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Originally posted by 25cents
sorry, if i have to choose between mincing fairies smoking dope and neanderthals pummeling one anothers heads in, i'm much more amused by the pummeling.
Originally posted by 25cents
well, in fact, my answer is no. i would very much dislike that.
doesn't mean that i'm going to sympathize with people halfway around the world who allow maniacs to get into power. my feelings are that it's a shame that so many people are caught up in the situation, and that if we DID nuke them so many truly innocent people would die...
but hell, better them than me and mine.
Originally posted by TONE23
how appropriate you would say this.. because we have the same lunacy running our country aswell.. or did you forget about the two wars we started.. and the 100's of thousands of Iraqis that have died?
Thats my point .. the hypocracy of this is staggering... and you want the whole country to be nuked for the trangressions of the leadership... that isnt even elected? Time to rethink your strategy me thinks.
Originally posted by 25cents
ha! i'm not the enemy i despise.
the enemy is simply whoever wishes harm upon my kinsmen - even if my countrymen are certifiably retarded, they're a part of my community. if by wishing to harm my enemy before they harm me makes me as bad as them...so be it.
Originally posted by TONE23
i guess my underlying point is.. an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.
I am not trying to upset you.. and I have no problem with defending oneself.
Just make sure it is properly directed.. thats all.
And maybe..just maybe..many from the other side of the spectrum feel just as threatened by the US as we do by them..does that make any sense?
Like I said.. If Iran's leadership wants to rattle sabers with the US then they are going to pay the price... I just think its more than a bit over board to whipe out an entire peoples for it. Indiscriminate killing of millions of men women and children.. does make you your enemy.. I am sorry but thats what it is.
Lets compare
terrorists dont care who they kill... in this scenario neither do you
terrorists would take as many as they can in one fell swoop- again your ideology is the same
terroists dont care if you are part of the conflict or not-same goes for you in this case
yes, nuking an enitre nation WILL make you what you hate. a terrorist....and cent, I know you are no terrorist..
Like I said direct it where it belongs.. at the leadership... now if you want to evacuate the citizenry that doesnt want to have anything to do with war and violence.. and all that were left were warmongerers who wish for war and death.. then by all means drop away.
Im trying to meet you in the middle here. But please abandon the idea of wanton indiscriminate murder.
original quote by: 25cents
i only support this idea assuming that these people actually go to war with us.
better 68 million of them than 1 person who is on my 'team'.
original quote by: 25cents
it's a god damned shame we can't simply round up the buggers responsible and execute them all, but if they're going to show no respect for the lives of their own countrymen, then it is not our duty to do so.
original quote by: 25cents
again, we differ here. there is absolutely no room for moral high ground when it comes to war - the only thing i truly despise is the use of chemical warfare and the wholesale slaughter of (specifically) children, as occurs in africa. we do neither of things, although children do die - we do not target them. it is extremely sad whenever it happens, and i DO feel bad about that.
original quote by: 25cents
the thing is that not just 1 of our innocent countrymen will die. had we just chalked up 9/11 to experience and decided to stick to ourselves, thousands more would have died in more attacks.
original quote by: 25cents
the fact of the matter is that since we started backing israel, every country in the middle east has wanted our ass. while i don't think it was our place to reinstate israel, as it is a 100% religious thing (can't think of the word, i just woke up), we're there and the nest has been stirred.
Originally posted by nephyx
We could use a few wars to help with the overpopulation problem. I mean do you realise that in the next 9 years we will have an estimated 8 billion people? If we dont do something to thin out the numbers now then there will be alot more problems in the future
Originally posted by 25cents
and before you get smarmy with your 'how would you like it' crap, no. we're talking about harming others, not the people i care about. i do not have a sense of empathy with every single human being on this planet, and it is not my dudty to save the world. let them die, and me and mine thrive. it's basic human instinct. get used to it.