Originally posted by Russian
Originally posted by Saphronia
Arabs and Jews lived side by side until Israel was given statehood. This is a political problem, not the blood feud some you claim it to be, and it
can only have a political solution. Israel's defense would be better served by the pen. This is in the best interest of that whole region. To
support anything else is to support the continuation of the conflict. The right to defend yourself is not exclusive to reactionary violence. The
best self-defense for Israel is a thriving democratic Palestine. Peace should be the goal and it's obvious it won't be attained by killing innocent
jews and arabs live in peace cause the jews didnt fight for freedom. arabs ruled jews until jews got a country and then they united and stood for
now im sure you're jewish(and to think you call urself russian
sheeh!!)....too biased to reason with.
however, im not stooping to your level
i would like to argue the term collateral damage, you're comparing the number of israelis dead with the palestinian casualites??????
rubber bullets and tear gas....you my friend are hitler's opposer, too sick to understand the actual facts behind the lines...you're willingto use
aresenal against people throwing rocks and rubble?
u make me sick.
I find your comment about fighting for the "wrong people" to be disgusting. I feel the same way about the US govornment supporting the Nazi wannabe
Israelis. Of course the Palestinians want to recruit people for thier cause and to protest. Obviously, when palestinans try and protest the Israelis,
they get kileled, the world doesnt care. When westerners get killed, more eyebrows are gonna get raised.
OK, on to Zionism. There already were Jews in israel before the Zionists got there. Now, for thousands of Years, those Jews had NO problems with the
Arabs. They all lived in the same area with no fighting. Thus, they were doing quite well.........the Arabs and Jews tolerating each others
And suddenly, the Zionists come around. Hmmmmmm....shyte hits the fan, violence starts up................ OH MY! Thousands of Years of Jewish and Arab
co existance without violnce suddenly out the window.
Its because Zionists are fanatic, dogmatic, and do not care who gets in thier way. They will use entire nations (like the US) to further thier cause,
they do not care what the body count is.
And before you go on about the UN, remeber Israel is in violation of hundreds of UN sanctions against it. Yet we invaded Iraq for Violating a handful.
The Palestinians have terror as thier only weapon. They have no army. When are you people gonna wake the frock up and see this? Of course they resort
to terror bombings! What other weapon do they have? Rocks? Sticks? Mud? Israel has a super pwoerful technicologically advanced army, Palestinians have
some goat herders and pissed off young people who pick up a copy of the anarchists cook book.
Ill put it to you this way. Lets say China decided America is a good place for a new chinese homeland. They come stomping on our shores, take over,
ect. Then they take Americans and push us out of the country, round us up, send us to camps in canada and Mexico. We have no army left, were just a
bunch of rednecks and hillbillies. Our conditions are deplorable. We are denied freedom of movement. We have no country of our own. The rest of the
world doesnt give a shyte, they think were a bunch of stupid #ers, and the Chinese have every right to be there as they see fit.
The Chinese roll periodically into our camps to burn down houses and schools with our women and kids. They shoot at us for throwing rocks at thier
tanks. Because were a;l terrorists. because a few poor and desperate and angry Americans decide that they will fight back via bombs and explosives.
What would you do?
I for one, would be making regular trips into Chinese occupied Seattle and making sure that If I cant sleep and live in peace, niether will they. I
would do exactly what the Palestinians are doing. Why? Because I have no nation, I have no army to join, no guerilla group. I do not have the
technology to defeat thier technilogical superiority. So, I shall use simple and brutal methods.
I shall bring to them the terror and pain they have brought to me.
And for your information, while you may see the Palestinians as terrorists, I see me as freedom fighters. Theres your dilema. One mans freedom fighter
is another mans terrorist. Its all in perspective. If the Palestinians had anythign even closely capable of battling Israel, it might be alot fairer.
But since they have NOTHING.....
They use what they have. Until Israel changes its wicked ways and pulls its head out of its Nazi buttcrack....they deserve no peace or security.
i pride myself in knowing this liberal....(skadi i mean)
ok enough of that.
hopefully her extract may switch you from your evil ways....but im sure you'll find some arguments