, and believe that the world would be a better place without religion. I can agree with you on that. Where we differ is that I'm not a moron. So I don't think that nuking a country into the stone age, killing 40 million people in the process, will bring about a worldwide socialist utopia. In fact it would probably bring about the collapse of our civilisation.



I Consider it a necessary evil for the betterment of mankind.

That's exactly what Hitler said of the Holocaust.



posted on Apr, 21 2006 @ 10:37 AM
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Granted this isnt a simple solution but in a perfect world Religion will be viewed as a criminal mentality. Wake up and smell the BS, its called RELIGION. End the ignorance, destroy those causing it, THEN we can focus on peace. If anyone choses not to hop on the ship with us then screw em, the world has an overpopulation problem anyway..


Steady on Chap!

I think your running away with yourself a little bit. Youre going to upset a few people here by constantly popping at religions. Ive recentley found a nice quiet peace by being introduced to buddhism....youve got to be fair...everybody gets cheesed off with the funamental extremists that are drawn to nearly all religions but you cant just keep hitting at Islam?.... not only is your reason terribley biased but its getting pretty boring.

If we look at modern day Germany, weve still got huge groups of Nazi loonys spreading uneducated words of hatred, they get confused all the time with the British National party; all though to be fair their have been proven links between some of both groups members, i do admire the protection of countries identitys and heritage, as long as it doesnt use violence as a tool or insight racial prejudice.

You cant tag the whole of Iran with the nuke thing, its a teribble failure in a human being to casually throw the words 'nuclear weapon' into polite conversation as if its a posotive solution to any problem.

Stick to the ATS Logo, Deny ignorrance.

Regards.



posted on Apr, 21 2006 @ 10:37 AM
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so Im all about war when it comes to exterminating people that have counter productive beliefs.


Please don't come back from Germany...

Also, what track record does Bush have when it comes to assuming a country has WMD's? Enough said! AAC



posted on Apr, 21 2006 @ 10:40 AM
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Nephyx, I just wanted to make sure you understand that it was Nietzsche's ideas which were twisted to justify Hitlers little trist a few years back. Food for thought?

Has it become obvious yet that no one here with even a smidgen of common sense is going to co-sign to anything you have said? You bray about Islam having no place in the 21st century because of its archaic ideals and violent followers, yet you don't even bat an eye at the idea of murdering MILLIONS of innocent civilians, collapsing an already ailing economy, and urging our former allies, along with most of the modern world, to finally "put their foot down?"

Do us a favor...Slow down. Formulate a concise, cognitive opinion, free from all these silly contradictions and grade-school temper-tantrums. Then, come back and we can fling mud all day long. Its just too damn hard to argue with people who don't even have a firm grasp on reality.



posted on Apr, 21 2006 @ 10:42 AM
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Originally posted by passengername
Kill them first because they want to kill me.


Yep! It's called survival of the fittest. It's like when you go up against a bully who's been threatening you for months. Knock him down hard, hit him so hard he can't get back up and push you around again. Teach him a lesson and he'll never bother you again. Make sure you throw the first punch...didn't any of your guys Dad's teach you anything about fighting or did you all get your ass's kicked throughout life because of your passive/tolerant stance on accepting abuse?

Amazing how you liberal bleeding heart do-gooders are the first to cry when your idealogies have backfired and the bad guys foot is inserted way up your arse. "Help. Help. Why isn't my government helping me?"

The best defense is a good offense and it's obvious that Iran's Mr. Ahmadinejad has no ability to reason, "Israel should be wiped off the map." And the majority of you guys are taking up for him. Give this guy time to enrich his uranium and you will see nukes go off, without a doubt. This guy is the new Hitler, not Bush (who incidently I don't like either, but he is the lesser of the 2 evils here).

PS - I'm not advocating nukes here. Don't want that. But something needs to be done before they are given the chance to go through with their threats and aniihilate the U.S. when we least expect it.

[edit on 21-4-2006 by zerotolerance]

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posted on Apr, 21 2006 @ 10:46 AM
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Originally posted by nephyx
Atleast a few people agree with me.. I hate to seem evil i just dont have tmie to watch people arguing this or that.. My reality tells me that these people dont contribute anything intellectual on a global level.


Your reality is simply drawn from your own, uneducated view of the world. Distorted.


Originally posted by nephyx
The only thing these countries contribute is oil and considering how anti evolutionary these people are, i doubt they deserve having it. I think that the world needs to evolve and keeping people like this around isnt going to help.


Oh how you must wished to have been at the Nuremberg Rally.



Originally posted by nephyx
Dont get so mad at me I cant help the fact that I want to spread socialism on a global level to people who are intellectually prepared for it.


You are not talking Socialism. You're talking National Socialism.


Originally posted by nephyx
Why did we slaughter the Indians? Because they were living in Tee Pee's wasting time and money.


Wasting time on their land, how do you define wasting time? Appreciating nature, wasting time by resisting the colonisation of their land, the raping of the women, the killing of their children? Wasting money because they believed a dollar is not edible, and will not save you when the last rive has been drained, the last tree felled, the last animal wiped out?


Originally posted by nephyx
Although its tragic, I believe that this is part of natural selection.


Wrong. It's Genocide of people whose way of life you detest and think you are superior too.

Keep shining your jackboots.



Originally posted by nephyx
When it comes to silent fears I worry about a future where people havent freed themselves from the bondage of slave mentality known as RELIGION. Friedriche Nietzche (My God) would probably agree with me that religion is about as anti evolutionary as it get


Nietzche, your God? Hypocrite.


Originally posted by nephyx
Sooner or later one of us is gonna have to go, Since we can make Iran go away now, I figure why wait till later when its not as easy


None of us has to go anywhere, although you're seething hatred of Iranians and muslims suggests you've gone somewhere in your closed mind which is unreachable to us all here with the brightest candle.

May you succeed in getting help.




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posted on Apr, 21 2006 @ 10:50 AM
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you've gone somewhere in your closed mind which is unreachable to us all here with the brightest candle.


Bravo Chap!......what an excellent saying.



posted on Apr, 21 2006 @ 10:52 AM
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Originally posted by zerotolerance

Originally posted by passengername
Kill them first because they want to kill me.


Make sure you throw the first punch...didn't any of your guys Dad's teach you anything about fighting or did you all get your ass's kicked throughout life because of your passive/tolerant stance on accepting abuse?

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sounds like your dad taught you how to be the bully. I'm not saying don't defend yourself but how exactly is iran being a bully? what abuse are we accepting? They aren't at war with any countries. Sure their president talks a big game but he doesn't do anything. My folks told me just to stay clear of people with big mouths, they're more trouble than their worth.

BTW, I can honestly say i've never thrown the first punch and I've never gotten my ass kicked.



posted on Apr, 21 2006 @ 10:56 AM
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You said that Mister Nietzsche is your God or something, right?


Friedrich Nietzsche Quotes



"In Christianity neither morality nor religion come into contact with reality at any point."

"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. Is not life a hundred times too short for us to bore ourselves?"

"The word "Christianity" is already a misunderstanding - in reality there has been only one Christian, and he died on the Cross."

"Two great European narcotics, alcohol and Christianity."



posted on Apr, 21 2006 @ 10:57 AM
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Seriously people it will be a decade or longer befor Iran could even build a Nuke with a decent yeild. Iran never threatened the United states they threatened Israel cause they are pissed off that their people in Palestine are being forced from their homeland just because we say so.

Besides how Israel gets to have the bomb? They certainly do not play by the rules either yet know on says # to them.

I can sympothize with the muslims in the middle east they are being culturally cleansed and told to live like we do. They clearly want to be left alone so we should they do not pose a threat to anyone but Israel so let Israel take of the problem we created in the first place which was stealing land from palestine and giving the the Israelis. No one in that region wants them there the US just wants to protect it's investments and destroy anyone who does not play by "their" rules.



posted on Apr, 21 2006 @ 10:58 AM
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Originally posted by optimus fett



you've gone somewhere in your closed mind which is unreachable to us all here with the brightest candle.


Bravo Chap!......what an excellent saying.


Thankyou.



posted on Apr, 21 2006 @ 10:59 AM
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Originally posted by zerotolerance
It's called survival of the fittest. It's like when you go up against a bully who's been threatening you for months. Knock him down hard, hit him so hard he can't get back up and push you around again. Teach him a lesson and he'll never bother you again. Make sure you throw the first punch...didn't any of your guys Dad's teach you anything about fighting or did you all get your ass's kicked throughout life because of your passive/tolerant stance on accepting abuse?


No, its not. This is not a big-weiner contest on the playground. Thats a terrible analogy. How about- the bully threatens you, so you beat up the whole block? Thats more like it, huh?

Take me for example. I would gladly knock every tooth out of your head because I imagine you would think twice about spouting hateful rhetoric after someone showed you the foolishness of your thinking. This is more like your bully situation. I wouldnt beat up your whole family...just you. But thats just my "passive/tolerant stance on accepting abuse."

Blowing up an entire group of people because of the WORDS of their crazy leadership is sick. You cannot sugar coat it with your little analogies...especially when they don't even make sense.



posted on Apr, 21 2006 @ 11:02 AM
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Originally posted by nephyx
youre the knuckle dragger.. so your telling me that we dont have an overpopulation problem that needs to be fixed? ALL im saying if anyone has to go it should be muslims with their un diplomatic ways! Are you people so consumed with trying to come across as moralistic that you forgot about the decisions that need to be made for the greater good? Sure i dont want innocent people to die in Iran but in my opinion Iran is filled with Guilty fools who spread the word of Religious retardation..

you attack me because you think that I just want to bomb and move on but in reality if Iran had nukes we would be the one getting bombed and for what? Spreading knowlege and truth? I mean lets focus on this next question... If you are all so much against ignorance why do you support religious movements such as the nation of Islam?

I am providing a quick fix to our planets problems! Of course my views come across as radical but its not something you havent thought of before.


Look pal, if you really wanna fix the "overpopulation problem" through death (in that case mass genocide), then I say YOU GO FIRST! GO ahead... show the good example to the rest of mankind!

At the end of the day it's all a question of pointing the finger at the "others"... because, you know, the others are BAD and we (or I, to some extent) are GOOD.

And what's your self-defense "logic", here... to attack first for the fear of being attacked first??? Does that mean America will have to annihilate ever single country, group or person that can be showned as a potential threat by the government to be in peaceful and intelligent world? No... because this world is gonna be a wasteland devoid of any life.

If you were anything between honest or intelligent, you would realize that IF a country HAS to be destroyed for the sake of world peace or the environment, then it must be the American government and the corporations that it's defending, as it's been a hundred times more destructive, both for mankind and the environment, than any Muslim country for the past 100 years.

And no, an entire population cannot be held as non-innocent, just because they have religious views that do not fit with yours... to only believe in that is to be just as intolerant as all these muslim integrists who torture and kill people for the very same reasons.

I would have believed that you are just a troll trying to use controversy to gain some ATS points, but since you're going as far as defending your war-mongering, racist, hateful and downright irrational first post, it seems like you're worse than that.

I suggest you go take a walk outside and try to enjoy Life, while it's still there...

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posted on Apr, 21 2006 @ 11:03 AM
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Originally posted by passengername
sounds like your dad taught you how to be the bully. I'm not saying don't defend yourself but how exactly is iran being a bully? what abuse are we accepting? They aren't at war with any countries. Sure their president talks a big game but he doesn't do anything. My folks told me just to stay clear of people with big mouths, they're more trouble than their worth.

BTW, I can honestly say i've never thrown the first punch and I've never gotten my ass kicked.


No, my Dad taught me how to avoid getting my ass kicked. And it always worked. If someone's pushing you around, bullying you, picking on you, making idle threats for your safety....you take them down before they get the chance. nail them so hard they think a car hit them. And keep nailing them til they can't fight back anymore. And you know what? It puts them in their place and shuts them up once and for all. had it happen a couple times growing up and what's weird is that after the battle they always want to a.) ignore you and leave you alone for good, for fear of another ass-whooping or b.) they become friends with you.

As far as Iran's leaders threats, well, hey "Israel needs to be wiped off the map". That's a very serious statement. And he has made subtle threats to the U.S.

So, we sit tight and we wait for his first nuclear bomb threat.....give it time and you'll hear about it. He's still enriching uranium....but I think he's lying about it being only for energy usage, especially after making his statement about Israel. I think it's painfully obvious what his plans are....

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posted on Apr, 21 2006 @ 11:07 AM
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Originally posted by The_Doctor
I can sympothize with the muslims in the middle east they are being culturally cleansed and told to live like we do. They clearly want to be left alone so we should they do not pose a threat to anyone but Israel so let Israel take of the problem we created in the first place which was stealing land from palestine and giving the the Israelis. No one in that region wants them there the US just wants to protect it's investments and destroy anyone who does not play by "their" rules.


Ya, I'd have to agree here (even though I hate bullies pushing people around). maybe over there they think Bush is a bully. It's all relative to where you were born. We should leave them alone. let them live in dirty squalor, in their "stuck in ancient civilization" mindset. I could care less how they live as long as they leave us alone. And Bush needs to drop his oil plans and get us out. Greedy bastard. We wouldn't be dealing with all this crap if it wasn't for him.



posted on Apr, 21 2006 @ 11:09 AM
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Originally posted by optimus fett



you've gone somewhere in your closed mind which is unreachable to us all here with the brightest candle.


Bravo Chap!......what an excellent saying.


Yeah youre good with your words but the second you can defend religion as a reasonable source for planetary growth then you got me on your side.
Whether or not Iran has done nothing yet isnt the question, its the fact that they WANT to do something which makes them less innocent then all of you presume. I think that the whole point is to punk them in the back of the head before it becomes a possible threat and if they continue their mascarade then we punk them even harder into submission as my friend above mentioned its called 'survival of the fittest' and when your life is being threatened by religious fundemantal morons who have no idea what evolution is youll be wishing you followed my advice



posted on Apr, 21 2006 @ 11:10 AM
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Originally posted by zerotolerance
It's like when you go up against a bully who's been threatening you for months. Knock him down hard, hit him so hard he can't get back up and push you around again.

Well, if you have observed past 50 years, what did you learn?

Who is the Biggest Bully in the World?

Iran?

North Korea?

Syria?

Venezuela?

Congo?

Afganistan?

Liberia?

Vietnam?

Cambodia?

Panama?

Hmmmmmmm....

If I take a look at things a little more, I see only ONE Bully, Terrorizing the entire Planet into His Terms and His Political Systems and His "Pro-Business" Goverments.

Have you already Guess who is it?

Ever wondered if that same Tactic you mentioned (Knock him down hard, hit him so hard he can't get back up and push you around again) may probably apply to this World #1 Bully to?



posted on Apr, 21 2006 @ 11:11 AM
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Originally posted by DaFunk13
Blowing up an entire group of people because of the WORDS of their crazy leadership is sick. You cannot sugar coat it with your little analogies...especially when they don't even make sense.


So you honestly actually believe reasoning will work with this idiot? He's beyond that....
As an American would you be willing for us to fly you over there so you can sit and straighten this out? Cause obviously you have this all figured out.



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