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reply posted on 18-4-2006 @ 10:01 AM by LazarusTheLong
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I think what is being revealed here (theory) is a continueing connection of the rich and powerful, politically connected individuals, to present or
former CIA operatives indulging in the profitable career of Drug Smuggling.
Or is it a operation done privately by rich and famous individuals, merely using contacts they get from political or government agency connections.
CIA and drug smuggling have been reported before, so is this so wierd? nope.
The question is how connected, and who else is a part of it? Being as these planes are running out of a suspected (with much evidence) CIA front, and
the look of the planes would leave non english speaking airport officials thinking these were diplomatic flights...
Surely a government investigation would have at least forced them to abandon there copycat look and feel of the aircraft, if they weren't
complicet.
the way they were caught is also suspicious... If not for the alert soldiers, they would have gotten away clean, even with all the suspicious actions
going on.
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reply posted on 18-4-2006 @ 10:20 AM by StarkMan
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Cover Up coming! Nothing on the news but the Duke thing.(They have only been accussed of rape, not found guilty by a jury of their peers, yet...)
Not on CNN, MSNBC, FOX, CBC, nothing. So, how does a politician get caught with more then 5 tons of coke and not have it reported? Are bloggers
picking this up?
Nothing on Yahoo news either...
Although as said the CIA ever since Reagonomics era, probably even earlier with Nixon, have been dealing drugs. You don't think there are thousand
acre fields of marijuanna plants, poppy plants, coca plants, just being missed by the police do you? No, they are smuggled from outside, but how does
a third world nation get it in?
Ring Ring, Ring Ring. "Hello?" "Hola! We have your coke ready Mr. Delay." "You're supposed to use my cover name!" "Oh sorry Mr. The
Hammer." "Its just The Hammer!" "Oh sorry senor, we will be delivering your coke in 2 days." "Oh yes, uh, if my phones are being wiretapped
he means my Coca Cola, I get it straight from the factory, heh heh."
Alright, first post on here! I was on MySpace but with all the bad press that thing gets I started looking around for other places to post on. Cool
site so far, love BTS! A lot more informative on games and movies then MySpace.
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reply posted on 18-4-2006 @ 10:34 AM by LoganCale
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The Tom Delay connection is perhaps a bit much, but the story stands on its own without that. Royal Sons, LLC is most likely a CIA front company. It
certainly has all the signs.
I found the part about the aircraft painting especially amusing. It's sort of a double camouflage. They paint the aircraft to look like a
government aircraft, but it's owned by a private company. However, that company is probably a front company for the government.
Anyway, excellent find that seems to clarify rather well a few more things in the drug / 9/11 conspiracy.
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reply posted on 18-4-2006 @ 10:36 AM by LazarusTheLong
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Just to clarify,
Delay appointed this guy (and was friends with him also) many years ago...
they do not have a present proven connection other than Royal Air being a suspected CIA front, as well as the owners being contributers to the
republican national commitee.
If connections are proven, all it really proves it that there is an element within the republican (and probably democrat) party, that will use any
connection/donation to further their interests... and possibly support illegal operations to accumulate money (for who knows what?)
We would have to look far down the rabbit hole to prove more than that...
But the whole CIA front connection to this Coke deal, and the AQ terrorists of 9-11 certainly stinks...
If the "terrorists" were being trained to fly by CIA front drug smuggling operations... then the web gets very tangled... where everyone in it is
either a spider, or a bug corpse...
I want to know more about this Royal Air
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reply posted on 18-4-2006 @ 11:03 AM by LoganCale
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The Huffman Aviation website ( www.huffmanaviation.com... ) is dead, it would seem.
Royal Sons, LLC has no results on Google.
And Skyway Aircraft results in this website which, while based in Florida, seems to just be aircraft sales. Their logo is not shown and they only
have on testimonial, which seems a bit odd. www.skywayaircraft.com...
That website is registered to:
Skyway Aircraft Sales
1 Beach Drive S.E.
Suite 101
St. Petersburg, Florida 33701
Google Maps says that is at
(URL too long, search Google maps for "1 Beach Dr SE, St Petersburg, FL 33701")
While it may be displaying the wrong place, it doesn't appear to show anything resembling a place selling aircraft. Could also be corporate offices
or something, but it doesn't seem like a big enough company. Also, it looks like there's a swimming pool on the roof. A hotel?
On the other hand, a Google Maps search for Skyway Aircraft Sales in the same area goes to
(URL too long, search Google Maps for "Skyway Aircraft Sales, St. Petersburg, Florida" and go to the first result)
At any rate, Huffman Aviation is in Venice, Florida, which is roughly 60 miles south of St. Petersburg.
I don't know if these things prove anything or if they are even the same Skyway Aircraft. Jut thought I'd post them anyway.
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reply posted on 18-4-2006 @ 11:39 AM by LazarusTheLong
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Things dont make sense... Kovar was fired a year ago
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reply posted on 18-4-2006 @ 12:01 PM by LazarusTheLong
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Holy bat droppings... some major connections
Coincidence in reality is often a cover for connection...
I submit for your flaming and perusal, the following connection.
the dubyareport- connections
External source: George Bush Sr. became Director of the CIA in 1976. The same year, according to a trust document, James Bath of Houston, TX, became
the U.S. representative for Salem bin Laden, brother of Osama bin Laden, accused of playing a central role in the September 11 terrorist attacks. Also
that year, according to William White, identified by MSNBC as "an associate of Bath's" and fellow "Annapolis graduate and Naval fighter pilot,"
Bath began working as the CIA liaison to Saudi Arabia. White also claimed Bath was part of a secret conspiracy to "funnel Saudi money into the
U.S."
then this little mention:
same source: At the time, Bath operated an aviation business named Skyway Aircraft Leasing, based in the Cayman Islands. Skyway was actually owned by
Khalid bin Mahfouz, a Saudi banker.
so skyway has evolved, but always has circled the drain of this administrations power players.
BTW, i was researching a link, that connected Skyways to the CIA but that particular link was dead thru MSNBC, and trying to look up the original
article (published in a kuwaiti paper) caused firefox to crash. spooooky....
check this search page out...
there is a connection somewhere...
yahoo search
Skyway, CIA
there are links that claim the CIA sold planes to Skyway, and even fuzzy connections with enron...
where does this web end? maybe this is the first glimpse we have had at the web... so of course, we are overwhelmed... and unbelieving.
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reply posted on 18-4-2006 @ 12:30 PM by LazarusTheLong
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sorry duplicate post
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reply posted on 18-4-2006 @ 12:31 PM by LazarusTheLong
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BTW skyways aircraft leasing (the company mentioned in the above posts) is a wholly owned subsidiary of Skyways communications.
so they are the same company.
here is an industry report regarding the purchase of a DC9 to be used for demonstation purposes for Skyways communications...
january 04...
wonder if it is the same plane that got busted... if so, it has the most expensive and most extensive onboard communications equipment...
seriously folks...
check some of my links...
this maybe a chink in the armor that allows us a very small peek inside the belly of the beast...
SkyWay Aircraft, a subsidiary of SkyWay Communications Holding Corp. purchased a DC-9-15 that will be outfitted with SkyWay in-flight communications,
aircraft-condition monitoring, security monitoring and entertainment systems for demonstration and evaluation purposes.
source:
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reply posted on 18-4-2006 @ 12:32 PM by dgtempe
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Way above for Lazarus!!!!!
Outstanding research. A tangled web that will most likely not become unraveled, or will it?
Lets see, if i had to bet money i would put all mine on Bush sr.& Jr. and the entire clan. Oh, and dont exclude crotchety Cheney. He's right up
their skirts.
   
Les Criminales
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reply posted on 18-4-2006 @ 02:45 PM by alphacenturi
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In the Article 'The Mena Crime' that Britguy posted regarding one 'Barry Seal', it makes mention of his ideas for grandiose companies with names
starting with 'Royale'.
Additionally, Seal's files suggest a grandiose scheme for building an empire. Papers in his office at the time of his death include references to
dozens of companiesQall of which had names that began with Royale. Among them: Royale Sports, Royale Television Network, Royale Liquors, Royale
Casino, S.A., Royale Pharmaceuticals, Royale Arabians, Royale Seafood, Royale Security, Royale Resorts ... and on and on.
I don't know if any of you guys made this connection, maybe you all did and I'm just a little dim today  Anyway, Lazarus added some links to the
Saudi Royals, funny how this word 'Royal' keeps insinuating itself here.
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reply posted on 18-4-2006 @ 02:54 PM by Britguy
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As if this didn't stink enough... the plane get's impounded after the drugs are found on the 12th April and the FAA site list it as being cancelled
from the US register on the 13th April, sold to an unnamed customer in Venezuela  Curious!
registry.faa.gov...
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reply posted on 18-4-2006 @ 02:58 PM by alphacenturi
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Just typed in 'Barry Seal' on Google and got this, looks like the same site with the article from the the first post.
www.madcowprod.com...
Sure makes for interesting reading while cooking dinner
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reply posted on 18-4-2006 @ 03:24 PM by LoganCale
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Originally posted by Britguy
As if this didn't stink enough... the plane get's impounded after the drugs are found on the 12th April and the FAA site list it as being cancelled
from the US register on the 13th April, sold to an unnamed customer in Venezuela  Curious!
registry.faa.gov...
Excellent find! And excellent research, LazarusTheLong!
There is now basically irrefutable proof that a US corporation with major ties to the government is smuggling drugs into the country on their
aircraft... yet the mainstream media isn't touching it. Maybe they haven't heard about it yet. Someone really should submit all the evidence to
the various networks.
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reply posted on 18-4-2006 @ 03:29 PM by psyopswatcher
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Something to ponder if that plane was 'lumbering'.
I've worked in the Caribbean fueling aircraft for the navy, and here is what I've seen. It's not uncommon to transfer confiscated contraband from
the original smuggler/carrier to govt (even leased/contracted) aircraft, then flown off to.... < insert parts unknown>
Once I was on a run where a rinketydink prop jobbie was stuffed full of white-wrapped bales being unloaded reveiling every manner of auxiliarly fuel
tank--plastic under the seats, in the nose, anywhere they could stick one and still have room for the cargo. You wondered how it got off the ground.
The pilot was duded out in scrambled eggs and gold stripe on his black suit and didn't speak a word of english. I, in my fuel truck, started yelling
for who was paying and another black suit hands me a Dept. of Treasury credit card. Good nuff for govt work.
We knew we were in a War on Drugs and they had escorted the smuggler to the nearest US base. The US Coast Guard were stationed there too, and I've
also seen the bullet holes in the belly of a Falcon jet. They painted marijuana leafs on the side numbering their busts.
That was in Gtmo about 15 years ago. Southern Air was a frequent visitor in C-130's.
This leased a/c could be another example of outsourcing?
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reply posted on 18-4-2006 @ 04:19 PM by psyopswatcher
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Originally posted by alphacenturi
Just typed in 'Barry Seal' on Google and got this, looks like the same site with the article from the the first post.
www.madcowprod.com...
Same author too. "... by Daniel Hopsicker"
Did anyone notice that Brent Kovac's name is spelled with an 'r' in the quoted press release (from
original source article)?
...buddy Brent Kovac's press release deserves special mention.
"Congressman Tom Delay, Majority Leader, has appointed Brent C Kovar to serve as the Honorary Chairman, Business Advisory Council,” read the
headline of an August 7, 2003 release from PrimeZone Media newswire and press release service.
The Business Advisory Council, explained the release, was part of the National Republican Congressional Committee, “dedicated to making sure that
small business has a voice in Washington.”
Kovar was appointed “in recognition of his valuable contributions and dedication to the Republican Party,” and was "expected to play a crucial
role in the party's efforts to involve top businesspeople in the process of government reform both at the state and federal levels."
(love that 'dedication to the Republican Party' part) But which is it? Kovac or Kovar? Hopsicker uses both.
...still looking at the contractor/consultant angle. It's more Funnel, Inc. with them making themselves look good under the guise of "government
reform both at the state and federal levels" and by calling themselves Small Business. It's where the corporate welfare is these days.
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reply posted on 18-4-2006 @ 04:39 PM by Wgatenson
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I found a quarterly financial for SKYWAY COMMUNICATIONS, kinda long, and I don't have the financial background to pull anything out of it. Here it
is for anyone to give it a looksie
sec.freeedgar.com...?SessionID=4lDTIrT8sFwQnzb&ID=2834595
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reply posted on 18-4-2006 @ 04:53 PM by LazarusTheLong
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The gist is this
Skyway is a company that was introducing a air to ground national network of towers, and plane based recievers for use by military, civilian, and
corporate interests...
they would be the AT&T of the airline industry.
They needed massive support to go against the other players in this field (verizon, boeing)
they have connections upon connections to the Suadi and Domestic players of 9-11.
They are promoting that they are the department of homeland securitys connection in the air.
they seem to indicate that they work for the DHS...
They disclose that the bought the DC9 for demo purposes... and to qualify for the FCC testing requirement.
they failed to disclose that it would be used for Drug smuggling... they also failed to disclose that it would look just like a United States
diplomatic flight.
it also seems to have predicted 9-11...
SWYC was founded in 2000 by Mr. Brent Kovar. SWYC’s focus includes in-flight wireless Homeland Security and In-flight Entertainment (IFE) service.
The Company supplies broadband network communications
didnt 9-11 happen in 2001? so why specialize in homeland Security before there was a homeland security branch?
If i was the government, and I wasn't involved in this deal, I would be pissed that it looks so much like it is involved.
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reply posted on 18-4-2006 @ 06:31 PM by LoganCale
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Kovar seems to be the correct last name, as referenced in this
article.
As just one example, Florida's Sky Way Aircraft, a maker of aviation communication systems, issued a glowing announcement last month that its
president, Brent Kovar, has been appointed to the position by DeLay "in recognition of his valuable contributions and dedication to the Republican
Party."
It added that Kovar "is expected to play a crucial role in the party's efforts to involve top businesspeople in the process of government reform
both at the state and federal levels." Identical language is used in the press releases about other honorary chairmen.
Kovar didn't return a call for an update on how his honorary chairmanship is going so far.
And a few other things I discovered that others may have read, but I'll post anyway.
After the events of Sept. 11, some travelers have a new fear of flying. Would you feel better if you knew someone on the ground could help if
something happened? Skyway Aircraft of Florida is working on a system to watch from the ground what is going on in planes. Glenn Kovar and his son,
Brent, both of Skyway Aircraft, have been testing the new system on two executive jets.
"We have nine cameras on the plane. Some of them are hidden, some are in the baggage compartment and that is then sent back to the ground," Brent
Kovar said.
Source
And his father, this Glenn Kovar, is an interesting character. From a 1997 article:
The man behind a St. Petersburg startup that promises to revolutionize satellite communications apparently hasn't always lived up to his
word.
Glenn Kovar, president of Satellite Access Systems, was reportedly fired nine years ago from his job as head of Dunedin's Community Redevelopment
Agency for exaggerating his qualifications to include degrees he did not earn and professional awards he did not win.
Source
And this article, dated one week after the positive press release on the front page (June, 2005) of the Skyway website, says they went bankrupt.
There's nothing but white noise coming from SkyWay Communications Holding Corp.
The publicly traded, former telephone company turned homeland security/in-flight Internet provider filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection June 14,
leaving a long line of creditors, litigation and unhappy shareholders in its wake.
[snip]
In November, citing a series of misleading press releases and disclosure lapses, Talib sued SkyWay and officers Brent Kovar and James Kent in
Arkansas.
"SkyWay intentionally or negligently failed to disclose to plaintiff Talib and his clients that SkyWay did not possess such technology and that it
was simply in the stage of testing to determine whether in fact it could provide such services to commercial airliners at all," the complaint said.
Source
So it sounds like they bought an airplane but never actually did anything. Could it be that they actually are just a front company? It kind of
sounds like it.
Additionally, searches for the tail number on airliners.net bring up several photos of it with interesting notes about who the aircraft was previously
used by. There are several which are probably uninvolved, but others which probably are.
Link.
The final image states the history of the aircraft: Former TWA (N1061T), Tracinda Investment (N241TC), Kenny Rogers (N9KR), Southmark (N89SM), Seattle
Seahawks (N40SH)
And several others, taken in 2002, say it's registered to HW Aviation LLC. Is that the Hilliard-Williams family mentioned in the article that Jeb
Bush is posing with?
That's all for now, I guess, I'll post more as I keep searching.
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reply posted on 18-4-2006 @ 07:06 PM by desert
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excellent reads
The power of the internet--info fast. Too bad ATS was not around in1986, when Bush senior's phone number was in Eugene Hasenfuss's little black
book. And that was FOR Iran back then! This--probably no connection to Delay, other than same bowl of rotten pecans.
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