Iran dug their own hole, NUKE THEM

I have to say, this thread is a good way to get to know people!

Maybe some of you would go to Washington and do the honors of PRESSING THE BUTTON?

That would be very Patriotic of you.

Do it.
Do it.
Do it.

I also hear they're looking for people who will dispense lethal injections on death row.
You have a choice of professions. Go for it!

Turning Iran into a "glass parking lot" or a giant hole is not the solution. Aside from the loss of innocent lives and historical antiquities, what about the radiation? Do you think that all of that nuclear radiation is going to stay hovering over Iran and not affect the rest of the world?

Atleast a few people agree with me.. I hate to seem evil i just dont have tmie to watch people arguing this or that.. My reality tells me that these people dont contribute anything intellectual on a global level.

The only thing these countries contribute is oil and considering how anti evolutionary these people are, i doubt they deserve having it. I think that the world needs to evolve and keeping people like this around isnt going to help.

Dont get so mad at me I cant help the fact that I want to spread socialism on a global level to people who are intellectually prepared for it. Im not in love with the United States government but I will stand firm on my views that Fundamental Muslims have no place in the 21st century..

Why did we slaughter the Indians? Because they were living in Tee Pee's wasting time and money. Although its tragic, I believe that this is part of natural selection. Sooner or later one of us is gonna have to go, Since we can make Iran go away now, I figure why wait till later when its not as easy

Well another uneducated radical narrow minded addition to my ignore list....... thats right the author and the above not the Iranians.... carefull what you believe guys remember your educated nuke em type administration is convinced fossils where put there to test their faith.... there not real... yep and of course bush believes in the Rapture.... makes me feel like stating Nuke washington.... however I realise that real innocent human beings, children and women live there as well as the "radicals" maybe not... lets use the power of the pen and education...

talking about education duke nuke em do a google or visit your local library and research the Persian empire....

MischeviouslyStunnedThatSeeminglyLiterateAndeducatedPeopleAreSoNaive

Elf


PS WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WHEN IN RESPONSE TO THE NUCLEAR ATTACK YOU PROPOSE YOUR ECONOMY COLLAPSES AND YOU HAVE NO FUEL FOR THE FIRE AND POLICE AND AMBULANCES...BLAME SYRIA AND NUKE EM? tsk unedcated ignorance IMHO no offense intended.

[edit on 21-4-2006 by MischeviousElf]

Originally posted by nephyx
Are you people so consumed with trying to come across as moralistic that you forgot about the decisions that need to be made for the greater good?

Who's greater good? Please, for the greater good step up with a personal solution to the population problem and off yourself.

Originally posted by nephyx
in reality if Iran had nukes we would be the one getting bombed and for what?

See that bolded IF - that is a pretty important aspect of this whole thing. IF aggressors did not terrorise the world then there would not even be a discussion about repurcussions. Cause and Effect. However, the aggression of the U.S. is not an IF at all, no conjecture about it.

Originally posted by nephyx
Spreading knowlege and truth? I mean lets focus on this next question... If you are all so much against ignorance why do you support religious movements such as the nation of Islam?

Who is supporting radical islam by NOT advocating the vaporization of millions of Iranians of whom the majority are not radical or motivated by anything other than living as good a life as they can within their own borders? The ignorant stance being taken is by yourself - ignorant of the actual views and lifes of the citizenry of a country you have never visited full of people you have never tried to comprehend.

Originally posted by nephyx
I am providing a quick fix to our planets problems! Of course my views come across as radical but its not something you havent thought of before.

You sum my views up pretty well with that statement - I am providing a quick fix to our planets problems - go take a shoelace and dangle from it.

Originally posted by nephyx
Therefore. my solution is as follows.. Destroy the nation of Islam and save Mother earth!

What is the "Nation of Islam"?

Where is it Located?

Are you aware that Islam is a Religion not a Nation?

Anyway, people like you give me the Creeps.

One thing you should know,

Never wish something upon others, if you do not wish that same thing happening to You!

And when the times comes (and I hope it NEVER will!), are you willing to "Ride it Out" like a Good Cowboy that you are?



[edit on 21/4/06 by Souljah]

I know where it is. Dont you?

I'd tell you but its not worth getting banned over.

I find it very hypocritical when the only solution that intelligent people can see to resolve difficulties in Iran is to resort to the nuclear option.

Here "we" are. We listen to stormy retoric from Iran -- sabre rattling, if you will. The Iranians seem to be saying that they will destroy our way of life and it frightens us. How do we respond?

NUKE 'EM


We are not asking why would Iran want to demonstrate their fledgling military capability. We are not asking why Iran would want to demonstrate military strength in a region that has been a cauldron of instability and turmoil. We are not asking why Iran would want to be reactionary and even "baiting".

But of course, we are not asking the right questions. We are also not asking ourselves whether our nation might have done things differently. Are we asking whether the U.S. might have been heavy handed and provacative in our dealings with the region? Are we asking ourselves whether our nation might have been a bit too demonstrative with our own military strength? Are we asking ourselves whether we have addressed the issues of poverty, hunger, education in the region?

Maybe WE have been the provocateurs in the region? After all, look at the solution that has been bandied about here. I'd be frightened too. If I were Iran, I'd want nuclear weapons too. Just read the various threads and posts on ATS and you will see an attitude that would frighten any nation, anyone.

"Bomb them before they bomb us", Make Iran a parking lot", "Kill them all and let God/Allah sort 'em out"......These are statements that I've seen around ATS (paraphrased, of course but you can find them if you look.....these are attitudes that have been expressed and you don't have to go far to find them).

Where are the solutions that go....."wow, we should sit down and talk to these people and see if we can find a solution, a middle ground, a comprimise". No, we see..."Nuke 'em". We see trying to frighten them. Of course, in reply we see much of the same sabre rattling but "we" consider ourselves the socially evolved ones. After all, "we" are the technilogically and morally advanced "west".

The problem with some of you is that you automatically assume violence is wrong. This is simply a difference of opinion which you cant seem to grasp because youre caught up in your moralistic ways. Maybe the real issue here is that youre all so tied down with your own religious quests that you refuse to accept whats best for mankind.

Did you forget the millions of Muslims who celebrated when the towers collapsed? Forget who did it, lets look at who loved watching it (MUSLIMS). So when you tell me that they didnt do anything to us I believe you are mistaken. Also, I can garuntee that there are millions of Muslims right now who are trying to figure out a way to destroy the united states and impose a new government influenced by islam (This is their dream and my nightmare)

In a perfect world religion would be outlawed.. lets start chipping away and make some changes.

Oh and about the nuclear fallout... We dont necessarily have to use nukes.. just whatever gets the job done and their mouths shut. The second muslims stop blowing themselves up and killing innocent israelis then maybe ill have mercy for them, but at this point I think that they have it coming.. SORRY TO DISSAPOINT ALL YOU ANTI-PATRIOTS but just because I have beef with the middle east doesnt make me an ignorant Midwesterner. Im actually a very well accomplished business man fluent in 3 languages and I have a graduate degree in International Law.

There are intelligent people out there who are willing to cut their losses for a greater earth I think you need to accept the fact that liberal hippies who believe in UFOS arent the only smart people in this world.

[edit on 21-4-2006 by nephyx]

Americans who advocate such violence are the epitome of every silent fear of the 'rest of the world.' Have you considered the consequences of the actions you're suggesting?

Europe, even eastern Europe, will alienate the US if nukes are used; the friendly North African nations will once again start to scorn American murder of their innocent Muslim brothers and sisters. Chavez and Castro will gain massive dialective and rhetorical power to continue the conversion of the American hemisphere. Inside the US, the 50 percent that didn't vote for Bush, or better yet, the 83 percent who want him impeached might finally have the force they need for their revolution.

Culturally, such a bombing in the 21st century will seal America's doom as "the Empire". Generations of people around the globe would turn, much more quickly, to China or perhaps India as the dominant international cultural leader.

How is our species going to survive another 2000 years of dynamic civilization with all the USA's WMDs and xenophobic, bigoted, hatred? A dangerous combination, for sure.

Ah, nationalism, when will you cease to kill off the poor and middle classes with your wars between elites?

Originally posted by nephyx


Im actually a very well accomplished business man fluent in 3 languages and I have a graduate degree in International Law.

There are intelligent people out there who are willing to cut their losses for a greater earth..

You'd have to show me proof.

I know 3 languages- SO? I have a degree in Paralegal- So? This is the first time i ever posted this.

Does that make me better and more qualified than the rest? NO.

I'll have you know, the average teenager here and the average housewife has much more common sense and regard for life than others do.

Anyway, you will rake points with your hatemongering.

Nice job.

a degree as you state successfull in business as well.

you surely MUST admit that you are wrong as what you propose nukes or no nukes would collapse the world economy...creating more poverty,pollution startvation and unstability globally, therefore not a thing to do for the better good. It would kill millions and create many many seeds for more wars and conflict in the future. Do you in your education actually know anything about the Shah ?

Research using some of your alumini sources for the great depression for a truly "small" idea of how your country would be in a year after such action.... not to mention the rest of the world.

Hey I could be wrong maybe you work in the military industrial complex then it may be good for you.

I dont follow any religeous agenda, just history, common sense and a touch of reality.

Elf

[edit on 21-4-2006 by MischeviousElf]

Originally posted by nephyx
The problem with some of you is that you automatically assume violence is wrong. This is just difference of opinion which you cant seem to grasp. Maybe the real issue here is that youre all so tied down with your own religious quests that you refuse to accept whats best for mankind.

And what does VIOLENCE Solve, mister accomplished business?

Every heard of the proverb, Violence Begets More Violence?

I guess they did not Teach you that at the Business school did they?

And what IS best for mankind?

A world without Islam?

Come on, stop hiding - just say it!

Oh and about the nuclear fallout... We dont necessarily have to use nukes.. just whatever gets the job done and their mouths shut. The second muslims stop blowing themselves up and killing innocent israelis then maybe ill have mercy for them, but at this point I think that they have it coming.. SORRY TO DISSAPOINT ALL YOU ANTI-PATRIOTS but just because I have beef with the middle east doesnt make me an ignorant Midwesterner. Im actually a very well accomplished business man fluent in 3 languages and I have a graduate degree in International Law.

Well I have Beef with every person of every nation and every religion that thinks, that Nuking a Country will Solve something. If you think so, they are so Mistaken. If you think dropping a nuke on Iran will solve ANYTHING you are even more mistaken. Frankly, you have showed nothing but complete and utter ignorance and hatred towards a RELIGION (not a country), and selectively not mentioning, how innocent people get killed by Western bombs and rockets too. Oh, I forgot - that is called "Collateral Damage" or "an Error" or "Bad Intel".

And if you have a degree in International Law then I am president of China.



[edit on 21/4/06 by Souljah]

Your on the wrong side of the fence in terms of judging. If any country deserves to be nuked first, its our own. Since the moment we set foot onthis country, we literally raped and pillaged the land from its inhabitants, spreading extremistist religious views throughout theyre people, and if they dont abide, slaughting them with pure genocide. The follow 200 years we attacked Mexico, stealing its land, we tried to assassinate political leaders, we funded terrorists and supplied them with weaponry, we invaded countries, using chemical weaponry thats BANNED in most of the world, and we practically scorched the earth behind us.

There is a nation of Terror, and hate to break it to ya, we are it.

Judge your worthiness to live, before you condemn others.

You gotta deny your own bigotry and ignorance, if you want the world to improve. Thats a concept, I'd hate to say, you have yet to begun to grasp.

it's funny how some people advocate using nuclear weapons on a nation that may be TRYING to develope nuclear weapons. Remember we are the only country that has used atomic weapons. The rest of the world has stood by the past two times we did it. why not test them a third time. 3rd times the charm!

My goal is not to stir things up, im just fed up with religion as a whole! If religious leaders from around the world whiped eachother out around the world that wouldnt bother me so much either! All im saying is lets get the ball rolling with Iran and then hopefully other religions will fall with it.

Meanwhile ill be standing on the sidelines with an agnostic stance on god eating popcorn while the world filters itself out.

Im sure there are other things we could all agree on I just wanted to get this off my chest. ALSO, I would not support a random nuke by any means.. I would assume that a fair warning would be given in advance for those who need time to flee.

Dont be so naive to think that countries like Iran arent planning our demise.. Everything they say in the news is a backhanded insult or threat against the wellbeing of freedom.

When it comes to silent fears I worry about a future where people havent freed themselves from the bondage of slave mentality known as RELIGION. Friedriche Nietzche (My God) would probably agree with me that religion is about as anti evolutionary as it gets. Its not like we can just convince people to stop having beliefs and replace them with ideas.. I think its one of those things that would require a fair deal of force..

China did away with religion and they are doing pretty damn well.. but then again some of you consider this evil. I Consider it a necessary evil for the betterment of mankind.

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Like I said, if you want to "Liberate" a country from religion, and its bound grip, You gotta nuke the US first.

80% of the country is devoutly Christian.

Its current president believes he is being guided by God.

Extremists like Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson have more pull in the countries views then anyone else.



[edit on 4/21/2006 by 12m8keall2c]

Originally posted by WolfofWar

There is a nation of Terror, and hate to break it to ya, we are it.

Judge your worthiness to live, before you condemn others.

You gotta deny your own bigotry and ignorance, if you want the world to improve. Thats a concept, I'd hate to say, you have yet to begun to grasp.

Okay, so people who believe in god and kill in the name of god even though they dont have any evidence of his existence are the smart ones and Im the ignorant one? Yeaaahh okay nice try. Try grasping reality yourself, religion is a blanket of lies that blinds millions of people on a daily basis - More than the news and more than the United States government. I think my argument is pretty sound considering that most philosophers would agree that religion is the poison of common man.

Just because this website is radically left doesnt mean you cant consider other points of view. I have some issues Im liberal about and some im conservative about but when it comes to Religion, I think it is the epitomy of ignorance in which so many of you are trying to deny. I mean theres just no scientific evidence for its basis and your trying to tell me that im ignorant because i want to see it gone? Excuse me while i laugh.



[edit on 21-4-2006 by nephyx]

Originally posted by nephyx

Okay, so people who believe in god and kill in the name of god even though they dont have any evidence of his existence are the smart ones and Im the ignorant one? Yeaaahh okay nice try. Try grasping reality yourself, religion is a blanket of lives that blinds millions of people on a daily basis - More than the news and more than the United States government. I think my argument is pretty sound considering that most philosophers would agree that religion is the poison of common man.

And you don't think WE are killing in the name of god? wake up.

“I BELIEVE that God wants me to be president.”

"I trust God speaks through me. Without that, I couldn’t do my job."

what is the difference:

kill them all 'cause they don't believe.

kill them all 'cause they do believe.

both statements come from a killer's mouth. how bout this one:

Kill themfirst because they want to kill me.

murder, murder, murder
kill, kill, kill

I'm glad we have people like nephyx that are looking out for the good of all mankind!