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Should Saddam Hussein Be Executed????

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posted on Apr, 17 2006 @ 09:55 AM
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If saddam and his aid's are convicted they will be sentenced to death. I've watched some of the court room preceding's and how saddam seems to always cause confusion with his constant outburst's.

He may actually succeed in causing a misstrial if that's possible in Iraq, but in anycase his constant ranting seems to be working in his favor. I wonder why you dont see that kind of behavior in US court rooms??

Oh yah, we have contempt of court here. so why dont iraqi courts have contempt charges falling on saddam???

seems like they need some order in the court, if you have seen any of the precedings let me know what constitutes contempt??

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posted on Apr, 17 2006 @ 01:25 PM
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As for the punishment that Saddam should recieve it's really a big decision. If Saddam is executed, that would make him a martyr for the radical muslims. The religion of Islam states if a Muslim dies doing something that goes along the lines of the religion, they are supposedly a hero if they die.
If Saddam dies, he becomes a hero to the Muslim faith.

This is just one reason why Saddam should not be executed.



posted on Apr, 17 2006 @ 02:45 PM
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I think they should turn him lose again. Let him rule Iraq again.



posted on Apr, 17 2006 @ 02:58 PM
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Why execute the patsy double guy anyway? The real Saddam's wife said it isn't him. His face does not match known pictures of Saddam using face scanning, and they have not matched his fingerprints, nor have they done extensive DNA testing. They did some superficial testing, decided it was "close enough," then nothing was heard.

The real Saddam is probably in Switzerland, with plastic surgery done, and lighting his cigars with 100 dollar bills.



posted on Apr, 17 2006 @ 07:31 PM
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Originally posted by SkipShipman
Why execute the patsy double guy anyway? The real Saddam's wife said it isn't him. His face does not match known pictures of Saddam using face scanning, and they have not matched his fingerprints, nor have they done extensive DNA testing. They did some superficial testing, decided it was "close enough," then nothing was heard.

The real Saddam is probably in Switzerland, with plastic surgery done, and lighting his cigars with 100 dollar bills.


if it's not the real saddam then who is it, and are they willing to take the rap for a guy sitting back puffing on stoaggies in sri lanka???

sounds crazy to me but i guess anything is possible when you got people willing to blow themselves up for someone..

wish i had body double to send home to my nagging wife sometimes...


Tea

posted on Apr, 17 2006 @ 07:57 PM
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Originally posted by the_sentinal

Should Saddam Hussein be executed?


IMHO, he shouldn't be executed. We've done enough damage in Iraq without encouraging further barbarism.



posted on Apr, 17 2006 @ 08:03 PM
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His fate at the end of this trial should remain in the hands of the Iraqi people after all they were the ones he hurt. Let justice come from the people he wronged.



posted on Apr, 17 2006 @ 09:16 PM
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Originally posted by gallopinghordes
His fate at the end of this trial should remain in the hands of the Iraqi people after all they were the ones he hurt. Let justice come from the people he wronged.


will the people have a say though ??? how many judges will they go through befor this trial ends .....saddam is already calling for this current judge to step down .....again!!


Tea

posted on Apr, 17 2006 @ 10:08 PM
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Originally posted by the_sentinal

will the people have a say though ??? how many judges will they go through befor this trial ends .....saddam is already calling for this current judge to step down .....again!!


I, too, am wondering when they'll get this circus over with and sentence Hussein. I guess they've never heard of duct tape.



posted on Apr, 17 2006 @ 10:12 PM
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Originally posted by SkipShipman
Why execute the patsy double guy anyway? The real Saddam's wife said it isn't him. His face does not match known pictures of Saddam using face scanning, and they have not matched his fingerprints, nor have they done extensive DNA testing. They did some superficial testing, decided it was "close enough," then nothing was heard.

The real Saddam is probably in Switzerland, with plastic surgery done, and lighting his cigars with 100 dollar bills.


Right... and Republican Guard soldiers have just successfuly fought off a U.S. Marine air/ground assault and defended Baghdad Airport. There is nothing to worry about. Everything is fine. The Americans will be faught back.




posted on Apr, 17 2006 @ 10:20 PM
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Originally posted by Tea

Originally posted by the_sentinal

will the people have a say though ??? how many judges will they go through befor this trial ends .....saddam is already calling for this current judge to step down .....again!!


I, too, am wondering when they'll get this circus over with and sentence Hussein. I guess they've never heard of duct tape.


yes tea, i guess those iraqi's still have alot of fear of saddam, i remember the look on the face of that last judge, while saddam was ranting something about the trial being unlawfull .......

just him saying that would possibly strike fear, in the fact that should the US pull out, the loyalist's of saddam could possibly put him back in power ...

it would have to be in the back of there mind's im sure the people of iraq have seen crazier thing's happen!!



posted on Apr, 17 2006 @ 10:33 PM
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take him to the center of bagdad handcuff him to one of his statues
and let the peolpe be his judge !!!

of the people, by the people, for the people........



posted on Apr, 17 2006 @ 11:21 PM
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Originally posted by spector
take him to the center of bagdad handcuff him to one of his statues
and let the peolpe be his judge !!!

of the people, by the people, for the people........


i guess that would be a vote for execution then right ???



posted on Apr, 17 2006 @ 11:23 PM
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Originally posted by gimmefootball400
As for the punishment that Saddam should recieve it's really a big decision. If Saddam is executed, that would make him a martyr for the radical muslims.

Hussein had a tendency of murdering en mass radical muslims. They're not going to consider him a holy martyr anymore than christians, who have martyrs too, would've considered hitlers execution (if it'd happen) to be martyrdom.


The religion of Islam states if a Muslim dies doing something that goes along the lines of the religion, they are supposedly a hero if they die.

Where does it say this?


The real Saddam's wife said it isn't him

If she didn't want him to die, and knew it wasn't him why would she say that?


The real Saddam is probably in Switzerland, with plastic surgery done, and lighting his cigars with 100 dollar bills.

And this duplicate doesn't even bother to say 'I ain't him godamnit!"??


His fate at the end of this trial should remain in the hands of the Iraqi people

This is an Iraqi court. Its already in their hands.


how many judges will they go through befor this trial ends .....

If he was thrown out on the street in most cities in iraq right now, his victims would proably tear him apart and parade the peices through the streets.



posted on Apr, 18 2006 @ 09:44 PM
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Originally posted by Nygdan


If he was thrown out on the street in most cities in iraq right now, his victims would proably tear him apart and parade the peices through the streets.


i believe that saddam still has a fraction of loyalist's who if he were thrown out on the street would protect him and try to return him to power ...

not that they would succeed by any margin but that they would certainly try, these are the ones who lived in posh luxurious surroundings while doing his evil bidding...they want their old lives back!!

[edit on 18-4-2006 by the_sentinal]



posted on Apr, 18 2006 @ 10:56 PM
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posted by the_sentinal: “If Saddam and his aid's are convicted they will be sentenced to death. [Edited by Don W]


Well, If Iraq wants to join the EU, they will have to suspend the death sentence. Odd, isn’t it? Catholic Church complains Europeans are losing their faith, and have abolished the death penalty. Americans are “finding” their Christianity and just love the death penalty. Hmm?


I've watched some of the court room preceding's and how Saddam seems to always cause confusion with his constant outburst's. He may actually succeed in causing a mistrial if that's possible in Iraq, but in any case his constant ranting seems to be working in his favor. [Edited by Don W]


Not at all. There is no jury in Iraq. Most European countries use the Napoleonic system where the judge tries the case. Outbursts are not likely to influence a judge, whereas you cannot tell how a jury will deal with it.


I wonder why you don’t see that kind of behavior in US court rooms? Oh yah, we have contempt of court here . . “


We have on occasions. Back in the 60s and 70s. Nowadays we would put them in a separate room with tv. Don’t forget our constitution provides a person has a right to face his accusers.


“ . . Seems like they need some order in the court, if you have seen any of the proceedings let me know what constitutes contempt? [Edited by Don W]


There are 2 forms of contempt. Civil contempt and criminal contempt. Criminal contempt is simple. You spit on the judge or pee in the courtroom, that’s criminal contempt. Usually a fine or up to 30 days in jail.

Civil contemp is much harsher. It is a situation where the judge finds or rules you must answer a question and you refuse. As in the NYT’s Judith Miller case. In those cases, you can be held in jail indefinitely or until you “purge” yourself of the contempt, that is, in her case, by answering the question the judge previously ruled you were obliged to answer. NOTE: The Supreme Court has ruled that a person cannot be held indefinitely, but only until it becomes apparent the person is not going to purge the contempt. That could be a very long time.

[edit on 4/18/2006 by donwhite]



posted on Apr, 19 2006 @ 08:56 AM
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i see your vote on no death penalty don, but why is there no jury in iraq ?? i did not notice this when watching the trial footage on TV, guess that would eliminate the possibility of jury rigging but is it fair for the judgement of one man to decide in a case of this magnatude??

a jury to me seems more fair & balanced .....where have i heard that before



posted on Apr, 19 2006 @ 02:11 PM
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posted by the_sentinal: “I see your vote on no death penalty Don, but why is there no jury in Iraq? [Edited by Don W]


It is their way. Under Napoleon, almost all of Europe and many other countries in the West or under Western influence adopted the Napoleonic Code. In America, we adopted the English Common Law. Except Louisiana. It’s mixed French and English due to our Constitution and the manner in which we came to possess it.

European trial judges are specially trained. Not like America. A judge must first be a lawyer, then after a certain time, go back to “Judicial College” where he or she studies to be a judge. Then they are appointed to the post. For a term of years. Judges also serve as prosecutors in that system. That is, they question the witnesses and the defendant. The police actually present the state’s evidence.

I suppose Anglo-Saxon traditions had a great influence on English Common Law. There is no doubt the popular use of “12" jurors comes from the Holy Bible. Our Constitution’s requirement of 2 witnesses for a conviction of treason is straight out of the Old Testament which says, “No one can be stoned to death but on the testimony of 2 or 3 witnesses.” My paraphrase. And, by implication, if there are witnesses giving testimony, there must be a “jury” to decided the outcome. So I think jury trial is also of Old Testament origins. Taking an oath to tell the truth and giving such testimony special credence is also Old Testament.


“ . . is it fair for the judgement of one man to decide in a case of this magnitude? A jury to me seems more fair & balanced . . where have I heard that before?


Native Americans used to provide for a general council of the local tribal unit, to hold a sit-down when a grievance between persons needed to be resolved by the tribe. That resembles a jury trial. But, if you are a Napoleonic Code man, you are happy to let the trained judge do the “dirty” work.



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