Originally posted by Englishman_in_Spain
I would say therefore that, whilst your own tastes may not be assuaged by a significant move to the right, there is a groundswell of opinion in the UK
in this direction, which will indeed be borne out by local elections.
- Well we shall see when the polls actually happen.
But whilst I acknowledge there has been a lot of talk - and it is also worth bearing in mind that the other side to people like Rowntree or Margaret
Hodge taking like that is that it may well be deliberate to rouse the apathetic Labour support to come out and vote so that the BNP types do not make
the gains some seem determined to dream of - that is hardly much basis for silly claims about 1 in 4 either.
25% of the public are not BNP supporters.
No matter what wild fantasy you or anyone else may cling to.
......and that is exactly the kind of silly % game I was talking about.
25% (even if it were to happen) in a council / local government poll
with a tiny turnout is not 25% of the general public's support.
BTW the term "shower" was putting it mildly.
Criminal, lying, stupid, thuggish, evil, vicious, violent, abusive, manipulative, anti-democratic, anti-British, in-humane, anti-social, ridiculous,
risible, unoriginal, sad and plain boring are probably more fitting terms for fascists IMO.
.....and anyone believing idiotic garbage like the 'Africans for Essex' story fully merit the term 'cretin' - they can't even see how the BNP is
manipulating and taking the pi*s out of their own so-called 'support'!
How does that one work, hmmmmm?
They claim to be disaffected with 'mainstream parties' but prepared to back one that tells them outright lies of the worst order to get their votes!
in Barking and Dagenham, the BNP claimed that the Labour Party was providing Africans with £50,000 grants to buy houses in the borough. The
'Africans for Essex' story, as it became known, was not challenged by the council and soon became accepted as fact.
Like I said, anyone who knows anything about British politics since the end of WW2 knows that these 'types' pop up from time to time attacking a
few, but mostly worrying people and making a little bit of a scene.
The fascists have had far
greater levels of 'support' in the past.
Think the 1945 - 51 east-end BUF riots;
the 'Adolf's birthday' Trafalgar Sq riot of 1962;
the mid 1960's Racial Preservation Society (RPS), made up of hard-right Tories, senior Whitehall civil servants and military personnel, a few
convicted gangsters and hardline nazis;
the marches and the large-scale strikes in support of Powell in 1968;
the 1970's NF marches.
Derek Beacon and the BNP get a council seat in 1983 in east London.
It never once
turned into anything remotely describable as tangible come general election time.
The fundamental truth is that they are not coming to power in the UK.
Each of the latest 'scares' usually rely on frightening young people and talking themselves up to those who are so young they have little or no
knowledge of what has gone before.
A handful of council seats (out of the thousands contested - and usually held for a single and short term only) do not change that one little bit no
matter how much some want to infer or dream otherwise.
(BTW * mods * shouldn't this be in the UK politics section?)
[edit on 18-4-2006 by sminkeypinkey]