The end is in "2012"??????????, page 2

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Even though this is a long dead thread it is almost exactly what is being stated today. To me it shows that little has been learned in the last 8 years. That is really sad.

reply to post by CosmicCitizen

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Pole shifts have not happened in 200My. The last pole shift appears to be an event 800Ma and it took 15My to complete. Pole shifts are nothing to be concerned about.

Oct 2011 is a non-event. It is a Lungold/Calleman hoax. At least 2012 appears to be connected to the Mayan long count calendar.

Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by Centurionx

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Even though this is a long dead thread it is almost exactly what is being stated today. To me it shows that little has been learned in the last 8 years. That is really sad.

Aye tell me about it, actually there is more disinfo now than ever, nearly IMPOSSIBLE to find out the truth short of taking a trip down to central America and the Yucatan. And, see for yourself what the ancients had to say. Thanks to the good christian conquistadors, most of the Mayans history is gone. Not to mention the Maya themselves were destroyed as a people, they were murdered in pure treachery.

As far as Nibiru, Wormwood, Hercolubus, I first heard about it in 2006 and laughed it off entirely at first. Then, I decided to be objective and look for scientific facts as well as what our ancestors had to say about it. I found awesome, and very beautifully written ancient wisdom; and that's great, I dig God and all and believe our perceived notion of history is shrouded in mystery.

But Stereo... sadly I have found not ONE shred of scientific proof of a binary system or a 10th planet. I will admit, I SO WANT to believe we have a companion star(which is plausible) however very far away if so. And I WANT TO BELIEVE that in 1983 they had found Hercolubus and covered it up, but it could very well be just a young, distant, and not so bright galaxy. They mentioned a distant galaxy as being a possibility when the story initially broke. Going on 5 years now researching and all I've found is indirect scientific evidence(and a wealth of ancient manuscripts but that's no good here), it's so elusive that Occam's razor says it aint real lol.

reply to post by Centurionx

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A number of articles were published by the team looking at the IRAS data and they identified all of the objects. The problem with the original work was that there was no previous infrared scope to compare the data to. All of the readings were new. What was being discussed in the 1983 newspaper was a number of objects that were seen in the IRAS data, but no object appeared on optical plates in the same position. No such object had been detected before the IRAS data was a new type of data. All of the objects were eventually identified and journal articles report what the objects are.

reply to post by stereologist

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Yeah, that is reasonable explanation, besides when the New York times broke the "Mystery heavenly body discovered" A distant, dark, galaxy was one of the possibilities the NASA scientists were pondering when they said "All I can tell you is we don't know what it is"

I can see how conspiracy theorists would smell a cover up, but the fact he initially said a galaxy could be it, and it was new piece of hardware at the time like you said. It all adds up... It's just a damn galaxy bah

Needless to say this realization put a major roadblock in my quest to find celestial bodies near our solar system haha! I'm not giving up though, not until NASA, or even Russia, China, India come out with concrete proof that we have a single sun with 9 planets(because Pluto kicks ass!) I know it is silly, but I will remain on the fence. I can safely say C/2010X1 is not Hercolubus ROFL! We'd be having Earthquakes and Tsunamis, Superstorms all day everday!

eta: C/2010X1 HAS CROSSED MARS'S ORBIT WE'D WOULD SEE IT PLAIN AS DAY(if it was the infamous winged globe), just throwing that out there.

reply to post by Centurionx

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Most of the objects were galaxies. These galaxies were so enclosed in dust that only infrared got past the dust clouds. But on of the objects was called an interstellar cirrus cloud.

This is Phil PLait's discussion of the IRAS issue.
The Planet X Saga

I've read 2 of the journal articles about the mysterious objects. I'll see if I can locate them again.

Looks like Plait has one of the articles on his page.
Unidentified IRAS sources - Ultrahigh-luminosity galaxies

reply to post by stereologist

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Thanks for the links.

2nd

In fact, these observations heralded the discovery of a new type of object: Ultra-luminous Infrared Galaxies (ULIRGs).

Never knew that, awesome.

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